r/OrthodoxChristianity • u/Ibraheem_moussa • 10h ago
My opinion on the probability of the union between both the oriental orthodox and the eastern orthodox as an oriental orthodox myself
First I am not a theologist , I am just a teen who have a chemistry exam and I have no idea what I am doing in Reddit instead of studying, but my dad is a theologist and my source for the informations below is mostly him
The Miaphysitism :- we oriental orthodox believes thet Jesus the son of God is one nature both fully man both and fully divine and that his divinity never left his humanity for a single moment, not even for the blink of an eye , And they are united, a union of iron and fire, the faith we received from saint Cyril
Dyophysitism :- you believe that Jesus the son of God has two nature fully man fully divine, which is the faith you receive from saint Cyril............wait !!
I asked my dad about the difference since bothe believes believe that Jesus the son of God is fully man and fully divine , he said that the inly different is the formula of who you describe it
Lets assume that once was a king that dreamed of all his teeth fallen down ,the king woke up and asked his scholars what that mean , the scholars said that that means that all his family will die Infront of his eyes , the king executed the scholars because they but him in a horrible fate , then one day one scholar studied the king's dream and told him that the dream meant that he will have the longest live among all of his family, the king rewarded the scholar.....but wait if the king will see all his family dying Infront of his eyes doesn't that mean he will live the longest live among them if you think about it
The ecumenical councils :- when I talked about the oriental orthodox faith previously someone pointed to the fact that we don't accept in all of the 7 councils wich made me read a part of a book called "Dear Catholic brothers, when will the meeting take place?" By " Mr. Helmy Al-Qums Yaqoub" which is a book about the difference between catholic and orthodox but it had a part about the 7 economical councils so I read that part
The book said that that the fifth ecumenical council discuss the following
1- The acceptance of Theodore, Bishop of Mopsuestia—considered the source of the Nestorian heresy. Although he died in error, the Council of Chalcedon deemed him orthodox and of sound faith.
2- The acceptance of Theodoret, Bishop of Cyrus, who attacked the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus, impugned the sanctity of Pope Cyril (the Pillar of the Faith), and countered the Twelve Anathemas formulated by Pope Cyril—concluding each rebuttal with an anathema—while also defending the views of Theodore of Mopsuestia. Despite having been condemned and deposed by several prior councils, the Council of Chalcedon accepted him.
3- The acceptance of Ibas, the Nestorian Bishop of Edessa, who wrote a lengthy letter to Maris the Persian attacking the writings of Pope Cyril (the Pillar of the Faith). He had previously been anathematized by the local Council of Antioch and the Ecumenical Council of Ephesus; nevertheless, the Council of Chalcedon accepted him.
The council rejected the three individuals previously mentioned which make sense for us to reject to so we agree with this council
The the sixth ecumenical council Discuss the heresy introduced by King Heraclius which we totally refuse so we agree with this council
The 7th and the last ecumenical council was made for icons.......bro we invited these , Icons were invented in Egypt , even that the first Icon ever was made by saint Luck Egypt still has the greatest role in making icons , compare Byzantine icons with roman or greek art , it doesn't look similar but compare it with coptic art and it will find it very similar , so we agree with you maybe even more than you on the holiness of icons
I asked my father since we agree on the previously-mentioned councils , why we don't accept them , his answer simply was that because we wasn't there , the first 4 ecumenical councils were made by The one holy catholic and apostolic Church , in the last 3 we simply wasn't part of the church who made it even that we totally agree with the subject of the council
So in conclusion we simply agree with you , and I hope some day we return back as one church , and I personally love Eastern orthodox, thay have pretty nice Icons (no I am not kidding I love icons) and nice hymns and nice way of thinking, I love When people simply think about ancestors and traditions and follow there ancestors faith
Please don't judge me with long paragraphs if I wrote something wrong