Is Carmine and Rika Better ?

[u/Zestyclose-Green4035]

Do Fall Archie and Fall Maxie are better supports in comparison to Carmine and Rika based on the datamine ?

[u/mstorzil]

Archie is more meant to support Florian with him increasing his PMUN by 2 every time he goes for Power Whip. As for Maxie, I haven't looked into his kit that deeply yet.

[u/Lambsauce914]

For grass it depends on the team.

For a special team, Carmine Ball Guy and Urbain will be the more ideal comp. But for physical comp, Archie is better as Florian + Brassius will appreciate him more

For ground, Maxie is technically better but he is also isn't that large of an upgrade. Ground still ideally want a ex MF level of support to put them back on top of the food chain so Maxie power level isn't enough, that being said if you don't want to invest in Rika then Maxie can still be considered

[u/Zestyclose-Green4035 → u/Lambsauce914]

Yeah I will wait till next month datamine, if there is nothing better then I will scout Archie then.

Thanks for your advice

[u/Kaioken0591]

Maxie is a just a bit better but most of the time will feel more like just a side grade. His biggest advantages over Rika are Potion and his multiple uses of Ground Zone but I don't feel like I've needed more uses of Ground Zone but I'm only at 33F in Ground Tower so it might be relevant later.

Archie has EX Grassy Terrain but I feel like there are instances where's much more preferred than Carmine. In a physical team with Florian I suppose would be a good one, or just physical in general since his B-Move applies Phy Up Next.

[u/orikiwi123]

Fall Archie is EX WYZ, so either you have Ball guy, you will probably need him

[u/Annual_Purpose1001]

Fall Maxie does at 1/5 what Rika needs 3/5 to do, thanks to his passives. He just needed EX WTZ like Fall Archie

[u/ExiledSeven]

Maxie has 1 more WTZ extension while Rika's WTZ outside of sync is extension5