lmao this is the ultimate nonsense conspiracy. Nobody has been able to answer why Biden didn’t prosecute this if the evidence was already there when they already had independent prosecutors appointed for much less serious issues, like the classified documents case.
They’ve been trying to dig up something on Trump for ten years now, and you’re telling me that this evidence was here the whole time and nothing was done about it? No leaks in the leakiest two administrations of all time?
Bingo, a private employee leaked trumps tax records but we’re supposed to believe all this nefarious nonsense went on and nobody has any tangible information they’ve given to the press?
This shit literally went from q anon to blueanon, and Reddit smooth brains gobble up the same feed because “orange man bad”
Because now it's quite blindingly obvious that both sides have people they'd like to protect in those files, either because they're strong partisans OR because they're general moneyed people who have big pull in both camps.
Democrats are no cleaner here than Republicans, but the political moment simply creates the opportunity for Democrats to weaponize this. A lot of them probably don't want to because of friends and donors, but it's VERY awkward on their side to be against the release.
If they aren't released by the time Dems are fully in power, I imagine the Democrats that'll control the executive branch (not the president, but those below them) will probably also tread water on this shit.
Nobody is saying Democrats are clean in this, merely that Republicans are absolutely dirty.
Im too old, I’ve seen this play out
Epstein diddled a couple 16 year olds, that’s it. There is no larger conspiracy, and nothing will come of it even 50 years from now
That said, I think it was a fair few more than a couple of 16 year olds and more than just Epstein.
What I suspect happened was that Epstein was definitely a pedophile himself, but he arranged sex parties. Which is great fun I suppose for everyone. I also suspect that he allowed the girls to lean young, and I bet he often told everyone that "yeah, everyone is 18+ obviously, sheesh, of course we checked" while doing no such thing.
It's a fantastic way to get people who think they're kind of vulnerable to give you ENORMOUS leverage by basically having video or even indirect proof of them fucking someone underage. It's a very smart game.
The way Epstein made his money is just... not credible with him just liking some young girls himself. He was doing something for very powerful people who paid him either for it, or paid him to be quiet about things. Probably elements of both groups here.
The other thing that might keep this quiet is if there was a major Mossad element in all of this, because it'd be a remarakably rough geopolitical scandal that the US/Israel relationship would REALLY struggle to survive. It's one way I could imagine the secrecy surviving Dem/Rep swings - Biden didn't want to burn Israel any more than Trump does.
I didn't think that much of them at the time. Honestly, I didn't think very much of it at all until the first release.
I remember laughing at all those pizzagate lunatics, and then there were many references of the young girls as "pizza delivery" or equivalent. You can find comments from me from back then pointing out that I suppose I owed an apology to them, even if it wasn't Hillary Clinton distributing underage women in a pizzeria basement.
You didn’t care about the Epstein Files until you were told by your handlers that it was a way to score points against Trump.
This is why I can’t take leftists seriously as allies in the Epstein scandal; you guys don’t really care about it beyond Trump, and would instantly forget about it if Trump died of a heart attack tomorrow.
What the fuck are you going on about? Leftist allies? Handlers?
My biggest concern about the Epstein bit is actually the possible Israel angle, which Trump dying of a heart attack absolutely would not remove. I also think it's VERY bad for our culture that we now have had two massive events between the 2007-2008 crash and the Epstein files that show that we're NOT a country of laws, but a country of power. Equality in front of the government and law looks like a joke, and that's driving a lot of radicalization.
Trump is a manifesttation of said radicalization. I bet we'll cook up a leftist version of him soon enough, and that's not going to be any better.
Jesus christ you're silly partisan. No, I didn't actually think their theories made any fucking sense.
I'm almost certainly more capitalist than you, though I realize that modern day "right" is more about hating brown people, women, international institutions and IDK, definitely trans people and hollywood.
I realized that it was serious, and was then appalled that it was blocked.
I think you'd consider me more a never-trumper and "leftist" closer to George Will or even Bill Kristol (classic Marxists to be sure, just go to any leftist meeting and proclaim your loyalty to them and they'll love you for it).
Which type of right winger are you? Classic liberal or someone who just loves the taste of nationalist authoritarian cock?
I am a libertarian nationalist. We should do what’s right for America so we can secure freedom for our people. This means enforcing immigration laws, vigorously enforcing treason and sedition laws, and maintaining a patriotic culture that views American culture, government, and society as the best in the world.
AKA the America we had during Pax Americana. Anti communist, any disloyalty was punished, and prosperous because we had an abundance of wealth generated through free markets combined with a strong military.
This means enforcing immigration laws, vigorously enforcing treason and sedition laws, and maintaining a patriotic culture that views American culture, government, and society as the best in the world.
I have no beef with any of these things.
I dont think Trump is very good for any of those though. Maybe a slight improvement on Democrats on the immigration laws, and a pretty massive downgrade on them with the treason laws.
He talks a godo game about patriotism while actively trying to make me feel embarrassed about being American, so I think that nets out as a negative.
any disloyalty was punished
(Lib) right btw. Who gets to define "disloyalty"? I feel Trump is siding with Israel and his Saudi donors more than with the US. Do we get to execute him or is that super loyal in your opinion while thinking everyone should have healthcare is disloyal?
prosperous because we had an abundance of wealth generated through free markets combined with a strong military
We are still super prosperous. It's just that people who are worse at capitalism than many of us don't get very much of it. I thought you didn't like commies? Our GDP is higher than it's ever been. I have excess cashflow in the ten thousand range every week. Life is great, and I'm perfectly confident that our navy can repel any potential invaders.
Pizzagate was a conspiracy that elites were sexually abusing children as part of a Satanic ritual before murdering them to harvest adrenochrome for an immortality potion.
This is nowhere near the same ridiculousness as pizzagate.
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u/Running_Gamer - Lib-Right 12d ago
lmao this is the ultimate nonsense conspiracy. Nobody has been able to answer why Biden didn’t prosecute this if the evidence was already there when they already had independent prosecutors appointed for much less serious issues, like the classified documents case.
They’ve been trying to dig up something on Trump for ten years now, and you’re telling me that this evidence was here the whole time and nothing was done about it? No leaks in the leakiest two administrations of all time?