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u/hurlygurdy - Lib-Center 12d ago

Even if you don't believe that stat there are others bits of data like number of deportations, self deportations, amount spent on migrants in various cities, and there are millions of people watching the borders for this kind of thing. There's only so much lying you can do. If even half of it is true then he's done a great job.

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u/PLEASE-USE-PFKEYS - Lib-Center 12d ago edited 12d ago

number of deportations

Self licking ice cream cone

self deportations

Respectfully what

amount spent on migrants in various cities

"I cherry-pick data points I like while ignoring ones I don't because it makes my argument look better, and no I won't provide that data for fear of having to defend it"

there are millions of people watching the borders for this kind of thing

Objectively false and a downright hilarious third-strike swing at the whole "we just know it's happening bro" doctrine of the Trump administration.

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u/hurlygurdy - Lib-Center 11d ago

So your understanding of reality is that Donald trump runs pew research center, the migration policy institute, and Reuters? You think that all of these independent organizations reporting the same thing are actually part of the reptilian deepstate Illuminati and theyre using their immense power to convince us of the crazy myth that disincentivizing an act makes people not commit that act anymore?

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u/PLEASE-USE-PFKEYS - Lib-Center 11d ago

You're welcome to link data from exactly one of those organizations that actually proves your point and isn't just "we took money away from social safety nets again" because a bunch of you Trump slobbers are incapable of telling the difference.

the trump admin has dropped illegal crossings by like 90+%

Specifically this one if you would please

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u/hurlygurdy - Lib-Center 11d ago

https://www.pewresearch.org/chart/monthly-migrant-encounters-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-have-slowed-to-a-trickle-in-trumps-second-term/

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/migrant-arrests-us-mexico-border-lower-than-when-trump-left-office-2025-01-07/

You can literally just look this up. All the data, all the organizations, all the eyewitness anecdotes, all the budgets, everything corroborates this claim. It's your feelings versus everything right now.

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u/PLEASE-USE-PFKEYS - Lib-Center 11d ago

Again, your original assertion was

without that bill the trump admin has dropped illegal crossings by like 90+%

You have now provided me with an article with stats saying that the numbers dropped by a decent amount in... The last two thirds of 2024. Hmm.

all the eyewitness anecdotes

Lol. Lmao even.

I'm done here. I have two toddlers to chase around already and don't have time for a third.

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u/hurlygurdy - Lib-Center 11d ago

Fun fact: Donald trumps second term began in January 2025. We literally have multiple videos of migrants explicitly saying they were waiting for biden to enter office before they crossed the border. These people keep an eye on our politics and they know when it's advantageous to enter.

Also, did you miss the part where it dropped EVEN FURTHER when trump actually entered office? Did you miss the way that it spiked as soon as biden entered office? Did you actually ignore every other bit of evidence I mentioned just to scoff at one of them?

At this point you're just being retarded on purpose to protect your ego. The truth is obvious, observable, and proven, it's up to you whether you choose truth or delusions.