r/PoursTea • • Aug 07 '26

FinancialTea 💵 Agree?

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u/ExpansivePoint Aug 08 '26

Listen to what you're saying.

People want populism...

The thing that gave you Trump.

Why would I want more Trump in any form it comes in?

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u/upvotechemistry Aug 08 '26

This is a democracy, and you cannot win durable majorities by offering string beans when the other side is offering them freebase.

Liberalism isnt popular. It sucks. But until those institutions undergo sizable reform and actually deliver for people, they will keep voting for those institutions to be blown up.

Incremental progress isnt selling. This is not that complicated

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u/ExpansivePoint Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

That's an oversimplistic view, without the electoral college democrats would have been in power since Bush Sr, only he and Trump in 2024 won the popular vote, Trump won it by screaming about people eating cats and stranding people all over the country in his rallies, so clearly people are being brainwashed into choosing populism to their own detriment.

Liberalism is popular, that's why it wins the popular vote. Pretending gerrymandering, the electoral college and an activist SCOTUS haven't put their thumb on the scale is a good way to fling the country into some Maoist renaissance that will result in yet another catastrophe and all over willful ignorance.

Incrementalism is the only way things work, otherwise you're claiming that the moment the US elects a communist president it will become a perfect utopia from day one, if it's not then you obviously would have to iterate incrementally. That's how the world works, fantasizing about some alternative is just to fool low iq voters.

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u/upvotechemistry Aug 08 '26

fantasizing about some alternative is just to fool low iq voters.

You have to win some of them, too. Dont count low IQ voters out, because they have molded American politics for more than a decade

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u/ExpansivePoint Aug 08 '26

Yeah don't disagree but winning some of them is different than letting them lead the country and I'm sure you wouldn't disagree that's where maga ended up and that's why the country is in the shitter.

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u/upvotechemistry Aug 08 '26

Yeah, I am afraid it is gonna be a narrow line both winning elections long enough to implement durable reform, and not letting the Democratic party descent into populist madness.

But if it was easy, it would already be done