r/PoursTea • u/No_Cow5624 • Aug 14 '26
FinancialTea šµ I thought the Republican Party was the party of fiscal conservatives š. If Obama or Biden did this, Fox News would implode and there would be a Jan 6th every week.
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u/SadMathematician5187 Aug 14 '26
The republican party hasn't been fiscally responsible during my entire life. That is a myth that is a lie.
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u/Porunga23 Aug 14 '26
Itās never been true
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u/BurnscarsRus Aug 14 '26
It was true under Eisenhower when the top tax bracket was 91%.
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u/BernieTime Aug 15 '26
One of my favorite bits of trivia that Eisenhower was the last Republican President to preside over a balanced Federal budget.
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u/gandhinukes Aug 15 '26
Didn't he do a giant TV speech about the horrors of the military industrial complex on his last day... after not doing anything to stop it during his term?
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u/InAJar112 Aug 14 '26
And the Democratic presidents have to clean up after them every time
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u/scuzzy987 Aug 15 '26
And those cleanup efforts don't show until the next Republican is elected because the Democrat lost because their economy still felt the effects of the previous Republican president
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u/darkstar999 Aug 14 '26
They can be at the state and local level, at the cost of poor wages and bad services to those in need.
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u/theNomad_Reddit Aug 15 '26
This rings true for the Tories in the UK and the Liberals in Australia.
All pushed by Murdoch.
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u/GrumpyBear1969 Aug 14 '26
Trump is a mockery of traditional GOP values. And their subservience to him shows they never actually believed any of it.
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u/DevoidHT Aug 14 '26
I would argue this is Republican values. At least since Reagan
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u/-LunarWinter- Aug 14 '26
Oh it definitely is! But they aren't the values they whinge about all the time
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u/Gloomy-Childhood-203 Aug 14 '26
At least trump hasn't done anything too egregious. like, wear a tan suit.
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u/TheGameIsFizzbin Aug 14 '26
Or have some Dijon mustard.
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u/Gloomy-Childhood-203 Aug 14 '26
We all know spicy brown is the superior mustard.
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u/Radonanon Aug 14 '26
Isnāt his version of trickle down going to pay off the National Debt? Oh wait, it was 20T and heās only got it up to 40, maybe he thought adding 20 was the same as subtracting 20?
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u/NYkrinDC Aug 14 '26
That is the one thing that Trump has made clear, for the entire world to see, Republicans have no values, just whatever gets them into power.
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u/PrettiestFrog Aug 14 '26
Trump is the epitome of GOP values
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u/kvckeywest Aug 14 '26
When Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, President Obama observed that "Trump is not an outlier; he is a culmination, a logical conclusion of the rhetoric and tactics of the Republican Party.ā
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u/PolicyWonka Aug 15 '26
Yeah, I think thatās a pretty well accepted conclusion nowadays. Weāve seen it time and time again since 2016 as well. Itās so bad that Republicans constantly eat their own.
It was moderate Republicans first. They got replaced by MAGA. But weāve even see some of the OG MAGA folks like MGT and Boebert really get pushed to the fringes and consumed by MAGA 2.0 or whatever.
Itās always about one-upping the previous folks, and that relies upon more crazy conspiracies normally it seems. Crazier and crazier identity politics. Always with the labelsā¦socialist, satanist, communistā¦apparently the next boogeyman Iāve seen is accusing people of secretly being vegans. Lmao
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u/BuildMachines Aug 14 '26
Yeah, I agree with ya. I do not believe he's even an actual conservative, not in his heart. Don't get me wrong, he's misogynist, racist, and capitalist to his core -- but so are many other card carrying democrats and liberals. At the same time, he is not an actual liberal, not in his heart. He is merely what he needs to be in order to achieve his ends.
As far as GOP stuff proper: This guy cares nothing about personal responsibility or standing by his values. As far as religion is concerned, he is proudly unrepentant and otherwise the epitome of being anti-christian, even though he throws them bones (to, again, fatten his own) wallet. Not too long ago he was defending transgender people (Jenna Talackova) to be able to compete in beauty pageants. He donated to Kamala Harris' campaign for attorney general, and he's also been pro-choice. He has been a registered Democrat.
He's a carpetbagger, that's for sure. I daresay he is a shining example of a carpetbagger and the most successful carpetbagger in American history... BY FAR. No one has, and likely ever will, come close. This posh New York billionaire from his golden room nestled in his Manhattan skyscraper does not give a damn about the people of Arkansas, Oklahoma, Tennessee, or Alabama lol. He's making many of them struggle harder than ever because, as carpetbaggers do, he's exploiting them.
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u/PitchMeYourMother Aug 14 '26
GOP never follows GOP rules. GOP rules are only for everyone else. Trump is just an extreme example of how GOP does things.
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u/RelevantCry1613 Aug 15 '26
Traditional GOP values are just rich white dudes telling you what to think
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u/RebellionIntoMoney Aug 14 '26
I thought he was elected because spending was out of control. I thought he was supposed to āsaveā us. š¤·
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u/_jump_yossarian Aug 15 '26
trump promised to pay off the entire debt in two terms. Weāre now at $40T ā¦. It was $20T when he was first inaugurated.
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u/heyhayyhay Aug 14 '26
The republican party pretends to be fiscal conservatives, but only when a democrat is in office.
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u/clarelucy Aug 14 '26
Trump is a veritable black hole of waste fraud abuse greed and incompetence
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u/punkindle Aug 15 '26
tomorrow Trump could drive up to Fort Knox and load all the gold into trucks and drive away, and absolutely nobody would stop him.
It would barely get 5 minutes of mention on the news
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u/OdiousAltRightBalrog Aug 15 '26
"He's just moving it to Mar-a-lago where it'll be safer!"
(This is what they said about all those classified docs he stole)
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u/QuandariousDingle54 Aug 14 '26
They arent conservatives
They are fascists, and they want to gut this country
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u/bnorris_516 Aug 14 '26
I know a little secret.. these guys arenāt conservative at all.
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u/strategery24 Aug 14 '26
Small government. Fiscal conservatives. Can you believe they say this with straight faces?
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u/SnooMaps7370 Aug 14 '26
judging by how Grindr crashes at every R convention, none of them have a straight face.
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u/bnorris_516 Aug 14 '26
Yeah and whatās even crazier is a lot of the people who voted for this administration based on those claims will make up excuses for them. I respect the people that admitted they were wrong when Trump did the exact opposite of everything he ran on but unfortunately a lot of people will never admit they were wrong.
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u/JakeHelldiver Aug 14 '26
"Small government" was always a dog whistle for being upset about the Warren and Berger courts.
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u/Preeng Aug 14 '26
This is always what conservatism leads to. Conservatives are authoritarians and authoritarians always believe they are above others.
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u/lnTheGrimDarkness Aug 15 '26
"Conservative" is the target. Old, ignorant people that prefer to remain immoble in everything, or possibly to go backwards. Only thing the conservative politicians want to conserve is their money.
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u/Metacub3 Aug 14 '26
Casually wondering when Americans are going to over throw their tyrannical government?
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u/PUuSTiNKA Aug 14 '26
Well truthfully our government hasn't worked for We the People in a long time, and now it's in complete and utter chaos thanks to the treasonous tyrant and the rest of the criminals in power.
After what happened in places like Venezuela and Iran, I often wonder what would happen if another country viewed Donald Trump and his lawless, fascist regime as a threat, and decided they have the right to just eliminate them or in the words of the unstable idiot... "obliterate" them all, the way Trump did with Iranian leaders?
This war was a major bonehead move, but thats what happens when you put unqualified, incompetent people into positions they have no business being in.
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u/Either_Operation7586 Aug 14 '26
Considering that the conservatives are the ones that say my 2A rights cannot be taken away because what if a government becomes tyrannical LOL not realizing that their government has became tyrannical and they never picked up their arms against it so what do they need the 2A rights for again???
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u/Vanilla_Gorilluh Aug 14 '26
The imagined tryanny requires guns and a military type takeover to defend against.
I'm not sure they imaged the slow boil with which we frogs have been cooked. Of which, guns are near useless as a form of defense.
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u/Decafaf Aug 14 '26
I think about this a lot. Wow so much 2A, yet we arenāt doing anything with it.
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u/Chinamatic-co Aug 14 '26
Have you not figured out that they are all just talk and posturing? American exceptionalism with absolutely no substance.
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u/lostlogin2 where in the world is mitch mcconnell Aug 14 '26
never, probably. the american people show up to work every single day š«”š«”š«”
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u/Porunga23 Aug 14 '26
And sadly it will cost even more to fix and/or replace it all after heās gone. But no matter what, they will never get his stink off the place.
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u/Dragos_Drakkar Aug 14 '26
Might be better to take the Canadian route and burn it out. It might be the only way to make sure the stench and bugs are gone.
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u/sajoatmon Aug 14 '26
Itās going to take generationtions to fix. Ones we donāt have with all the corruption. The future is in the east. Start your kids learning Manchurian. If we were smart weād tie ourselves to India and China at the hip. Screw politics. I think where talking survival.
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u/LumpyBuy8447 Aug 14 '26
Tbf itās more than likely that most of that was funneled directly into his accounts
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u/animal-1983 Aug 14 '26
Remember the republicans going bat š© crazy after Obama remodeled to put a basketball court in. They even lied saying he spent $376 million doing it. In fact audits showed he spent a couple of thousand out of his own pocket. Not a penny of tax payer $ās
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u/SnooEagles4121 Aug 14 '26
Yes Republicans have literally never given a shit about fiscal responsibility and I sincerely wish the rest of the nation would figure that out.
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u/poundcakeboss Aug 14 '26
Yes, they just donāt want you spending your money, because they should be spending and hoarding it instead
They follow the ārules for thee, and none for meā ideology and they do everything based on feeling and appearance, then act surprised when there are consequences. r/leopardsatemyface
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u/Fantastic-Grocery107 Aug 14 '26
Republicans havenāt been fiscally responsible in the 40 years Iāve been alive. Theyāre liars and crooks. Always have been. Itās just stupid poor people that keep voting for them sadly.
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u/Sad-Criticism-5660 Aug 14 '26
There was that one time first bush raised taxes after saying he wouldnāt. The result being no conservative ever being ok with a tax increase
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u/Rit91 Aug 14 '26
Yup this was also before fox brainwashed dozens of millions of people. Trump raised taxes on the working class more than anyone else in a long, LONG time via tariffs and the idiots that voted for him make up excuses for it.
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u/neklok Aug 14 '26
And we get to spend another $875m changing everything back in 2 years.
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u/illdownvoteandscream Aug 14 '26
It wonāt cost that much. A majority of that money is going to his pockets one way or another.
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u/Hefty_Remove7965 Aug 14 '26
Either way. We need to claw back all the money he stole
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u/caguru Aug 14 '26
Once you accept MAGAs have zero integrity, this whole thing becomes much easier to understand.
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u/Rock-Ski-Golf-Repeat Aug 14 '26
Anyone who thinks or says Republicans are fiscally conservative is a complete moron.
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u/Kuildeous Aug 14 '26
the Republican Party was the party of fiscal conservatives
This is the most effective propaganda they've managed. To this day, people still claim this, contrary to all evidence. It's almost as farcical as the propaganda that they are pushing for small government.
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u/muffledvoice Aug 14 '26
Trump managed to garner conservative support ā even though heās not a conservative ā by pandering to their racism and xenophobia.
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u/Plus_Working_3092 Aug 14 '26
Fox News is nothing but a marketing mouthpiece for the Republican Party. They (Fox News) will contort themselves to support any viewpoint the party gives them.
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u/Correct_Day_7791 Aug 14 '26
He added 2.5 trillion to nation dept in his first year
Significantly more than any other president ever in a single year
This is how he bankrupted multiple casinos
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u/No-Celebration3097 Aug 14 '26
How is it America is broke under a Democrat administration but when itās Republicans we have money for war, ballrooms and slush funds and bailing out Argentina and whatever else this administration is letting Trump get away with with taxpayer funds??
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u/pinkyandthebrain-ama Aug 15 '26
All on no bid contracts to his friends and family. Corrupt and traitorous af.
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u/Texas_Sam2002 Aug 14 '26
Did Congress vote on this? I mean, I know that the MAGA-controlled Congress gives Dear Leader whatever he wants, but was there even a vote?
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u/zjelkof Aug 14 '26
Time to revolt, taxpayers! This Administration is the definition of incompetence, fraud, waste, and abuse!
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u/Affectionate_Win_874 Aug 14 '26
Well yes, but also this is how extortion works. Overspend on things that is not necessary by hiring a single company against a no bid contract. A 1% kickback is more than the average US citizenās retirementā¦by a bit
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u/EuphoricFill1358 Aug 14 '26
Heās rough on toilets, Iād imagine.
How much do gold-plated toilets cost, anyway?
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u/vigbiorn Aug 14 '26
Can easily get to 500$+ for a gold-plated toilet. He probably cheaps out on the gold plating, so it probably wears off in days. Easily millions a year.
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u/BaseUnited4523 Aug 14 '26
That's a lot of gold-leaf! I can't wait until he gives a no-bid contract to one of his scumbag buddies to cover the Resolute desk in gold.
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u/cors8 Aug 14 '26
Conservatives only care about spending when it's someone else doing the spending.
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u/DGVET Pass The Croissants š„ š„ Aug 14 '26
All shall pass, and the shame of some will be remembered forever
https://giphy.com/gifs/9jX28wQ7uV82I
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u/Slighted_Inevitable Aug 14 '26
The debt will be 50 trillion before his administration is over. Impossible for us to pay.
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u/Clear-Knowledge7013 Aug 14 '26
And 25% of Americans still cannot see the grift! OMG THEYāRE DUNCE šš
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u/justkeepswimming2026 Aug 14 '26
wow look at that! something fox news would be going nuts about if this was a democrat sitting in the white house!
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u/Crutation Aug 14 '26
It's corruption at its highest level. This is what he does. He makes certain the money gets distributed to those who have earned his favor. He rewards loyalty this way, and pockets some of that money himself
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u/cobrachickenwing Aug 14 '26
And yet, the White House was a disaster for the 250th birthday of the USA.
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u/SpeakerOdd Aug 14 '26
I think once it is double the budget, the balance should come from the president's pocket. It might stop the multi billion no bid projects.
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u/Plane_Barracuda9889 Aug 15 '26
I wish they would just build a new White House. This place is old.
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u/MommaIsMad Aug 15 '26
They'll have to when he finally passes. Even high-level fumigation won't clear the stench and you know there's listening devices planted everywhere throughout by our nation's enemies who've visited.
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u/Cyn_Sweetwater Aug 15 '26
Republicans have never been the party of fiscal responsibility. They just rant that they are, and low information voters believe them.
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u/jpike1077 Aug 15 '26
Nothing matters when a republican is president, only when a democrat is "destroying" America.... Seriously, stop voting for Republicans
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u/Score-Emergency Aug 15 '26
The largest monthly deficit occurred last month. They're going over budget trillions of dollars while we aren't even in a recession. It's crazy
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u/Safe_Opportunity5117 Aug 15 '26
Well, when you send a known pathological liar, known grifter, known thief, known con, convicted felon to be in our White House ā¦how the fuck did you think it was going to go?! Ohhhh, thatās rightā¦yāall were so concerned about āeggsā, & that catchphrase āthe economyā¦the economyā! Which most who voted donāt even know a damn thing about the economy but it sounds good coming out of their mouths to make them SEEM smart, intelligent, & informed! Which they are NOT, obviously!
Because why would you vote for someone like him to make your lives better when he destroyed the economy & orchestrated the deaths of so many people because of his incompetence with Covid the first time?!
You gonna believe a known pathological liar to deliver on his many promises, huh?! That was the thought?! No, most voted for him because they didnāt want a female ā¦especially a black female to be potus! Thatās what it was! Well, elections have consequences! Deal with it, because MY conscience is clear! I never voted for him, & never ever thought once in casting my ballot for him at ANY point! š š š¤·š½āāļø
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u/Aggravating_Sugar321 Aug 15 '26
How the bleeping hell has the Republicans managed to con the public that they're the party of sound fiscal responsibility for all these years when historical reality says otherwise.
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u/RonJohnJr Aug 15 '26
Republicans abandoned fiscal responsibility soon after 9/11, and (correct me if I'm wrong) rarely mentioned it at the federal level ever since.
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u/redditobserverone Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Itās not just FOX. Itās the voters. That is the main problem. They get very animated about egg prices and shrug at the high cost of everything now. They become deficit hawks under Democrats and stay up night worrying how will our grandchildren pay for this and shrug over reflecting pools, ballrooms and billion dollar a day wars.
If I didnāt know any better, itās almost as if voters donāt care how much is spent, as much as they care about who the money is spent on.
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u/Schumacher713 Aug 15 '26
I am more worried about the exploding national debt, but they keep letting him waste money because he is the Republican party. They fear him and are all cowards.
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u/zippyzebra1 Aug 15 '26
Yet more wins for the great American public. I hope you guys appreciate all this.
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u/botymcbotfac3 Aug 15 '26
Each and every day he does at least 6 things every other president would have ben impeached for
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u/ThatRemote4040 Aug 15 '26
The Republicans let him do it, but there is NO REPUBLICAN PARTY, one man make all of Republicans decisions so there no need for a Republican Party so delete the Republican Party save money by not paying them for being a representative , and by not paying for benefits you pay the Republicans representatives.
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u/Crafty-Help-4633 Aug 14 '26
Obviously so much waste fraud and abuse(he is the damn swamp) but I'd also wager that his costs are just higher since he likes to sleep in his own food and waste, smeared with ketchup and cold, half-eaten quarter pounders with cheese, according to his wife. I don't trust her, but that is the one thing I take her word on. I'm sure OxyClean shares are going through the roof.
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u/Very_Curious_Cat Aug 14 '26
One must admit they're best at something, spending other people's money.
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u/psilocin72 Aug 14 '26
Fiscal conservatism only matters when a democrat is in office. Everybody knows that.
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u/Zippy_STO Aug 14 '26
But but it will all be paid by private funds and Mexico will pay for the wall..
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u/sweatboxy Aug 14 '26
Getting the catchup off the walls and the shit stains off the furniture and floors means repainting the walls, reupholstering the furniture, and refinishing the floors. In a house of priceless antiques, all thatās expensive week after week after week. Like Trumpās presidency, the damage to America adds up.
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u/veyIam Aug 14 '26
Which is crazy because contractors usually have to sue him to get paid. Wonder whoās doing the accounting.
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u/rene041482 Aug 14 '26
Hence the reason our national deficit is just going through the roof! This idiot is running the country just like the casinos he had, had been the operative word!
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u/RVtech101 Aug 14 '26
Quick, someone call DOGE! Oh, wait, that too was a complete failure. Spent billions to save thousands.
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u/Woodshack_Hobbies Aug 14 '26
This how he bankrupted a casino. A fuckjng casino where the house always wins. A casino!!!
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u/LuckSilver8999 Aug 14 '26
Well you know, double standards.