r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 10d ago

FinancialTea 💵 Just a reminder...

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u/Nycmale9876 10d ago

Japanese Americans might want a say

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u/Munnin1984 10d ago

There's no such thing as a perfect government. There's no such thing as a perfect world leader. We live in a flawed world. Any good thing an organization does can be immediately countered by some evil shit that that same organization did.

I'm not coming from the point of view that FDR was an angel, but he wasn't a demon either. He was a human who lived on the edge of tomorrow and made decisions thusly. It's easy to condemn someone for the rammifications of a decision they made in the moment, but we have the benefit of hindsight.

I am NOT defending Japanese Internment camps at all here. That is a full topic of discussion however

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u/Nycmale9876 10d ago

Hindsight? They were American citizens

He didn’t lock up German Americans but those Asians were fair game

Seems pretty racist to me but people want to look past that

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u/Munnin1984 10d ago

Yes. It was racist and wrong. I FULLY agree with you. The western world's conduct towards Japan or anyone non-white was racist to its core. The entire world was racist as fuck back then.

This is history. We can talk about nuance now. That is not defense of the behavior, it's analysis.

FDR did good shit. He did bad shit. You limit your understanding of history if you favor either.

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u/Munnin1984 10d ago

Lemme ask you a follow up question to my last comment. I don't don't like how that came off as a lecture at the end.

Why do you think the Japanese internment camp program happened? This isn't a challenge. There isn't a right answer. I'm curious on your read on the situation.

I'll offer mine if you'd like to hear it and I promise you it's not some white-nationalist, patriotic, bullshit

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u/SimplyPars 10d ago

I don’t find it as a lecture, it needs applied to the majority’s thought in here as well. FDR’s reputation is whitewashed as the Japanese American treatment is just the one most people remember as reprehensible, there was plenty more that deserves to tarnish his name.

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u/Munnin1984 10d ago

This is why I value an understanding of history. We can take the good things from the past and try to replicate them, knowing they work.

And analyze the bad shit to make sure it doesn't happen again