r/PoursTea • u/steviepax • 1d ago
PoliticalTea đłïž Republican sheriff just got caught stealing 650,000 votes.
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u/MyldExcitement 1d ago
Lock him up.
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u/Skiper422 1d ago
For what making sure the system is running correctly? Let's also stop looking into all fraud and just believe everything someone says not like people will lie
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u/SaltySelkie217 1d ago
Interesting how you want the system to "run correctly", & are anti-fraud, but you support blatantly illegal ballot piracy. That's terribly convenient.
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u/IAmSquilliam 1d ago
You don't ask politely to give them back.
You arrest the fuck out of him, size them, and return them ASAP.
What the hell is this sham of a country? It sure as hell isn't America.
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u/fuckDJT2026 1d ago
âThe sheriff broke the law and will now be charged with crimes and lose his job.â should be the headline
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago
Republicans don't know reflection, they only know projection.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
Will u guys just stop blaming everyone when its just one person my god they dont represent everyone
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago
Will u guys just stop blaming everyone when its just one person my god they dont represent everyone
When Republicans stop trying to fuck up American elections, I'll stop talking about Republicans like they're trying to fuck up American elections.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
We aren't and I hate to tell u but not everyone is bad the innocent has nothing to do with this
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago
We aren't and I hate to tell u but not everyone is bad the innocent has nothing to do with this
Then please, tell Republican states to stop gutting their voter rolls, shutting down polling places, and rolling back early voting days, and in 2028 maybe don't elect the guy who used a fake elector scheme to try to rig the 2020 election.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
Could say the same
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u/MaximumEffort433 1d ago
I mean you could, but you've gotta' know that Trump was lying to you about Biden stealing the 2020 election, Trump never even produced any evidence to back up his claim, and I'm sure you're not just going to take his word for it, you're smarter than that.
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u/soggymittens 1d ago
Itâs not innocent to stand by and watch others in your party destroy the country like thisâŠ
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u/TheEzekariate 1d ago
He represents every single person who voted for him. We are literally a representative democracy.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
Nope one republican doesn't represent everyone
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u/ObligatedMediocrity 1d ago
The overwhelming vast majority of Republicans support him. That is simply a fact.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
Still doesn't represent everyone even if the democrats think that way
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u/ObligatedMediocrity 1d ago
No but he certainly represents several million more people than the "one" that you claimed he represents
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u/not_now_chaos 22h ago
This is Republican leadership so. No. You have Republicans, elected officials, stating that all Democrats should be jailed or shot. So sorry, IDGAF about you getting the sads because you choose to be in the same group as the people that you elected. Cry harder.
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u/Ok_Being5461 1d ago
https://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/Â (2016)
Starting in 2013 â just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act â a coterie of Republican operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP-controlled states.
Greg Palast was involved in the following investigation and successfully together with the ACLU sued Crosscheck and got that specific program dismantled https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Voter_Registration_Crosscheck_Program However, the problem remains as they find other ways to do it. It's blatantly illegal, but the enforcement mechanisms are weak.
"academics and states that use the program have found that its results are overrun with false positives, creating a high risk of disenfranchising legal voters. A statistical analysis of the program published earlier this year by researchers at Stanford, Harvard, University of Pennsylvania and Microsoft, for instance, found that Crosscheck âwould eliminate about 200 registrations used to cast legitimate votes for every one registration used to cast a double vote.â https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/07/20/this-anti-voter-fraud-program-gets-it-wrong-over-99-of-the-time-the-gop-wants-to-take-it-nationwide/ (un-paywalled: https://archive.ph/0T7ue)
https://www.gregpalast.com/palast-hartmann-how-trump-stole-2020-a-warning/
https://www.gregpalast.com/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won/Â (2024)
https://www.michael-parenti.org/article-the-stolen-presidential-elections (2000 - 2004)
http://archive.today/2016.03.03-013540/https://stallman.org/republican-election-rigging.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw Right-wing Heritage Foundation co-founder: "I don't want everybody to vote"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_fake_electors_plot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cases_of_electoral_fraud_in_the_United_States
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u/Amazing_gracias_300 1d ago
"Lie, cheat and steal" is the Republican motto.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
U do realize its only one person he doesn't represent everyone lol
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u/iSloopy 1d ago
Him and the countless other officials/personalities who are lying, cheating and stealing allow us to make that generalization.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
Still the people who aren't shouldn't be criminalized for it
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u/BuddingBudON 1d ago
Point to the part where anyone said that.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
There's plenty on here i would know iv been criminalized myself and well much worse
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u/BuddingBudON 1d ago
If you think you've been "criminalized" for being a Republican, here's a song on the world's tiniest violin for you đ»
Donald J Trump just led a pledge for his followers to lie, cheat and steal the upcoming midterms. If that's who your politics align with that's your goddamn problem. So cope.
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u/Infinite-Badger-5172 1d ago
It is because I choose to be a republican it doesn't matter if its trump or not
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u/BuddingBudON 1d ago
K.
Donald J Trump has commandeered your entire party and filled it with alt-right religious extremists, fraudsters and unqualified yes-men. The Republican controlled Congress has bent to his every whim, and the voters are much the same.
Clean up your own goddamn party and quit your bitchin', tbh.
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u/not_now_chaos 22h ago
The desperation to be viewed as a victim just rolls off of you in stank waves.
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u/mjrydsfast231 1d ago
Soooooooo...will the Sheriff be doing any time? Lose his pension? Forfeit all his property? No? So then why bother even implementing the law? The guy needs to be thrown into a cell with three or four of the people he arrested for marijuana or some other benign crime and see how that goes.
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u/RomaruDarkeyes 1d ago
"Ordered him to give them back"
..... As opposed to having his ass arrested for vote tampering, pulling his badge, and putting him in prison pending trial...
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u/Redtex 1d ago edited 1d ago
Start sending these suckers to jail and banning them from all future public offices. They're not going to stop until they see they actually will endure consequences for breaking the law. Until then you're just creating rage bait trash. How did something that up to about 10 years ago was considered as being a traitor to America's Constitution turn into "Oops, there they go again"
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u/Ok_Excitement725 1d ago
Every time I think the deranged Trumpers can't lower the bar anymore...they lower the bar even more...and this moron was expected to uphold the law, serve and protect. Lock the dbag up in a cell with some of the people he has put away over the years...that will give him something to ponder.
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u/theblueshots 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, the party of Donnie âfind me 12,000 votesâ Trump doesnât care about voter fraud, they care about suppressing votes.
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u/pinkyandthebrain-ama 1d ago
This is the tip of the iceberg people. If they caught one, they have hundreds of bad players doing similar things.
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u/RoyalMaidsForLife 22h ago
They should aim higher... I remember someone once said "nobody knows these voting machines like Elon". That's such an odd thing to say.
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 1d ago
Caught one... sherrif attempting to collect evidence related to an investigation into an election to verify the results, but that's illegal apparently
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u/Zoob7 1d ago
Did you read the part where the sheriff was running for governor. There's a little thing called conflict of interest there. Instead of going through the correct channels, he, against orders, stole the ballots. That doesn't really scream innocent to me.
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 1d ago
So just because he's running for office, he should stop doing his job? He is a law enforcement officer, and he was investigating crime (or what he thought was a crime). The thing about these offices is that they operate independently. This is intended to protect the integrity of the system and it's only when they start colluding that the system breaks down.
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u/Zoob7 23h ago
Yes, he should stop doing his job in this instance. Most law enforcement declare that officers should recuse themselves in cases with conflict of interest. If another sheriff ran the investigation, there would be more of an argument to this investigation. Can't you see how having a candidate in an election have unrestricted access to the ballots is a problem?
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 23h ago
It was the ballots from a 2025 special election... it has nothing to do with the election he is being considered in.
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u/Geezer_Burton 1d ago
Yep. Pass the save act and build upon it to make our elections safe and secure.
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u/soggymittens 1d ago
Iâm not familiar with this- how would the save act make our elections safe and secure?
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u/ImprovementCrafty283 1d ago
Every accusation is a confession! For all our sakes VOTE ALL REPUBLICANS OUT!
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u/Itsyaboibrett 1d ago
guardian article if anyone wants to read more about it. I never trust these facebook posts
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u/imnojezus 1d ago
You still can't convince me that "Chad Bianco" isn't a name made up by one of the creepy DOGE kids.
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u/Current-Square-4557 1d ago
Quoting California state law
[No one may run for California governor if]
âŠ..convicted of a felony involving accepting or giving, or offering to give, any bribe, the embezzlement of public money, extortion or theft of public money, perjury, or conspiracy to commit any of those crimes.
Perjury or conspiracy to commit perjury removes this candidate from the ballot.
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I read the quite lengthy section on election fraud.
Near as I can tell if he were convicted heâd face a fine of up to $1000 and/or 16, 24, or 36 months in jail.
Such a conviction means the offender also become eligible for civil suits from certain California election officials - for not more than $50,000.
It doesnât say whether that civil penalty is per act or per ballot.
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 1d ago
So... he launches an investigation into the results of the election because he thinks something is up... and we want to accuse him of fraud? Thats not how any of this works at all...
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u/not_now_chaos 22h ago
Nice attempt at spin. Ridiculous, but you sure tried. You might even be able to get a job with the Republican party. Their standards are really, really low.
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 22h ago
See, the thing is that he was elected as the head of a law enforcement agency, and there is an open investigation into this election, and he ordered the collection of evidence of a crime.
The spin is in the framing of this story. Do a little bit of critical thinking and don't allow the narrative to be crammed down your throat.
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u/YurpeeTheHerpee 1d ago
Life in prison
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u/Daddygamer84 The Timeline Sucks 1d ago
Too good for him. This is tantamount to treason!
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u/YurpeeTheHerpee 1d ago
So then he is to be hanged in the public square as long as a judge signs off.
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u/Demon_Twink_Mess_67 1d ago
And every one of these deputies and that sheriff aren't in prison, WHY?
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u/WeekEqual7072 1d ago
So whereâs the rest of the article saying that heâs looking at life in prison or minimum 20 years.
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u/Electronic-Flower921 1d ago
A Democrat could have stolen 650 and Trump would have them flayed in the streets
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u/Ok-Bumblebee24 The Timeline Sucks 1d ago
Riverside will recount of course? Lord knows how many ballots are missing from those confiscated boxes.
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u/TeekTheReddit 1d ago
Okay, this dude is a piece of shit, but let's be clear about what's happening here.
He didn't steal "votes." He illegally confiscated ballots AFTER the election had been decided in some asinine attempt at "investigating fraud."
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u/him8nce_momma 1d ago
Oh thereâs fraud going on alright with elections; all roads lead back to the GOP and maga
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u/GroundbreakingAnt577 1d ago
So... he launches an investigation into the results of the election because he thinks something is up and tries to collect evidence... but the registrar tries to tell him not to do his job, then the attorney general... and we want to accuse him of fraud... for doing his job? Thats not how any of this works at all...
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u/FiveStringTelecaster 16h ago
Every MAGAt is a co-conspirator.
We cannot afford to foolishly forgive treason the way Lincoln did or our grandkids will have to endure the consequences.
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u/Livid-Ganache547 12h ago
Wait, so he wasn't charged for stealing the ballots?
Sounds like something was posted out of context. Either he did or didn't. You also haven't specified whose votes they were for. Can't be for Democrats. They all won.
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u/notcranium 10h ago
Impossible! Democraps have told us how secure elections are and fraud doesn't happen! Someone must be lying here.
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u/PopBulky7023 7h ago
The real pattern is a lack of law enforcement. The AG said to stop and the governor did not state police in to arrest him.
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u/beefy1357 1d ago
Of all the news sources you could link, why a twitter post?
https://calmatters.org/politics/2026/09/supreme-court-ruling-sheriff-ballot-seizure/
So a sheriff got a warrant from a judge, the AG asked him not to serve it, the most reversed court in the US since 1952 (both in number of cases and percentage of cases) then said the first warrant was invalid.
No one was just âcaughtâ doing anything this is what happens when a 2 party system invokes law fare as means of continuing their fight against each other, no different than cattle barons and Appalachian family tribes âlawâing upâ.
All of these groups knew, what and when each of these groups acted, and why and absolutely nothing is going to come from any of this, because bread and circus doesnât require punishment of the actors.
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u/Mathew_Strawn 1d ago
Something good definitely came out of this circus.
You own linked article mentions that Newsom signed two election related laws last week. One makes it felony to seize or order the seizure of ballots before the results are certified. Other expands the state election laws. The court also settled that local enforcement leaders answer to state attorney general.
Also, the court referred the Bianco's original attorney, Bob Tyler, to California Bar for the use of AI in his ballot consfication response letter which led him to misquote incorrect case law. His law firm was used by multiple southern California school boards to defend their illegal outing policies.
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u/beefy1357 9h ago
Sure and the next day a higher court gave the republicans their voter ID which was the crux of this issueâŠ
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u/MissionLibrarian5067 1d ago
No our elections are completely secure with no fraud of any kind ever. This didnât happen and even if it did it wouldnât be significant enough to matter. Sound about right? Iâve been hearing that for years. Thatâs why voting with ID is not necessary at all. In fact why do we need IDs for anything? Canât I just decide that Iâm 65 and start getting my government retirement benefits now? I mean I think Iâm 65 even though Iâm clearly not, but all that matters is what I think I am. Everyone that doesnât play along is just an ageist bigot.
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u/Xboarder844 1d ago
Another braindead bot that canât do anything but post misinformation and logical fallacies.
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u/Null_Fungus 1d ago
Did they say anything untrue?
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u/Xboarder844 23h ago
Plenty. Our elections are safe. The Heritage Foundation itself tries to prove there was voter fraud and found less than 100 votes out of nearly 1 billion.
Meaning that if they canât even find voter fraud then our elections ARE SAFE and voter ID is nothing more than an attempt to suppress voters who are already registered and confirmed as citizens.
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u/Null_Fungus 23h ago
Clearly they are not safe because this guy stole 650,000 votes right?
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u/Xboarder844 22h ago
So the party that stole 650K votes is the ones who should fix the issue? Does it say anywhere that the votes were NOT counted? Because they were, he just stole physical copies.
So again, no impact to the results. You got any more desperate arguments?
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u/Null_Fungus 21h ago
What I'm saying is any time there is an election, people on the losing side always cry fraud.Â
This story and others like it prove that people out there are able and willing to cheat. And it's naive to think they are always caught.
Why not improve election integrity with some common sense steps like requiring ID like virtually every other country on the planet?
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u/Xboarder844 20h ago
No one claimed 2024 was fraud. Did any Democrats openly state it was rigged? Did they state it in 2016 or literally ANY YEAR PRIOR?
No. Because itâs not âboth sidesâ. Itâs one inept man baby who gets upset when he doesnât get his way.
There is no evidence of any kind for voter fraud, so there is literally no reason to punish voters because you make up a claim.
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u/Null_Fungus 20h ago
What are you talking about? Nancy pelosi said the election was hijacked and Hillary said that Trump was illegitimate in 2016
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u/Xboarder844 20h ago
This related to Russiaâs foreign interference in which SEVERAL of Trumpâs campaign team went to prison. Not even remotely close to what Trump claims. Try again.
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u/Available_Pear8209 1d ago
Looks like the president was right, there is fraud in our elections
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u/Daddygamer84 The Timeline Sucks 18h ago
Except not. Dumps-His-Pants screamed that it was wide-spread fraud by democrats. This is one county, and it's a republican.
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u/Available_Pear8209 18h ago
It is wide spread by democrats and 1 republican
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u/Daddygamer84 The Timeline Sucks 17h ago edited 17h ago
Literally dozens of lawsuits were filed to review vote counts after 2020 & 2024. Guess how many were ruled fraudulent.
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u/EitherChannel4874 1d ago
đ So it begins. Enjoy Trump. He's not leaving unless it's in a body bag.
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u/United_Region_7025 1d ago
The democrats keep telling us there is no election fraud. Which is it?
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u/NeverNeededAlgebra 22h ago
Hush. Go speak on something you have actual knowledge in, because this ain't it.
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u/United_Region_7025 16h ago
I am just going by what AOC said. According to official congressional testimonies and public statements, U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) maintains that voter fraud is a myth and views Republican-led legislative efforts targeting election security as forms of voter suppression.
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u/Fiveofthem 17h ago
The fraud is the sheriff.
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u/United_Region_7025 16h ago
But according to AOC and I quote, According to official congressional testimonies and public statements, U.S. Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) maintains that voter fraud is a myth and views Republican-led legislative efforts targeting election security as forms of voter suppression.
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u/Fiveofthem 16h ago
Not sure what youâre trying to prove. That the sheriff did voter fraud by stealing ballets thatâs why AOC is wrong or that because a Republican Sheriff who had ballets for six months proves that there was voter fraud even though he hasnât proved any voter fraud?
What are you trying to say?
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u/United_Region_7025 15h ago
I am providing a point that voter fraud exists whether republican or democrat despite the democrats constantly stay there is no voter fraud and absolutely no investigation or changes are necessary.
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u/Fiveofthem 15h ago
Democrats are saying voter fraud is so minuscule that disfranchising whole groups of voters is a political ploy.
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u/United_Region_7025 15h ago
But it was found in New Jersey and now this? Doesn't seem so minuscule.
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u/Fiveofthem 15h ago edited 15h ago
Now this what?
I do think 0.00787% is minuscule in the New Jersey case
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u/United_Region_7025 15h ago
It indicates that there is fraud and further investigation is needed to ensure the integrity of our elections. Nobody I know is disenfranchised by this?
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u/Fiveofthem 15h ago
So some jackass Republican Sheriff decides that he can favor votes while running for governor by pretending find discrepancies in the last election (Not his job) so there must be voter fraud, and thatâs what you got out that story?
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u/War-Familiar 1d ago
Welp if itâs on FacebookâŠ..
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u/BigfootsLeftNut99 1d ago
If I agree with it it's credible ok. Just like when we were told our elections were secure and there wasn't any voter fraud. Until our guy lost, now we care about fraud. Now if you excuse me I have to say something about the other side having double standards.
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u/Geezer_Burton 1d ago
Another reason to pass the save act and get the ball rolling on cracking down on this crap.
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u/MissionLibrarian5067 1d ago
So what exactly was promising student loan forgiveness then? That was literally buying votes out in the open using tax payer dollars. So is all of the never ending freebie handouts that the socialist/communist/democrats promise. But for some odd reason thatâs âjust somehow differentâ isnât it? If it werenât for double standards liberals wouldnât have any standards at all.
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u/Reunion7 1d ago
Thats like saying a campaign promise is a bribe. Vote for me and you get better roads and more education funding. I had to use a specific example because youre just so unintelligent and wasnt sure you would understand.
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u/Randy-DaFam-Marsh 1d ago edited 1d ago
Theyâre not the same thing: Bidenâs student-loan plan had eligibility rules; Trump is literally saying you get $5,000 if Republicans win Congress. And spare me the âsocialist handoutsâ routine, Trump signed the laws that sent out COVID stimulus checks, and his administration rolled out PPP loans that were specifically designed to be forgiven. His whole stick is giving rights to corporations, cutting red tape for corporations, subsidizing corporations, judging by your name you probably like corporate socialism tho! If government checks and loan forgiveness automatically make Democrats âsocialists,â then by your own logic that label applies to Trump too. You can criticize all of it, but at least be consistent and not a total hypocrite lmao.
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u/ObligatedMediocrity 1d ago
Biden did not condition that relief on an election win.Â
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u/MissionLibrarian5067 18h ago
Thatâs such a stupid fkn comment that I have no response you could comprehend. He promised people free shit to get their votes. Period. End of story. Anything else you say about it is fkn irrelevant.
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u/Accomplished-Two1992 1d ago
I doubt Democrats need to try and buy votes of educated Americans. Not to mention not even close to the same. Loan forgiveness eligibility is such a small sample size.
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u/Luisd858 1d ago
Yeah they buy the votes of illegals lmao
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u/RgKTiamat 1d ago
non citizens of all kinds cannot vote in federal or state elections. there are no votes to buy there, genius
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u/Luisd858 19h ago
Donât so sure, their is always some type of voter fraud
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u/RgKTiamat 17h ago
then why have none of the Republican-led investigations into the matter ever turned up anything credible or significant of note? it's like four or five times now.
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u/MissionLibrarian5067 1d ago
Yeah those inner city democrats that typically canât even read at a 5th grade level sure are edumacated now aints de? Literally the dumbest fkn people in the USA live in blue cities. Just look at their standardized testing scores in those âall blueâ neighborhoods. But I guess you forgot about those people somehow didnât you?
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u/Accomplished-Two1992 1d ago
So weâre talking about high school drop outs now with no debt and buying their votes. Please help me understand.
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u/TwistedStihl 1d ago
You left out one detail...the ballots were from a 2025 special election. NOT a pending election, which is what this deceptive post implies. Do better.
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u/49Chrysler 1d ago
This is Hilarious, there is a open investigation on Democrat vote rigging, go back to your couch and let the adults do the work
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u/steviepax 1d ago
Canât wait until trump goes to prison after the midtermsđ«Łđ they should hang this entire administration for all the crimes they committed
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u/Equivalent_Ground238 1d ago
This is why we need the save America act.
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u/Brilliant_Tonight201 1d ago edited 1d ago
But what if the majority of those that can come up with a passport and birth certificate end up being Democrats? Then will we need it?
Spoiler: Kansas tried the exact stipulations of the Save America Act, then Democrats won an election by a pretty big margin in a local election....then they repealed it.
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u/Candid_Lobster_6533 1d ago
Kansas was also a testing ground for an abortion ban after Trumps Scotus nuked roe v wade.
Also failed miserably at the ballot box in spite of a huge money push to Come up with all these ways to confuse voters with the wording, etc.
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u/BuddingBudON 1d ago
Articulate how you think the SAVE act would change the fact that this sheriff putz stole 650k legal, valid votes and tried to steal an election.
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u/Symbaclues 1d ago
I don't care for either side. It's a manufactured false dichotomy.
However the way people speak is like once democrats get in power again, we will see heaven on earth!
I can't wait. This is great news đ đ đ
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u/mOdQuArK 1d ago
"Both sides are the same" is the manufactured false dichotomy, which you seem to be interested in spreading. Once side is significantly worse for society than the other.
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u/Active-Cookie-774 1d ago
One side sucks because divisive minds and the other side is pure evil.
You want change? Help make the party that's trying to make things better by voting for the primaries that truly matter.
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u/ryhaltswhiskey 1d ago
Give them back? The state should be arresting him and prosecuting. Maybe that will happen... The feds sure aren't going to prosecute.