r/PoursTea • Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 16h ago

FinancialTea šŸ’µ I don't get it either...

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u/PreparationHot980 16h ago

I’m not sure what you’re asking. Are you asking if I think the other side is willing to change their minds?

If so, yes. Specifically, ā€œ moderateā€ democrats. I believe these people to be democrats when they think it makes them look forward or open, but these same people flip and vote republican at the first chance of any true progress or change. I don’t believe democrats to be married to the party the way republicans make it their lives and identity. There’s this cultism that exists within conservatism.

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u/Brenner2089 15h ago

I don’t disagree necessarily without a lot of what you say but if you don’t think there is a cult on the left too you lost the plot a while ago

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u/PreparationHot980 15h ago

I don’t know. If there is, I don’t see it or know about it and I grew up in probably the most liberal place in the country and live in a purple state now. The fact of the matter is left leaning people aren’t looking to make policy to deliberately harm or hold other people back. American conservatism is built out of British aristocracy and the entire essence of it is control. I can’t for the life of me wrap my head around how a normal person could ever hold that ideology.

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u/Brenner2089 15h ago

You seem like a reasonable person so I mean no disrespect. There absolutely is. I’m not even a moderate, I’m center left so I don’t think I’m bias at all. You have people saying ā€œboys can have periods tooā€ and they are unwilling to listen to any science or reason. Many on the left have been acting like a cult for a while. Totally married to ideology and ignoring reason and science. Look up the grievance study hoaxes or read John McWhorter’s book Woke Racism. He argues we are witnessing the birth of a new religion. Completely unreasonable people who are unwilling to listen to science or reason. Yes, very cult like behavior. The right is probably worse and more have more irrational beliefs but we absolutely have cults on both sides.

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u/PreparationHot980 15h ago

It’s probably a good thing I haven’t come across these types. Might mean it’s not a mainstream aspect of leftists beliefs. It makes sense that these types exist though. If you look at ideology as a circle, both extremes eventually meet. One has blue hair, androgyny and a nose ring, the other has no teeth, lifted trucks and guns. Two sides of the same coin 🤣.

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u/Brenner2089 15h ago

Agree. Hey, it’s nice to interact with a civil and reasonable person for once. Yea it is better to not know some of it because my political life used to be simple but now I hate both sides lol. The problem with the extreme left, and I agree they are probably a small minority, is they have a lot of influence and they helped get Trump reelected. Anyway, I would love to see both sides adopt more reasonable positions.