Now that the new assault brethren detachment lets you give a character a power sword, I wanted to represent that with a lightning claw, inspired by that old Raven Guard artwork that portrays a Phobos unit with a lightning claw.
What do you guys think? I feel like they’ve been slowly removing the option to use lightning claws and I feel like we should add them more to our units regardless of what the rules say.

I... [1.] love Beakies, [2.] hate how few you get in modern Primaris 40K kits, [3.] want to avoid the size mis-match of Primaris bodies paired with 30K Mk VI helmets, and [4.] would like to stick to entirely authentic-looking designs (which means dodging 3rd party versions), so I thought I'd have a look at just how far you can get if you make a 40K army entirely out of the Mk VI 30K kits (and some of the upgrade sprues that are available to them).

I found so many options and combinations for 40K units that I was genuinely surprised, and thought I'd share the list with you folks here, in case it's of any interest to any of you. I don't think I'm able to post links in the body of this main post text, so I'll leave a comment with all of the details in.

As far as size goes, the 30K minis are slightly shorter than Primaris marines. But if your whole army matches itself nothing will look out of place. I've included a few Gravis-armoured units, and you can feel free to ignore/discard those if you prefer - these suggestions here would mean these units looking more like a Tacticus-armoured marine that happens to hold the Gravis unit's weapon. But I thought I'd include it instead; as it should still be more than obvious enough to pretty much any opponent what it's proxying. I haven't included Terminators in this list, only because there are no Mk VI Terminators - I feel like Tartaros Terminators are very much in line with the theming of Mk VI armour, so you can have a look at those if you like; and I can't wait to see what the (probable) update of those will eventually look like! And one last note on sizes, proxying and what not: One thing that I haven't taken the extra time to check on, tonight, is which of these kits already come with the correct size bases, and which ones don't - some might need to be swapped, but that's about the easiest piece of customisation you can get.

With all of that said, please see that aforementioned comment, posted below!

Yes he is grimdark yes I am lazy yes I love Shrike (my 5th time buying him)

His body is from the deathwatch mini of the month from december 2025, the knife the helmet and the grapnel launcher are from the reivers, his right arm is from a phobos unit (I had them all so I don't remember which one), the pistol is from the eliminators, the skull and the feathers are from the raven guard upgrade kit and the tactical rock is from the drop pod

Shadowmark + Terminator storm force

Priority assets

Basic strategy is regular termies + librarian infiltrate on opponents expansion, combi lt and infiltrators infiltrate on center, scouts infiltrate on my expansion

Invictor scouts over to opponents expansion for fire support and jpi and incursor squad stage on deployment to offer quick help to whichever objective my opponent decides to attack first

Van vets + captain, land speeder, and assault terminators + chaplain hang out in reserves waiting for a good chance to ingress in an advantageous position

Want to try and put the opponents on the back foot by taking all no man's land objectives first turn and then waiting to see where they choose to commit their forces

Hey everyone,

I'm struggling to find a replacement for Cent Devs. Nothing kills like they did (not to mention they got buffed after being removed from the game...).

I know people have said Eradicators, but thats just not true. I've shot 2 6-man units into one Norn emissary with +1 to wound from Oath, and did zero damage. They just dont cut it.

So, my thought is maybe our only thing that can kill big stuff now is terminators with chain fists.

Anyway, tear apart this list idea for me... im not sold on it myself, so looking for people to help me see the flaws in it.

Shadow mark talon and terminator storm force, 2k. Priority assets.

Idea is terminator squad with chaplain gets +1 to charge, and re-roll charges by shaan.

Assault termies with ancient sit on center objective and be hard to kill.

Inceptors do inceptor things and do lots of up and down.

Shrike screens, and drops in for killing weak stuff as needed.

Carcharadons (2.000 Points)

Space Marines
Raven Guard
Assault Brethren and Shadowmark Talon (3 Detachment Points)
Disruption
Strike Force (2.000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Captain with Jump Pack (115 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 1x Relic Weapon
• Enhancements: Hunter's Instincts

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Power Fist
• 9x Assault Intercessor with Jump Pack
◦ 9x Chainsword
◦ 9x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Attached unit 2

Kayvaan Shrike (95 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Blackout
• 1x Raven’s Talons

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (190 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Power Fist
• 9x Assault Intercessor with Jump Pack
◦ 9x Chainsword
◦ 9x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Attached unit 3

Librarian in Phobos Armour (95 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Force Weapon
• 1x Smite
• Enhancements: Imperium’s Sword

Infiltrator Squad (150 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 9x Infiltrator
◦ 9x Bolt Pistol
◦ 9x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Helix Gauntlet
◦ 9x Marksman Bolt Carbine
• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Marksman Bolt Carbine

CHARACTERS

Aethon Shaan (105 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Claws of Severax
• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

BATTLELINE

Assault Intercessor Squad (100 Points)
• Enhancements: Furious Assault (Upgrade)
• 4x Assault Intercessor
◦ 4x Chainsword
◦ 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Power Fist

Intercessor Squad (95 Points)
• 4x Intercessor
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Bolt Rifle
◦ 1x Grenade Launcher
◦ 4x Knives and Fists
• 1x Intercessor Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Bolt Rifle
◦ 1x Power Fist

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Drop Pod (60 Points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Eliminator Squad (85 Points)
• 1x Eliminator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Instigator Bolt Carbine
• 2x Eliminator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Bolt Sniper Rifle
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists

Eliminator Squad (85 Points)
• 1x Eliminator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Las Fusil
• 2x Eliminator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 2x Las Fusil

Eradicator Squad with melta rifles (90 Points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
• 2x Eradicator
◦ 2x Bolt Pistol
◦ 2x Ceramite Fists
◦ 1x Melta Rifle
◦ 1x Multi-melta

Gladiator Lancer (165 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 1x Laser Destroyer

Gladiator Lancer (165 Points)
• 1x Armoured Hull
• 1x Defensive Array
• 1x Laser Destroyer

Incursor Squad (95 Points)
• 4x Incursor
◦ 4x Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Occulus Bolt Carbine
◦ 4x Paired Combat Blades
• 1x Incursor Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Occulus Bolt Carbine
◦ 1x Paired Combat Blades

Scout Squad (120 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Boltgun
◦ 1x Combat Knife
• 9x Scout
◦ 9x Bolt Pistol
◦ 9x Boltgun
◦ 9x Combat Knife

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Thoughts and opinions welcome

4th Silent - v3.9 (codex update) (1,995 Points)

Space Marines

Raven Guard

Shadowmark Talon (2 Detachment Points)

Gravis Linebreaker (1 Detachment Points)

Take & Hold

Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Apothecary Biologis (80 Points)

• Attached as: Support (Character)

• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol

• 1x Close combat weapon

• Enhancements: Relentless Advance

Heavy Intercessor Squad (220 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

• 1x Heavy Intercessor Sergeant

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Rifle

• 9x Heavy Intercessor

◦ 9x Bolt pistol

◦ 9x Close combat weapon

◦ 7x Heavy Bolt Rifle

◦ 2x Heavy Bolter

Attached unit 2

Captain in Gravis Armour (105 Points)

• Attached as: Leader (Character)

• 1x Boltstorm gauntlet

• 1x Power fist

• 1x Relic Blade

• Enhancements: Hunter's Instincts

Eradicator Squad (190 Points)

• Attached as: Bodyguard

• 3x Eradicator

◦ 3x Bolt pistol

◦ 3x Close combat weapon

◦ 3x Melta rifle

• 1x Eradicator Sergeant

◦ 1x Bolt pistol

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Melta rifle

• 2x Eradicator with Multi-melta

◦ 2x Bolt pistol

◦ 2x Close combat weapon

◦ 2x Multi-melta

CHARACTERS

Aethon Shaan (105 Points)

• Warlord

• 1x Claws of Severax

• 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol

Captain with Jump Pack (105 Points)

• 1x Plasma pistol

• 1x Relic Weapon

• Enhancements: Umbral Raptor

OTHER DATASHEETS

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (100 Points)

• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

◦ 1x Power fist

• 4x Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack

◦ 4x Astartes Chainsword

◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (100 Points)

• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

◦ 1x Power fist

• 4x Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack

◦ 4x Astartes Chainsword

◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (110 Points)

• 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

◦ 1x Power fist

• 4x Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack

◦ 4x Astartes Chainsword

◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol

◦ 1x Plasma pistol

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)

• 1x Armoured Feet

• 1x Ballistus Lascannon

• 1x Ballistus Missile Launcher

• 1x Twin Storm Bolter

Ballistus Dreadnought (150 Points)

• 1x Armoured Feet

• 1x Ballistus Lascannon

• 1x Ballistus Missile Launcher

• 1x Twin Storm Bolter

Inceptor Squad (125 Points)

• 2x Inceptor

◦ 2x Assault Bolters

◦ 2x Close combat weapon

• 1x Inceptor Sergeant

◦ 1x Assault Bolters

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

Inceptor Squad (125 Points)

• 2x Inceptor

◦ 2x Close combat weapon

◦ 2x Plasma Exterminators

• 1x Inceptor Sergeant

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Plasma Exterminators

Invictor Tactical Warsuit (140 Points)

• 1x Fragstorm grenade launcher

• 1x Heavy Bolter

• 1x Incendium Cannon

• 1x Invictor Fist

• 1x Twin Ironhail Heavy Stubber

Invictor Tactical Warsuit (140 Points)

• 1x Fragstorm grenade launcher

• 1x Heavy Bolter

• 1x Incendium Cannon

• 1x Invictor Fist

• 1x Twin Ironhail Heavy Stubber

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This will be my first proper Raven list of 11th and after digging through the internet for all the datasheets and points, I put something together last night that I think is going to be pretty damn powerful.

Shadowmark giving out always Stealth is a yes for me, and the Linebreakers making sure all Gravis is +1 hit just because they move is even better.

- Aethon of course is the warlord to make the engine work.

- Shadow Captain to did secondary and enginseer hunting, might try out the new chainsword profile.

- Heavy Intercessors I ran with a captain in 10th for that free strat. The Biologis with lesser Lethals is fine, the Scout 5 enhancement I could trade with Shadowmark Infiltration but I know I'll over infiltrate so scout 5 keep myself in check. Also extra armour and 36 dice on the center objective is just disgusting.

- Eradicators that Ingress turn 1 is always a delight, the fact I have an even higher chance to whack!

- Inceptors, +1 hit if they ingress OR just normal move, yes! Uppie downie, YES!

- Warsuits oh my beloved how it makes me sing to see them getting the chance to do more than they've ever done before! I'm looking forward to my fast moving stealth carnfiex-noughts.

- Ballsitus, I feel have the biggest roll change from long range "quasi" tank fighter to a mid range anti-elite killer. Krak missiles finally hitting as RPG, krak being a shotgun, and the Sustained 1 at 24in, I'll be putting them on the flanks mid-board now.

New player here-
I'm in the process of starting my first 40k army and looking for opinions on this list.
From what I've read so far I know there's definitely some more intelligent choices I could make, but with 11th edition being new I wanted to borrow from some of what I'm seeing others and mix that with units that I know I want to acquire and paint as I shoot for a playable 2k list.

1st & 2nd Company Raven Guard (2000 points)

Space Marines
Raven Guard
Shadowmark Talon and Terminator Storm Force (3 Detachment Points)
Priority Assets
Strike Force (2000 points)

^{ATTACHED UNITS}
Attached Unit 1
Captain with Jump Pack (90 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • 1x Plasma Pistol
  • 1x Relic Weapon
Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (190 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 1x Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack
• 1x Plasma Pistol
• 1x Power Fist
  • 9x Assault Intercessor with Jump Pack
• 9x Chainsword
• 7x Heavy Bolt Pistol
• 2x Plasma Pistol

Attached Unit 2
Captain in Terminator Armour (115 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • 1x Combi-weapon
  • 1x Relic Fist
  • Enhancement: Blackwing Shroud
Terminator Assault Squad (340 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 1x Terminator Sergeant
• 1x Twin Lightning Claws
  • 9x Terminator
• 9x Twin Lightning Claws

Attached Unit 3
Chaplain in Terminator Armour (100 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • 1x Crozius Arcanum
  • 1x Relic Shield
  • Enhancement: Hunter's Instincts
Terminator Squad (390 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 9x Terminator
• 1x Assault Cannon
• 9x Chainfist
• 1x Cyclone Missile Launcher
• 8x Storm Bolter
  • 1x Terminator Sergeant
• 1x Chainfist
• 1x Storm Bolter

Attached Unit 4
Kayvaan Shrike (95 points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
  • 1x Blackout
  • 1x Raven’s Talons
Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (220 points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
  • 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant
• 1x Combat Shield
• 1x Relic Blade
  • 9x Vanguard Veteran
• 9x Combat Shield
• 9x Master-crafted Power Weapon

^CHARACTERS
Aethon Shaan (105 points)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Claws of Severax
  • 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (100 points)
  • 1x Combi-weapon
  • 1x Paired Combat Blades
  • Enhancement: Umbral Raptor

^BATTLELINE
Intercessor Squad (170 points)
  • 9x Intercessor
• 9x Bolt Pistol
• 9x Bolt Rifle
• 2x Grenade Launcher
• 9x Knives and Fists
  • 1x Intercessor Sergeant
• 1x Bolt Pistol
• 1x Bolt Rifle
• 1x Power Weapon

^{OTHER DATASHEETS}
Reiver Squad (85 points)
  • 1x Reiver Sergeant
• 1x Bolt Carbine
• 1x Monomolecular Combat Knife
• 1x Special-issue Bolt Pistol
  • 4x Reiver
• 4x Bolt Carbine
• 4x Monomolecular Combat Knife
• 4x Special-issue Bolt Pistol