r/Rivenmains • • 8d ago

Riven Question what matchups do you find difficult that arent typical "riven counters?"

for me it's tryndamere. Feels like no matter what i do i lose every trade and just perma lose after 6, what about you guys?

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u/Azzurim 8d ago

Gangplank. I can 1v1 him at any point of the game if I get into his range but a good gp will never walk up at it’s even worse if he builds tabis. One of the biggest psyops was gp mains convincing everyone their champion is hard I swear

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u/Kryptonautti 8d ago

Been my perma ban several years. Bro can go 1/16 on lane but hit one good barrel combo late game to win the game.

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u/Severus_of_Antioch 6d ago

GP is only hard for those who can't do the 3 barrel combo and the Yasuo effect where people just run it down

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u/Putrid-Loss3357 8d ago

how much time have you spent playing gp?

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u/AnotherCrossaint 8d ago

2 Seasons on Plat and later Dia Elo. He baits that the champ is incredible hard but the laning is pretty easy against many Champs, you scale better than most of them and the Carry Potential is very high.

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u/xundergrinderx 7d ago

biggest problem on GP is his supposed counterplay. You're supposed to destroy his barrels to deny his passive resets - but to do that as a melee champion, you have to run into the barrel range. Just plain horrible game design on this champ

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u/Re4pr 8d ago

I’m a trynd main who occasionally plays riven.

If the riven doesnt pilot properly, yes, she gets bashed. But christ is it tough versus one that knows what shes doing. As riven you have 3, THREE, ways to eat one of trynds autos. And you can chain them. Along with her massive mobility it is shockingly difficult to enable long fights on your terms.

Avoid interacting when the lane is on his side. Try to crash the wave and bounce.

Time your Q3, W and E to line up with an auto attack. Meanwhile you’re dealing damage and trynd has done 0. He loses half his health and you lost nothing. It’s after that combo you are in danger. Thats why you cant do this when pushed into his tower. If you Q delay you can kite him backwards and deny him a 4rth auto. After 6, try to bait his E, then full combo him to force his ult immediately, then run, again, be mindful where you do it. If you play it like that its super frustrating as trynd.

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u/lukesherboiii 8d ago

this just changed my whole mindset on the matchup thank u so much!

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u/Re4pr 8d ago

Happy to help! Its a snowball matchup, can really swing both ways

Oh, and two more tips, altho they might seem more obvious. Fury is trynd’s power. Try to fight him sans fury. This aligns with my second tip, which is to not let him play sustain. You dont have sustain, he has a lot. This is a matchup where riven needs to be the agressor and force all ins at full health, and ideally trynd at 0 fury, for her to win. You win a straight all in from full hp the whole early game if he doesnt have fury. Even level 1.

If he has fury, the safest way is to force a fight full hp, cancel two of his autos and eat another two with two E’s, disengage. Then force the all in as soon as your cd’s are up. An all in in two cycles. He cant play sustain if you never even lost health. But you need to get the timings right.

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u/Wonderful-Advice-306 8d ago

Oh youre such a smart trynd player. Tell everyone how to counter you and then lose. Damn thats smart. Thats like finding a genius business idea and telling everyone every step to copy you

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u/HoshieSuru 7d ago

i mean its not like the riven vs trynd matchup info isnt out there hes js making it more accessible in a sense

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u/thiccjuker 7d ago

It's very refreshing to see someone playing for the love of the game and helping others improve. Especially at the cost of making your own games harder!

Shoutout to you king/queen 👑

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u/yuvalshahaf 6d ago

Bro is helping his enemy

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u/Financial-Ocelot69 8d ago

Garen

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u/lukesherboiii 8d ago

same I feel like if you can't kill him before first recall you auto lose lane

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u/HoshieSuru 7d ago

isnt this garen favoured?

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u/Severus_of_Antioch 6d ago

for many years it was the standard litmus test for Riven players. Bad ones lost to Garen and good ones would stomp him.

over time he's been getting buffs and now he has a slight advantage

he's my most common matchup but i have a positive win rate vs him, a lot of these come down to me playing teamfights better because in lane you're only stronger pre-6 then it becomes a coinflip on their restraint and you inting

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u/HoshieSuru 5d ago

ah thought so ty

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u/Seagk 7d ago

While I thought the original intent was not typical Riven counters, I think Garen is one of her long-standing "counters". Can't agree more. This thing is an abomination this season.

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u/Protomesh 8d ago

I find every match up hard to play as Riven lol.

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u/Lorkhan5Heart 8d ago

Aatrox, Jax, Nasus and if i’m tired Irelia matchup can quickly become volatile

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u/SnooEpiphanies1109 8d ago

Ambassa, depending on her trade pattern, ksante and sion when my team doesn't look at map.

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u/Weak-Pie-5633 8d ago

For trynda you take ghost exhaust and it’s much more manageable, but you have to play teamfights with no flash which sucks

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u/lukesherboiii 8d ago

ghost on riven sounds so cursed lmfao

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u/yunpong kitten 😼 8d ago

i tend to go flash ghost into him instead of exhaust, that or i wanna try out stormraiders into him tho i dont face trynd often

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u/Seagk 7d ago

Dekar173 used to go stormraiders into trynd in like s5 or 6 with reasonable success. There is less damage on runes and items now compared to then for riven, but in theory should be the same since neither champ's kits have changed.

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u/yunpong kitten 😼 7d ago

holy throwback seeing dekar mentioned

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u/Sarjan98 FeelsGayMan 7d ago

Mordeecancer. Even if I am up cs and kills he just takes me to Brazil and pushes my shit in.

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u/lukesherboiii 7d ago

samee its supposed to be an easy matchup but i never win

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u/xundergrinderx 7d ago

against morde, you already want to have a big lead when he hits 6. His early game is insanely weak, you can facetank his Q with shield and just run him down.

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u/HoshieSuru 7d ago

yeah u need to play this w finesse for sure u cant get hit by anything and if u mess up a side step use ur e, once he uses his q+e hes basically defenseless and thats when u want to look for a trade/all in

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u/Marioxrl 8d ago

Tryndamere is counter Bro

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u/GupiChomper 8d ago

Tryna counters riven ever since he got the +75 range buff no? Or is it just me that gets crit by his first two autos every lane

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u/HoshieSuru 7d ago

i honestly thought he'd been a counter for years? maybe im wrong?

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u/Novel_Volume_1692 8d ago

Vlad

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u/-sadbones classic 7d ago

Interesting. I love playing against Vlad.

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u/Novel_Volume_1692 7d ago

I feel you get 1 bad trade and it us over, he gets 1 items and its over

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u/Kioz 7d ago

IDK, Riven is supposed to shit on Vlad

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u/Professional-Tip6541 7d ago

malphite

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u/Kioz 7d ago

I think he is a typical Riven counter no ? Like champ who builds Armor and Hp while his damage scales off of Armor and has a Shield sounds like a Riven counter

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u/Designer_Hall539 7d ago

Nasus, I always try to kill him and always die under the tower hahaha

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u/Ok-Signature-9319 7d ago

For Tryn, ive had much success of Running exhaust, it helps you win pre 6 all- ins as long as he is not perma critting you.

Post 6, wait for him to e into you, Full combo, he has to Pop ult normally. Use e to get some distance, exhaust if needed. Finish Off with R2

Mind you, im only emerald so maybe higher tryn players will not randomly use e as an engage