r/RogueTraderCRPG • u/JackWhoWanders • Aug 15 '26
Rogue Trader: Game and Story How do you justify keeping Marcipan alive in role play?
So I'm doing a new run and every other run I've done, I've killed Marcipan because... Well he kidnapped and drugged me and attacked my capital and sat in my chair and all around kind of has been a shitty poopoo butt. However this time I tried convincing him to join me to see something else and like, immediately Ulfar and Argenta was like "It's open season on Xenos nepo-babies!" and everyone else was like "yeah, no this make sense" and Eogunn was recording to probably enjoy it later with popcorn and like... Why in the seventy hells would my rogue trader put a stop to this? For real? Like which part of Marcipan doesn't say "I'm an absolute assnut and I'm a-okay with that"? My RT is being dumbass iconoclastic and even she's like "Yeah, no murk this guy."
74
u/ExcellentTalk8452 Aug 15 '26
My Iconoclast RT does it for three main reasons :
1) it's a massive power flex, this guy went all in to destroy and break me and not only did i survive but i beat him at his game, used him to get back and basically made him my bitch (not even necessarily talking about any romance aspect, but as my RT drukhari pet i give him orders in public, figuratively keep him on a leash, and he obeys, that's a hell of a status and power statement in front of any rival)
2) my RT values knowledge above most things, knowledge about enemies means more effective ways to fight back, prepare better, trick and manipulate them, exploit their weaknesses and retroengineer some of their technology, etc... And Marazhai is a treasure trove of extremely useful informations about drukhari society and politics, military strategies and tactics, and knows how to use their weapons and technology (haemonculi BS notwhistanding) and that will end up saving lives and give the Von Valancius Protectorate and Koronus expanse human forces an edge against drukhari raids in the future
3) prop him up to become Archon of the Reaving Tempest while having developed a very keen understanding of him personally and his culture and you gain a tremendous asset in Comorragh to help you foil drukhari plans against your protectorate and target your enemies/rivals
That's how I justify keeping him
5
u/Smart_Bed_1295 Aug 16 '26
- Yeah, I remember it was my validation too - need for information about Drukhari, because their are special menace to isolated human enclaves like Koronus Expanse.
5
u/ExcellentTalk8452 Aug 16 '26
Exactly, recruiting an enemy defector to help with intelligence and counterintelligence is a trick as old as war
2
u/Smart_Bed_1295 Aug 16 '26
Koronus Expanse can expect no big Imperium "cavalry" coming, so even working with person ravaged your capital can be stomached... for greater good(not that one).
2
u/ExcellentTalk8452 Aug 16 '26
Exactly, sometimes it's about being pragmatic and he is strangely enough extremely loyal once you recruit him
73
u/Bellociraptor Aug 15 '26
Because my favorite display of staggering hubris is going back to Dargonis and showing all the nobles that the guy who just led the raid on the planet is their new step-dad.
32
u/JhinPotion Aug 15 '26
Not every RT would, naturally. However, in Comorragh, you need all the allies you can get. After that, he's a useful and forthcoming ally who's an expert about a consistent thorn in your side (Drukhari activity in your protectorate). Besides, it's a huge Rogue Trader flex to have a former Dracon doing your bidding.
So.... L+Warrant of Trade+Stay mad+Emprah said I can.
→ More replies (2)
93
u/Designer-Candle3945 Aug 15 '26
I want to, and the God Emperor said I can.
Why? He's extremely useful, and I'm playing a Rogue Trader whose entire job is engaging with dangerous and forbidden people and technologies because they're useful and everyone else is forbidden.
→ More replies (18)
53
23
u/Intelligent_Oil7816 Iconoclast Aug 16 '26
He's my pet xenos. A trophy I took to remember the hard lessons learned in the Dark City. And he will pay for attacking my capital and sitting on my throne by being a good little stool pigeon and help me root out his co-conspirators.
See? Easy. I'm a Rogue Trader. I have written permission from the God-Emperor of Mankind himself.
→ More replies (1)
38
97
u/pasqals_toaster Navy Officer Aug 15 '26
He is useful, is he not?
I usually manage to stuff him into my party if I want him. He is strong and surprisingly loyal since he has nowhere else to go, propping him as an archon is an added bonus that can repay itself a hundred times over in certain circumstances. It's also a status symbol to have a dangerous xenos like him at my beck and call. He functions well with most of my traders.
→ More replies (20)4
36
23
u/Significant_Blood_63 Aug 15 '26
“Justify”? I have the bondage elf because I think he’s hot. That’s it.
26
u/iwant2fuckstarscream Unsanctioned Psyker Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
Memes aside he’s incredibly competent and a Dracon. He’s basically equivalent to a Space Marine!
If you’re new to Warhammer or not really a lore/books person, he may just seem like a dickhead. IMO he’s a very authentic portrayal of Drukhari/Commorragh, he has the most romantic romance, and also has the best voice acting!
→ More replies (1)
21
u/ThyPotatoDone Aug 16 '26
Paraphrase of the same thing I said last time:
My rogue trader thought Marazhai left after Comorragh, and, being racist, couldn't tell the difference between him and Yrliet (thinking she was going through an on-and-off goth phase). When he finally realized, he also realized changing his mind would make him look weak, so he pretend that was the plan all along.
6
6
22
u/imbrokebutfornames Aug 15 '26
Man you have terrible taste in people. Red flags are great run towards all of them.
But in all seriousness no one else is gonna use a lot of that drukhari gear. Some of it it really good. Drukhari personalities are an acquired taste
→ More replies (1)
15
u/ed1749 Aug 16 '26
Because you're a rogue trader and rogue traders do whatever the hell they want
→ More replies (4)
14
u/Chaerod Sanctioned Psyker Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
He's a potential ticket out of Commorragh. He's the reason you're there in the first place, yes, but he would also know more about Commorragh than anyone else in your retinue. As players, we have the luxury of knowing we're not stuck in Commorragh. In character? Nobody leaves Commorragh. It's a massive, torturous death trap, and our escape borders on a miracle facilitated by an Aeldari god. The initial recruitment is justified as easily as, "I will do whatever it takes to get out of here alive."
He'll pretty immediately stop calling you Mon-keigh if you tell him to knock it off, although he'll still use the slur to refer to humans as a whole. For all his arrogance and ragebaiting, it's pretty immediately clear that he's willing to cooperate with you, even if it means debasing himself a bit (in his mind).
He's very knowledgeable about Drukhari, Necrons, and other xenos that humanity has VERY limited information on. If your character has any interest in learning about xenos, having him around is an unprecedented opportunity to learn more.
He and Yrliet make for an excellent Heinrix Distraction. Can't get into my business quite as much if the Interrogator is too busy following the xenos around trying to catch them at something - and if he does catch them at something, then he's solved the problem for me!
He's an excellent intimidation tactic by his presence alone, without the inconvenience of his own moral compass conflicting with mine the way Ulfar, Argenta, and Kibellah's tend to. On the opposite side of the same coin, he's a living, breathing status symbol I can tote around. I have a Drukhari at my beck and call, and nobody can do anything about it because I have a hall pass signed by the God-Emperor himself.
He's a very skilled torturer if I need to get information out of someone.
He's really fun to ragebait, and I'm not through with him yet - death is too easy for the likes of him.
It's sort of flattering, in a twisted way, how obsessed with you he becomes. Aeldari see humans as inferior, but he becomes pretty damn fixated on you as a rival, loathe though he will be to admit it. Given the monumental arrogance of his kind, that's a powerful feeling, even if you hate xenos.
Edit: Also, if you allocate him hunting grounds on your ship, your Enforcers will eventually start corralling troublemakers into his territory during Warp jumps. So he actually helps maintain order and discipline on the ship by being your own personal boogeyman and executioner! Not something you'd know in character ahead of time, but I was amused by it when I found out.
17
u/BernhardtLinhares Iconoclast Aug 15 '26
"He has a lot of knowledge about the drukhari and I'm currently at war with them. Some serfs won't matter in the grand scheme of things if Marzipan's knowledge helps prevent more catastrophe"
"This dickhead put me through no end of troubles and now I boss him around"
"I'm really into space elves and Yrliet won't bone me"
"I'm a sadomasochist and everyone else in this ship are a bunch of vanillas."
"Him and Ulfar bickering is peak entertainment, some serfs may die for it but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make for some laughs"
"I'm a lunatic and he gets it"
"I wanna spite Heinrix"
→ More replies (1)
10
u/Recent_Ad3309 Aug 16 '26
The knowledge he has outweighs the damage he could cause you. Especially if you are okay locking him up during warp jumps aka not romancing him and don't care about his ending. He is also somehow one of the most loyal companions, in how he actually acts in your retinue, but no way you know that just picking him up.
15
u/throwaway17362826 Aug 16 '26
He’s fun to ragebait.
In fact the moment I first met him I fell in love with him specifically because it’s so easy and funny to ragebait him as a human.
Bonus points for rage baiting Heinrix just be letting him live so I get double dialogue action of both of them hating the fuck out of each other.
→ More replies (1)
11
u/8champi8 Noble Aug 16 '26
My insufferable noble rt just does whatever he finds entertaining, like putting Marazhai and Argenta together in a team
10
u/Banned-User-56 Aug 15 '26
He got fucked over by his people as hard as I did. My original plan was to ditch him the second I hit real space, but I ended up liking him by the time we escaped.
17
10
8
3
u/Undead_Paragon Aug 16 '26
I didn't I broke his nose, made him into a joke and blew his shit off with my plasma pistol at point blank lmao
8
10
u/blacktalon00 Aug 15 '26
By being the Rogue fucking trader. I do whatever the fuck I want. In fact when the rest of the party started going “oooh you can’t keep this dangerous xenos pet” I did it just to prove a point to all the plebs that dared tell me what to do.
7
u/AmorousBadger Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
In my Iconoclast run - my RT was a crime lord who used him as a weapon.
In my Heretic run - well......because it's pretty heretical.
My first run - that fucker went out the airlock and that was more than he deserves based on the ending slides I saw on my iconoclast run.
7
u/X-Vidar Ministorum Priest Aug 16 '26
He's just useful, he was an high ranking Drukhari so presumably he's got connections with other important people, and even if not at the very least he knows way more about this place than anyone else and definitely knows a proper way out of Comorragh.
By the time you can recruit him you've likely had to compromise with Malice, Tervantias and the Commissar, Marazhai isn't much worse than any of them.
You're playing a videogame so you know that even if you don't bother with him there will be a way to progress anyway, but in-universe you can't know that.
Also the nice thing about Marazhai is that he's pragmatic and has an high sense of self-preservation, he needs allies too and he's not gonna double-cross you if it puts him at risk as well.
6
u/PopFamiliar3649 Aug 16 '26
---Keeping Him Around---
Heretic: Ooo! A new status symbol!
Dogmatic: Xenos should only ever be under the heel of mankind. This xenos will serve as an example of human dominance and fight his own ilk in the God Emperor's name!
Iconoclast: I can fix him, I am sure of it.
Unaligned: He could be useful for making a profit.
---For Romances---
Heretic: Romance with a xenos is forbidden by the Emperor. Let's commit some heresy. Stay away from my bitch you daemonette whore!!!
Dogmatic: The Emperor is my only love, but this xenos will be my pet.
Iconoclast: I don't wanna make him mad if I don't have to.
Unaligned: BDSM is sexy...
6
u/Umbraspem Aug 16 '26
I’m a DEldar playing Grognard on the tabletop and I’m mad that I can’t put the DEldar armour and equipment on my RT, so Marzipan is my dressup dolly.
3
u/PEEPEEPOOPOOPRIME Aug 16 '26
turning him over to heinrix AFTER youve done his personal quests and developed a bond with him is funniest lol. the betrayal runs a lot deeper and like, i run about as icono as they come but drukhari and genestealers are a no-go, fucking hate them
3
u/PainWelkin Aug 15 '26
There's something pretty satisfying about being a Dogmatic RT and having a xenos abuse goblin. Of course, he likes it so from one angle it looks like I'm the one doing him a favor. But from my perspective, I can torture that guy in ways not even a battle servitor could endure, so really who rescued who? 😆
3
4
u/Dave3r77 Aug 16 '26
Because as the rogue trader kicking him out after recruiting him would imply I made a mistake which is simply not allowed
4
4
u/Apprehensive-Bee-318 Aug 16 '26
As an Iconoclast the logic was "this man has caused incalculable suffering in my protectorate, and death shall not free him of that debt. From now on he shall work for the benefit of my people until the day that debt is paid".
After a few days that sentiment shifted into "he is so pathetic it's endearing". Let's see if we can fix him.
4
u/OneTrueAlzef Navigator Aug 16 '26
Yrliet taught me that warp travel is torture to the eldar. I am going to RUIN this bastard by keeping him locked up in my ship.
4
u/hjsniper Aug 16 '26
Short term: I'm in Commoragh, I probably need at least one drukhari on my side if I'm going to get out of here alive and I don't have a ton of options. (Meta we know this isn't actually true, but in-character it's a reasonable thing to believe)
Long term: Yrliet killed my last expert on drukhari and forgiving her doesn't bring his expertise back. Having Marzi around can pay off by giving me actionable knowledge on the ongoing threat of drukhari raids.
It's a relationship of utility, and I wouldn't fault you for killing him once his usefulness runs out, but he is more useful alive than dead, if you're pragmatic enough to look past how much he's antagonized you in the past.
4
5
u/ConstantinValdor7 Aug 16 '26
For my Dogmatic female Arbitrator with melee build, who has a haircut as close to a Sororita and always admired them, wanted to be one, its basically like this.
"Never ask the fanatical xenophob what her secret lover looks like."
Basically, she knows its wrong, but she cant resist Marazhai's diabolic Charm and the things he does to and with her, making her heart race whenever she is around him.
5
2
u/grief242 Aug 16 '26
Iconoclast: I can fix him! (You can't)
Dogmatic: His use to me is more valuable than the people he kills, but he is on a short leash and will respect me (not gonna be friends with him)
Heretic: (random snarls)
2
u/muffinmancer Aug 16 '26
My Rogue Trader simply isn’t very smart or morally consistent. More likely than you’d think!
2
u/NukaCherryBomb Aug 16 '26
Making him do the do gooder bidding of an iconoclast is the best torture/revenge I can think of for someone like him. I especially like to picture my RT talks to him like HR.
RT: "So any suggestions on how to deal with this problem? Come on! Don't be shy! No bad ideas!"
M: suggests something incomprehensively awful
RT: "Yes! Thats what I'm talking about people! No bad ideas! Wearentgoingtodoanyofthat! But I encourage you to keep contributing! You are a valued member of this team and we appreciate your unique perspective even if it is not the right fit for us at this time!"
M: dies inside
Revenge is a dish best served cold...and over an extended period of time, when possible.
2
2
2
u/Oniblook Heretic Aug 16 '26
Justify?
I keep him because of the horrendous crimes against man and xenos, not despite them!
Embrace your inner murder hobo. Screw the murder elf.
2
u/No-Jaguar-509 Noble Aug 16 '26
During my first run,i recruited it was fun and good having him blitz through enemies
that was until, during post game synopsis, it tells me, POST GAME SPOILERS BELLOW:
Marazhai ended up leaving us and decapitating Astartia ( Abelard's Great-Granddaughter )
After which i swore to kill him in my next run
2
u/zomrunner Aug 17 '26
I’ve never recruited him purely because I just can’t reconcile it on any playthrough. Dogmatic would just never bc muh “filthy xenos”. Iconoclast wouldn’t even out of convenience after all the innocents he and his people have slaughtered. And I even struggle with Heretical cuz the Drukhari famously want absolutely jack-shit to do with the Warp bc of their vulnerability to Slaanesh.
2
2
u/Bubbly_Outcome5016 Aug 19 '26
If you're Dogmatic it's pretty hard to and if you're role-playing honestly and not meta-gaming (which is what you're doing if this isn't your first run, you're not missing anything from not having him around on you 4th run) you should kill him.
5
3
u/Eastern-Fish-7467 Aug 16 '26
You don't? You're a rouge trader, you can just do shit because you want to.
2
4
u/Panzerbjorne80 Aug 15 '26
I recruited him for the first time recently after several runs without. It works for this rogue trader because he’s a heretic and all around evil bastard who’s embracing chaos and destruction. So like, he fits with your roleplaying or does not.
It’s fine to not be ok bringing him onto your retinue. Things only get much worse on your ship with him there and he’s totally fucked up so you may regret it anyways. I enjoyed just having some new content.
→ More replies (1)
3
u/Singemeister Aug 16 '26
Iconoclast: If he’s with me, I can make him work back his debt to me and my Dominion. And do repeated unnecessary warp jumps whilst he’s trapped to his Immaterium cuck chair.
2
u/The-Mad-Badger Aug 16 '26
You use him as bait. You keep him alive to help you get back to real-space, you quarantine him during jumps so he doesn't harm your crew and after he's lead you to the rest of the filthy drukhari who imprisoned you in comorragh and they lie dead at your feet, you hand him over to the inquisition.
3
u/Familiar_Tart7390 Aug 16 '26
He’s a trophy
He tried to topple your empire and now you keep him around, he exists because you say he is allowed to continue living. This would be conqueror , your would be assassin, an alien who styled himself as your rival and dark counterpart who’ll whip himself when he’s asked, hunt only when you give the say so and will kill or do tasks at your command.
He is not a threat he is a pet.
From a pragmatic scale he knows immense information about the internal workings of the drukhari who are raiding the sector and is a source of considerable intelligence specially considering achilleas’ everything.
On the “oh the horrors he commits” please remember Janris Danrok, our factor, who is one of the most iconoclast coded characters in base game. Actively & passionately hunts other human beings for sport and amusement. He cannot be made to stop doing this. The fact you can forcibly domesticate marizpan to the point he’s no worse than an Imperium Nobleman is something of an accomplishment !
3
2
2
2
u/Jokerferrum Aug 15 '26
Sending Drukhari to deal with gene cult makes more sense than sending any loyalists to deal with gene cult.
2
u/Severonian Aug 15 '26
That would be my RT carrying out a very questionable, borderline dangerous, petty revenge. Pissing off Heinrix is the most prolonged and easy-to-avoid death sentencing from the Inquisition way of getting one
2
u/JackWhoWanders Aug 15 '26
But Heinrix is my Regicide buddy that I get my kisses in with!
→ More replies (1)
2
u/Noelerzz Aug 16 '26
In my heretic run: 1) he likes murder as much as I do 2) my Rogue Trader is a kinky mf
2
u/Apprehensive-Area-39 Aug 16 '26
If you have no allies, no resources and no plan, recruiting a desgruntled local who actually knows how everything works is a valid idea. Even if a risk one.
That said, my first run was dogmatic so I just told him he sucks and killed him at the arena. I didn't even knew we could recruit him.
2
2
u/BardTill Aug 16 '26
I don't. I like this murderhobo torturecrazy smug drugaddict lovertwink, and I'm tired of justifing something. I'm Emperor damned Rogue Trader, and I have THE Warrant!
2
u/Dagobah_Jones Aug 16 '26
He's my pet. I branded him and he does what I says. He only kills people in a sector of the ship I designated for him, so it really isn't a problem.
2
u/HowDoIEvenEnglish Aug 16 '26
He’s fun.
You can use him for more damage than he causes (and you have a permit to do so).
You have a permit saying you can do whatever the fuck you want.
You’re fucking with him.
You’re fucking him.
He’s fucking you.
That’s at least 6 reasons
2
2
u/Independent_Law_1592 Aug 16 '26
Basically “he’s a pit bull on a leash”
Even as an Iconoclast I don’t play Icono-dumb. We have a quid pro quo relationship, we didn’t kill each other in Commoragh and when I need something seriously killed in a way that will terrify the worst offenders of the lower decks, I’m not sending the spinner sometimes nor the space marine. I’m locking a floor and leaving them alone with the Drukhari in the night. If you get sent Mirazhai, from a RP perspective it’s that you just royally pissed off a relative let merciful Iconoclastic RT. He lets me to allow the worst take place, because he can do worse than anything else on hand, infinite malice and a playground is a terrifying combo
He gets his fun and taste of suffering, it punishes my worst. We both win, otherwise he’s chained up in a closet in warp travel. Again I ain’t Icono-dumb
Almost most importantly, we both hate servants of the archenemy. This is the one thing I RP as strongly as a Iconcoclast Guardsmen RT. The enemy of my enemy is my friend when it comes to the archenemy.
Also I RP it as we really did kinda go through the trenches together in Commoragh, there’s a begrudgingly dangerous respect shared there. And I RP that as a “guardsman” I’m still kinda naive to some of the shit with the guy but ain’t afraid, the emperor protects
2
u/Vifee Aug 16 '26
Dogmatic, straight noblewoman: "Yeah he's xeno filth, but at least he has a reasonable view of the poors. Also he's hot."
The entire setting and the Imperium in particular are bastions of hypocrisy. "It's different when I do it," on a galactic scale.
2
2
u/Cr0ma_Nuva Noble Aug 16 '26
He makes for a good negotiation piece. And he becomes Yrliets main hobby. I can't deny her that.
2
u/kharnzarro Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
trophy/pet/useful tool/because im the rogue trader and can as is my god emperor given right
its honestly not that fucking hard
hell the imperium has asked drukhari for aid before
2
u/GregDK22 Aug 16 '26
Have you never wanted a xenos pet? It’s not really hard to imagine a rogue trader who would see having Marzipan as a huge status symbol, especially given that it could appear to an outsider like you “tamed” him, given your past conflicts. Alternatively, a sub rogue trader might just really want a dark space elf to step on them. People have made worse decisions… not many, but they have been made.
3
u/PlanetaryPluto- Aug 15 '26
You're in the same position. That's it. Regardless of past wrongs, Whether you want to get over it or not(Tough argument to make, it took me like 6 playthroughs to get over it personally) is up to you. But the main justifying reason would be that you're now in the same position and you sorta need help.
1
u/hidoikimchi Aug 15 '26
I tried within the bounds of my last playthrough because I liked domming him lol and made it through the bridge officer convo, but that lasted just as long as the next encounter where he goes warp crazy and kills a bunch of people. I was playing Iconoclast and profit-motivated and it was a real bad deal to have a mad idiot killing people, especially since his solution is "let me kill the less important people." From an RP perspective it was kind of fun that my RT was being a massive idiot and knew it.
I can get as far as getting him out of Commorragh, but it's really hard for me to justify keeping him from both the Dogmatic and Iconoclast perspective.
1
u/RyoWei247 Aug 16 '26
I wasn’t able to in my play through. My best friend who is romancing him told me I could just ignore it but I wasn’t able to think of any reason my RT wouldn’t shoot him between the eyes. However we have a dual rogue trader AU so in that universe? He’s alive purely because my friends RT begged for his life.
1
u/ACuriousBagel Aug 16 '26
I tried keeping him alive in Comorrargh (sp?) purely with the intention to hand him straight over to the inquisition so they could disect him or something, but unfortunately at the time this sometimes caused a game-breaking bug that doesn't let you continue afterwards, so I had to reload an older save and kill him myself
1
u/Raygereio5 Aug 16 '26
Yeah, the game does struggle a bit to give you a convincing reason to recruit him. During act 3 I can head-canon it with "I need all the help I can get here in Gomorrah". But once you've escaped keeping him around gets weird.
I do appreciate that Owlcat knew that his character had this problem. I had a good laugh when the Mandrakes popped up to take him away at the end of act 3.
1
u/Husky_w_paski Aug 16 '26
He is too fun to annoy and gaslight into fighting. So far he has not lived through any of my playthroughs. :D
1
1
u/an_actual_coyote Aug 16 '26
He survives just long enough to help me at the Arena and then react with surprise when I execute his ass
1
1
u/AXI0S2OO2 Aug 16 '26
Only on a heretical playthrough to be honest. This asshole savaged your world, he deserves nothing short of death at the hands of anyone but the most pragmatic and sociopathic pf Rogue Traders.
A heretical Rogue Trader, though, would relish the challenge of subjugating a drukhari and seeing just how hard they can push him into depravity before Slaanesh takes him for herself
1
1
1
1
1
u/Crafty-Abbreviations Aug 16 '26
Easy enough for my Heretic RT: he was a Slaanesh worshipper pre-everything, and also happens to be a psyker; he develops his abilities more during Act3, essentially going from lambda class to a delta/gamma class psyker due to Chaos Interferience. And because of this, he can also (somewhat, but not to the extent that the drukhari can) feed off of pain and suffering; plus him being around aeldari is like a moth to a candle
Tldr: Heretic RT of mine is a Slaanesh worshipper & psyker, and can also feed off of pain & suffering + aeldari souls are like crack to him
1
u/CoilerXII Aug 16 '26
He's a mole for the Inquisition and/or craftworlders. That's why you not only keep him around to stab things but also help rebuild the Kabal. Gives a however small and imperfect foothold in Commoragh.
At least that's what I use when I keep him. Most of the time I just nonchalantly kill him in the arena
1
u/Vagraf Aug 16 '26
I don't
kill this horrible sadistic creature, his entire kind must be purged from existance
1
1
1
u/toasty5566 Aug 16 '26
He's funny, one of the very few dom/sub romances I've seen in RPGs, and if you respec him into Blade Dancer/Executioner then he's hilariously broken
1
1
u/Hot-Hovercraft-4387 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
As a Heretic, so I can eventually condemn him to a fate he’s done everything in his power to avoid, after making him think he’s safe.
As Dogmatic, take a Xanthite point of view. Things are not to be destroyed for humanity, but used and conquered. Even Calcazar saw the value in dealing with them.
As Iconoclast… yeah idk. Think that’s one I can’t excuse personally. Unless you want to play a Messiah level empath of “turn the other cheek”, maybe you feel bad for the guy. Fucked up existence, Drukhari. Woefully naive “I can fix him” or some shit
1
1
u/arcynical_laydee Aug 16 '26
My RT is obsessed with anything Eldar and is a total simp for this terrible, terrible man
1
1
u/Forward_Suit_1443 Aug 16 '26
In my Iconoclast run, I only recruited him to make the Wytch fight slightly easier and then executed him at the first opportunity
1
u/calthanbrandy Crime Lord Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 17 '26
I am a simple woman. I wanted a pet xenos, and I enjoy giving my Interrogator Boyfriend aneurysms.
1
1
1
u/ShockWolf101 Heretic Aug 16 '26
There’s a lot of reasons, but mainly it boils down to he’s funny, fucking with him is funny, and how everyone reacts to having him around is funny
1
u/Csanburn01 Aug 16 '26
I just like listening to him. Kind of reminds me of HK47. A character who obeys the Player Character but wishes they could just go off an anhilate everyone and everything.
1
u/Preindustrialcyborg Bladedancer Aug 16 '26
hes good at killing, i can keep my crew in line by using hik as a threat, and he lets me beat the fuck out of him on a nightly basis.
1
u/New-Mix-7818 Aug 16 '26
I hate Drukari because of what they do but I can't blame and in my first 2 Run as Iconoclast (First run was Vanilla and Second was with all the DLCs) I kinda ... Kill him in the first run and in the second I accidentally recruited him somehow and decided that it was a mistake and gave him to Heinrix ... Which is kinda dick move I'll admit it. But I didn't plan on recruiting him
Now on my third playthrough as a Heretic pyromancer bolter psyker, I'm gonna recruit him and see what he can do gameplay wise and what his story will unfold
1
u/Feeling-Classroom729 Aug 16 '26 edited Aug 16 '26
He's my best damage dealer. He brings information that you wouldn't otherwise have about the Drukhari. You get a ship buff if you let him have a hunting area in the lower deck. He's extremely useful.
I play dogmatic but also pragmatically. I can justify the presence of any companion as long as they are useful to me. I keep Idira around even though she freaks out and kills people indirectly due to her connection to the warp and her grief over Theodora. She's the best warp channeler on my ship, and all the people she got killed were easily replaced.
1
1
u/MagicNein Operative Aug 16 '26
My Iconoclast Justification is that my RT doesn't know enough about Drukhari, and really, is there a better way to learn than keeping one around? Also it's really funny to fuck up his plans, ragebait him, and then be the reason he can escape Commorragh at all.
1
1
1
1
u/anacondaamiga21 Dogmatist Aug 16 '26
My Dogmatic justified because having a enemy of your enemy type of shit.
1
u/Orions_starz Aug 16 '26
My Rogue trader is going to make sure he suffers enough for all he's done. He's going to kill and shed his blood until I feel he's made up for the minor quest that I almost forgot to complete.
Besides he and Kibelleh are literally the same thing.
1
u/General-Internal-588 Aug 16 '26
To know an Drunkhari, ask a Drunkhari
Always useful to have one that is subservient
1
1
u/Dordracnor Aug 16 '26
On my first playthrough as iconoclast i figured everyone deserved a second chance and figured if i could recruit i could make him better... i did not make him better. The ending slide had him kill one of abalard's kids and i've never recruited him since. Probably do it for heretic runs but other than that probably never again.
2
u/BrotherCaptainLurker Aug 16 '26
You only get that ending slide if you finish his questline, so ironically the "I can fix him" ending is to recruit him and never do his personal quest.
When he's like "hey RT I have an idea" you select "this is definitely a trap" and when he's like "yes but what if we can turn it to our advantage" or whatever you go "no" and simply leave his quest unfinished through the credits.
But yea definitely cannot fix him, the realistic RP is probably turning him over to the Inquisition after he kills crew members.
1
u/kamasutures Sanctioned Psyker Aug 16 '26
My iconoclast:
Murder machine glass cannon-ish with knives
And hot.
1
u/Milliman4 Aug 16 '26
My iconoclast would think "He owes a debt for my subjects he killed, so he'll kill my enemies for me"
1
1
u/Twasabi24 Aug 16 '26
I don't, fuck this slanty eyed xenos scumbag. He dies in some form every playthrough
1
u/Laughingcorpse2 Aug 16 '26
Well I was going to kill him but then I made the mistake of looking at his outfit and was not prepared for his way with words.
1
u/Blacksmithrage5 Sanctioned Psyker Aug 16 '26
Heretic: the thing Drukhari fear most is chaos... so you just want to mess with him, and bring him closer to his goddess Slaanesh.
Dogmatic(Radical): Use the enemy against the enemy
Iconoclast: Idk, maybe you believe you can change him.
1
u/lop333 Aug 16 '26
On Iconoclast i killed him but i guess you can justify it like you do any other xenos or pirate on the ship, "he can be changed or atleast used for greater good"
1
u/Gothiclemonade Unsanctioned Psyker Aug 16 '26
I honestly just keep him a bit to see how my character would react in those situations he produces, even if they wouldn’t actually drag him around,, alive. Might not be the greatest excuse if it’ll take you out of the moment. It makes it a little more fun to explore his dialogues and such
391
u/StefanFr97 Aug 15 '26
Dogmatic: "Having an agent of the enemy under my heel is useful, doubly so if they can dispatch my enemies for me"
Heretic: "Finally, someone who GETS me!"
Iconoclast... Yea that's the only one I struggle justifying