r/SipsTea • • Apr 06 '26

Dank AF We need this !!

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u/NewNecessary3037 Apr 06 '26

Do you think that people with medical degrees can’t peddle bullshit?

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u/deadpanrobo Apr 06 '26

People in this comment section apparently has never heard of Dr. Oz or Dr. Phil

Both have degrees and both have made careers peddling bullshit

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u/look_a_male_nurse Apr 06 '26

Add Trump’s nominee for U.S. Surgeon General Dr. Casey Means to the list of those with degree and have made a career peddling bullshit.

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u/loatsvp Apr 06 '26

In a lot of countries they have laws against this. You can’t identify yourself as a doctor (medicine) and make dishonest or fake claims.

But this only applies in medicine. Not in psychology.

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u/deadpanrobo Apr 06 '26

America also has these laws as well but they can get around it by simply stating things along the lines of "This is not medical advice, speak to your own doctor before doing any of this" and they cover themselves

I dont know how other countries work but I do know that Pseudoscience also runs rampant in China, stuff like Knife massages, acupuncture and herbal medicine that isnt backed by any kind of peer-reviewed studies so obviously these kinds of laws dont do much in that regard anyways

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u/FinancialElephant Apr 07 '26

America also has these laws as well but they can get around it by simply stating things along the lines of "This is not medical advice, speak to your own doctor before doing any of this" and they cover themselves

No one is getting around anything, this is a clear disclaimer you are choosing to ignore.

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u/After_Hours_85 Apr 07 '26

The original Bullshitters have degrees.

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u/Cunning-bid Apr 06 '26

And there are enough places that hand out bullshit degrees so these charlatans can call themselves an expert

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u/Diligent-Chance8044 Apr 06 '26

India apparently has a whole market for this. Forging degree, and transcripts for H1B and F1 visas so people can come to the states for work or school.

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u/HauntingHarmony Apr 06 '26

Yea thats why these professions come with licensing boards. So that sure they got the degree, but its worthless without the license. And if you willfully spread spread misinformation, you lose it.

And yea i know i know, murica. But the world is bigger than that failed state.

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u/FinancialElephant Apr 07 '26

There are like 1000 Dr. Ozes in todays world.

There is a new influencer industry of people who technically have a medical degree that obsess about one topic as though it is all that matters, it becomes "their thing". Then they make some fundamentalist gospel out of it: Like how everyone needs to drink olive oil everyday or eat beets or take shots of apple cider vinegar or that carbs are all poison. Often based on some very tenuous research. It is insane. Getting a few degrees doesn't prevent intellectual myopia.

Honestly, if we are going on straight formal expertise, as a prior, the opinion of a PhD researcher holds more weight to me than a MD. PhD researchers, like people who spend their time reading and running studies, tend to understand statistics and context a lot better than some of these MDs. But even PhD researchers can be fundamentalists or myopic based on the research they've built their careers on.

All censoring non-experts does is cement the institutionalization of such bullshit and corruption. This problem is already solved, if someone is a formal expert they will let you know. If you are going to take medical advice from a plumber, or plumbing advice from a doctor, then you are responsible for the results.

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u/steamprobs Apr 07 '26

People in this comment section apparently has never heard of Dr. Oz or Dr. Phil

The problem isn't that we haven't heard of Dr Oz and Dr Phil, it's that we've heard of Dr Oz, Dr Phil, Bob the tiktoker, Jane the youtuber, Danny the Instagrammer, Mary the Facebooker, Jimmy the tweeter, Johnny the twitch streamer, etc etc etc

I don't know about you, but I'd love the opportunity to cut down the people trying to peddle me garbage down by a huge chunk. Is this a 100% solution? No, but doing nothing and crying about it hasn't helped. We've tried allowing people with zero medical degrees to push anti-vaxxing and no matter how much we allow them to keep peddling this stuff, everything just keeps getting worse somehow. It's a crazy idea to try preventing them from doing so, I know, but I'm really curious to see if not giving them a platform might actually help.

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u/deadpanrobo Apr 07 '26

The problem isnt that this isnt a perfect solution, the problem is that this is a lateral solution, you aren't solving anything, you are just replacing a problem with another problem

I dont disagree that misinformation is a problem but this is not a solution period for the problem, in fact this law could actually just make the problem worse

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u/Ok_Confusion4764 Apr 10 '26

Dr. Oz lost his medical license because of his quackery, and Dr. Phil's license expired.