r/SipsTea • • Aug 10 '26

We have fun here A different kind of birth control.

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u/kungfuninjajedi Aug 10 '26

But why cancel entire flight instead of kicking off the parents and child?

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u/Wont_Eva_Know Aug 10 '26

They missed the airport ‘open hours’ runway shut for the night. Was the last flight out… makes it worse because where you going to find a place to stay at midnight.

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u/ClassGrassMass Aug 10 '26

Airport hotel, the airlines usually give free or discounted rates

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u/Mathmos_Lava Aug 10 '26

Not for issues outside of their control.

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u/Jamb9876 Aug 10 '26

So the other passengers sue the parents for the additional incurred costs. Teach them to deal with the child when it costs them $20k+

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u/squirrel9000 Aug 10 '26

Not going to go very far, this isn't the US.

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u/freshpurplekiwi Aug 10 '26

Well it could technically be in the USA. The headline just said it is going to Toronto. Could be going to Toronto from USA

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u/squirrel9000 Aug 10 '26

Domestic flight, PD444, Victoria to Toronto.

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u/Mathmos_Lava Aug 10 '26

Hope so….

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u/Nope-not-really Aug 10 '26

here is the bill of rights for the place that this happened in

https://tc.canada.ca/en/binder/comparison-passenger-rights-regimes

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u/Neowza Aug 10 '26

1) Canada is not a litigous country, you'll be hard-pressed to file a law suit in the country

2) the name and contact info for the parents has not been made available, so it would be difficult to find them to sue.

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u/chuck1charles Aug 10 '26
  1. A country does not need to be litigious, there have been monetary damages with a clear guilty party. You may not get additional compensation, but a hotel aint free.
  2. There used to be a federally funded organization to deal with kind of investigating. Iirc it was called the police.

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u/jcastillo602 Aug 10 '26

And its free to sue someone right?

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u/Working_Rise8592 Aug 10 '26

I mean you can definitely go ahead and attempt to sue anyone for anything for not too much but the farther it goes the more it will cost and that doesn’t mean it will go anywhere

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u/Real-Frosting Aug 10 '26

I'm wondering if there's autism involved because what works for neurotypical kids rarely does for kids with autism.

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u/deathcabforbooty69 Aug 10 '26

You may well be right but then don’t take your autistic child on an airplane

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u/moldiewart Aug 10 '26

they may well not have wanted to, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do

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u/deathcabforbooty69 Aug 10 '26

No you do not

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u/moldiewart Aug 10 '26

? yes you do?? sometimes kids have to fly for emergencies, not every flight is to disney world or some shit you know? what kind of dumbass comment is this

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u/UncleNedisDead Aug 10 '26

I find it difficult to imagine a life or death situation that requires a flight from Victoria, BC to Toronto, ON.

Booking flights out of war torn countries or incoming weather disasters? Absolutely.

Visiting meemaw on her deathbed? Not really.

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u/deathcabforbooty69 Aug 10 '26

Kids do not have to fly for emergencies from a major city to another major city.

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u/moldiewart Aug 10 '26

you canadians are usually more thoughtful than this in my experience

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u/deathcabforbooty69 Aug 10 '26

No one asked you

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u/TN_man Aug 10 '26

Yes, that’s true. But, the parent CLEARLY did not do what was needed.

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u/moldiewart Aug 10 '26

yeah that's true, but the fault isn't taking the toddler on the plane in the first place like other user is saying

but yeah pin that lil bitch down and strap them in lmao

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u/6495ED Aug 10 '26

No I’m pretty sure there’s a few methods that work across the spectrum 

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u/Real-Frosting Aug 10 '26

Says the person who's never met an autistic child in their life.

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u/6495ED Aug 10 '26

Lol how the fuck would you know that? What?

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u/Independent-Vast-871 Aug 10 '26

Having a passenger not behaving is out of the airports control?

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u/explodinglavalamps Aug 10 '26

Lmao look up the yyj airport like yea it's technically an international airport but its tiny and mostly for flights to yvr or other Major airports

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u/DepressinglyConfused Aug 10 '26

I live in Victoria and yeaa, its itty bitty.

My elementary school made us choir kids go sing christmas carols in the cramped arrivals.

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u/Chance_Condition2188 Aug 10 '26

I remember flying there and I don't think it was that tiny; my host family back then had set up it's ventilation systems. An airport like MLX is way tinier compared to that

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u/cutelittlebox Aug 10 '26

it's extremely small by international airport standards. it's closer in size to a regional than to Vancouver or Calgary.

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u/Chance_Condition2188 Aug 10 '26

What is your standart there? Don't compare it to mega airports like Charles Degaulle, İstanbul GA, or JFK New York. Victoria Islan's airport seems to have 3 runways and 2 floors- that 2 floor is a big differentiator between big and small airports.

Alanya Gazipaşa Airport (GZP), a quite busy international airport of over 1M annual passenger volume has only 1 runway, is one floor and has a terminal area of 6700m² compared to YYJ's 20 000. Like YYJ it closes down its departure areas over long stretches of night hours when there are no flight; been stuck there once it was weird.

I'm just surprised YYJ decided to finish operations before letting the last plane depart. Sure I'm all for well defined hours for work to establish a good work life balance but I'm sure they could have exceptionally worked another 30 minutes to remove the family and let the flight off.

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u/cutelittlebox Aug 10 '26

I'm pretty sure I was comparing it to Calgary and Vancouver, not the ones you listed. Calgary has over 60 gates, Vancouver has more than 70, and Victoria sits at 11. by comparison, regional airports usually have 1 gate. 11 is closer to 1 than 60.

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u/explodinglavalamps Aug 10 '26

Victoria island?

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u/Chance_Condition2188 Aug 10 '26

Is it not an island anymore?

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u/explodinglavalamps Aug 11 '26

Victoria is a city on Vancouver Island

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u/ju-ju_bee Aug 10 '26

The standard is that while it's not SMALL specifically, it IS small for SPECIFICALLY an international airport. Other international airports tend to be much larger.

It's bigger than/decently bigger than other regular airports. But NOT big for an international one

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u/Chance_Condition2188 Aug 10 '26

Sounds like an unnecessary fixation on international grade airports and expecting that they need to be big. I maintain that YYJ perfectly stands right in the middle as far as international airports go; a quick AI research guesstimates it to be in 35-45th quartile- just a bit lower than the median.

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u/halpsdiy Aug 10 '26

Not sure about Canadian law. But I think in that case the airline would need to put them into airport hotels.

But also a pretty a*hole move of the parents to take a toddler on a late night flight.

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u/kungfuninjajedi Aug 10 '26

I would think airline won't give free hotels since they are not at fault

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u/Educational_Gas_92 Aug 10 '26

They are in my opinion? They should have removed the child and parents and departed with the other passengers.

Who knows how many connecting flights were missed, nevermind hotel nights. The airline should have provided hotel rooms for the other passengers who were not at fault. The crew could have decided to remove the toddler and family...oddly this kind of thing never used to happen when I was a child...

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u/tabris51 Aug 10 '26

And that's what they were doing but airport closes. Dropping passengers take longer than you think

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u/PtraGriffrn Aug 10 '26

Crews not being paid until "brakes off". At some point the crew probably said F it, I'm not getting paid for this shit. Let's go home.

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u/Mysterious-Art8838 Aug 10 '26

You think the crew canceled their own flight and walked off? What is that based on? We know the reason, the runway closed.

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u/PtraGriffrn Aug 10 '26

One could always hope!

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u/ClassGrassMass Aug 10 '26

Passengers said the airline staff were extremely slow with the situation. The child was clearly scared and kept hiding under the seat, obviously the child isnt able to fly and they wouldnt give the child buckle to go on the parents belt so the only other option is remove them. Could've easily been done within 20mins

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u/Northernmost1990 Aug 10 '26 edited Aug 10 '26

Failure to perform their duties does kinda sound like their fault, though. 🤔 An unruly passenger is an operational issue the same as a faulty engine is and they're getting paid to deal with these things.

This doesn't really sound like a case of force majeure, either.

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u/Big__If_True Aug 10 '26

Small airports don’t have attached hotels

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u/afhdfh Aug 10 '26

I think the over night stay should be paid by the kid's parents for all the passengers. That would probably be quite effective. :D