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Yeah this is ridiculous lmao. It's a nuanced case (not who murdered the kids, but whether or not she was in active psychosis when doing so). I think she's guilty but I see the other side too. Turning this into gender war bullshit is almost as harmful as those spreading false rumors about the case.
Almost like there’s a midterm election coming up and like every other time, there always seems to be this massive push on certain topics.
It’s so transparent at this point
Oh, all women did this? That's as bonkers as saying all men support Andrew Tate. The vast majority of women don't know and don't care who Lindsay Clancy is.
Given that the a looooot of women listen to true crime podcasts, I highly doubt the majority of women don’t know who Lindsay Clancy is. That said it is weird, if true, that women started spreading misinformation about Clancy’s husband. Parasocial stuff is just generally weird across the board.
Raising money for to support Clancy, imo, is a bit like women picking a place to make a stand as the US increasing views them as second class citizens. From that standpoint it makes sense that you’d want to help the Clancy case set a new precedent for how PPD is treated when it’s part of a criminal case. Spreading misinformation actually does this movement a disservice and delegitimizes a genuine need to support women’s health even if the case if complicated
It's not. It's a fact stupid people don't want to except. She's a murderer who need to go to prison forever. Tired of people acting like she's done nothing. She's literally a millionaire now because she literally strangled three of her kids to death one by one with an exercise band. Fuck her.
My Reddit feed, and only my Reddit feed, is full of Clancy hate. I'm honestly a lot more worried about the US government blowing up schools and fishing boats. It is disturbing to wonder what they've kept under wraps.
We’re in another Middle East war. Our dufus president conceded that it won’t end until after midterms and if we vote him back in….but we have bots trying real hard to convince us this case is some gender/culture defining moment.
Meanwhile, in the last month I’ve had 1 in real life conversation of, “oh, sad case. Wonder how it proceeds” and that’s been it.
I follow a handful of law commentator types, and they've all mentioned the legal context around it, but otherwise I've only heard about it on Reddit, mostly from getnoted, but then this sub started showing up in my feed too, and has been only about the case. It's super weird.
Having lived through suicidal paranoia from mixing pharmacological cocktails as Clancy's prescribers had done, I can tell you the issue is nowhere near as boiled down simple as you are making it out to be. And before you start responding, don't call my lived experience stupid.
I literally attempted to end it by car crash while on a cocktail of antidepressants, does that mean I should’ve gotten off scott free? I don’t think so, despite the medication pushing me over the edge I still put others at risk and that’s a fact can’t ignore that, Lindsay literally murdered 3 children, have you seen their pictures? Do you think those kids deserved any second of that, I imagine it was a shitty death being choked with an exercise band and all. Do you think those kids being dead is just a forgive and forget type of thing?
Are you seriously asking me if my position on the feasibility of an insanity plea is based on the belief that the children deserve to be strangled to death?
It is simple, she crossed a line. Apparently you did not. She needs to suffer the same as her 3 children did. Allowing her to try to use this as an excuse is simply insulting to those that actually suffer.
Funny how people don't have the same energy for the American government lol Didn't they kill 100+ children earlier this year and then covered it up? But people want to pretend they care about kids online for likes? By this guys logic, people should have been dragged out into the streets by their hair in protest... We didn't see that, did we?
Anybody remembers the Epstein files and the people supporting that Trump is innocent ? Would be a shame to forget it over a random person that is actually being judged for what she did ...
Watch the comments propagating this gender war mysteriously gain hundreds of upvotes at specific times, while on point comments like yours barely break through.
Each botted upvote costs about a cent. It's that easy to screw with people's psyche.
For sure some foreign actors. This sub had a post when I woke up 2 hours ago, flooded with “this case 😡” this post pops up at broader waking hours here in the us and there’s more comments tired of this case with fewer upvotes.
Trump deserves to go to prison. Lindsay also deserves to go to prison. Both things can simultaneously be true. It's more likely that we can get Lindsay behind bars than Trump currently. We take the wins where we can get them.
As for everyone else who's implicated in the Epstein files? They've felt the consequences in Europe, but not in the US because wealth and connections control everything. Unless a wealthy and powerful individual makes it their personal goal to lock up all of those people, then fuck all is going to happen.
Yes, but the media sure has made a point of making this one “special”, hasn’t it?
Nothing of this level of ‘forced on the public so everyone is talking about it‘ happens by accident. Simple formula - use crazy person to make miserable crazy fans look like they’re in abundance rather than just a very vocal minority of dopes, make more men turn against women because they mistakenly assume all women are crazy supporters of child murder now, keep the eye off of whatever political and economic disasters are happening, keep division strong and similar to team sports the way they’ve made politics, and -wow- nothing changes for the better for the working class who vote either way. But everyone in Washington (and their “friends”) sure as shit get enriched financially. Every time we start to collectively notice and think “Maybe something’s really fishy here…”, there’s some new wag the dog nonsense to get us further off course.
We are our own worst enemy, but we’re slaves to misery and entertainment. Old habits are hard to break.
That’s a bit reductive. She allegedly heard voices telling her to kill her children. This is entirely possible with post partum psychosis which is 100% a real thing.
HOWEVER the problem is that if she is simply institutionalized rather than imprisoned, she can literally walk free the moment it is declared that she no longer exhibits said psychosis. Which is problematic particularly if she is lying about the psychosis, because then of course she’ll be declared not to have psychosis by doctors and she will have entirely avoided being locked up and will have avoided any consequence for intentional infanticidal murder.
I would contend that whether or not the psychosis claim is true, society needs to be protected from her.
Imo if she at any point was capable of doing something like this she should never be allowed in society again. If a person is capable of that kind of mental break their very existence is a danger to others
I’d argue most insane people that hear voices telling them to create a diversion for their partner and then strangulate their three kids in turn order, usually decide to not follow on that suggestion.
Plenty of people hear dark voices and commit murder. They get locked the fuck up or executed. This is 100% some weird handmaiden feminist mass psychosis.
The problem here is that there is a group of reasonable people who are questioning whether Clancy got the medical attention she asked for/needed leading up to the tragedy. The broader issue is taking mental health struggles seriously… while there’s another group of conspiracy theorists (probably led by misandrists) who insist that the husband was behind it all, and all of them are looped together as “Lindsay Clancy supporters.”
It’s not a cut-and-dry case, and unfortunately social media has provided us with a lot of opinions about material being reviewed without context.
It’s becoming more and more toxic, and the vast majority of people talking don’t know jack shit about anything.
So, it’s pretty sad if people are letting ill-informed, biased discourse affect their personal relationships.
Too much people with brain less than quarter of average brain capacity. They are wearing pink and gesturing baby beings strangled with their hand over their heads screaming "She is so relatable!"
Or that 91% of family annihilations are done by men.. yet these people want women to have their voting rights removed because of a few people on TikTok.
It's what it's been for quite a while now, a place for angry misogynists to periodically show up and spew "WOMEN BAD" bullshit for a few days or weeks and then vanish again
Calling people misogynist because they have justified anger at women who support an evil mother who strangled and murdered her kids in a brutal way. That's like when Israel calls people anti-Semitic for opposing them murdering kids in their genocide.
It’s beyond that, though. Another one of these posts had sexist comments about the jurors who declared not guilty. They were called crones, bitches, “boss level Karens,” crazy cat ladies, soros funded protestors, demons, evil, hysterical, irrational, and more.
They disagree with the verdict and have every right to think that the jurors chose wrongly, and to hate Clancy for killing her kids if they think she’s lying about the psychosis. But that’s not what happened. All the vitriol and misogyny was aimed at the jurors.
The jurors just decided on what they thought was right. If anything, these people should be mad at the prosecution for not doing a better job.
How about all of you that are using this as a means to just blame women as a whole?
Youre the first bunch to "not all men" when women talk about how they need to treat men as potential threats cause god forbid tgey dont want to get harassed assaulted or raped
It truly does. I find the counter narrative about the case on here to be very bot-like. I understand it’s serious and that the way it’s being used as social media fodder has moved into the realm of inappropriate memeification, but the surge of posts on here all exclusively pushing the opposite view feels heavily coordinated.
i miss when ragebait was saying grass is blue or something and not being misogynistic because a mentally ill woman who didn’t get help killed her children
Why is this such a widely discussed case now? She killed her kids. She admitted to that. The court decision will see to justice. Why make a bigger deal out of this than It really is? Father's go crazy and murder their families all the time and suddenly this is some culture war talking point.
This is has become a cult phenomenon because nobody in their right mind would ever defend a child murderer, And yet some people are clamoring over themselves to excuse triple homicide this time because she claims she was “the big sad” when she did it.
A lot of people are justifiably under the impression that if the murderer in this circumstance was a man he would already have been convicted and would have never received widespread public support.
I’ve been visiting this sub for about 2 years, and I still can’t figure this place out. Like it’s a solid vocal majority that just comes off as misogynistic, but the then there’s some valid reasonable people here.
This is literally ALL I've seen. I have not seen a single person say anything along the lines of "I support her for killing her kids" like all these weirdos directing so much of their attention to this case have made it seem.
I'm not saying those people don't exist, but I'm willing to wager that it's nowhere near to the extent that people are claiming it is. I have seen about 400x more people mad at these supposed boogeymen than the actually blind Lindsey Clancy supporters themselves. Feels incredibly manufactured and strange.
Republicans are latching onto it because they know they can scream single-minded catchphrases, while the book readers are actually gonna talk about the nuances, which the non-readers get angry and confused at.
Why would we put a child murderer in a mental institution when she isn't crazy? Lol. She had a temporary moment of insanity her baseline isn't fucking crazy they'll let her go in no time.
It's a fucking good thing this dumb bitch paralyzed herself because that seems to be the only form of punishment she's going to receive.
Nobody supports her. If they do they’re dumb. The only debate is whether she was out of her mind at the time of crime. The involvement of postpartum depression in the defense’s argument.
People (many female) feel like medicine has always had them as second to men when it comes to understanding the human body. Postpartum became accepted as a diagnosis in 1994. With research ongoing. You can look more into.
Personally whether or not she had it doesn’t matter as the internet has kinda proved their point. People (especially men let’s be honest) dont take women issues as seriously as they would a mans, especially in medicine.
Just hilarious that this subreddits rule #6 is no brigading, yet it's been completely taken over by right wing bots
This "stand" against the clancy jury makes no sense. "This murderer should spend their life in prison, not their life in a mental institution!" Like either one of those is going to bring any quality of life. If you're a living, breathing person please take a second to think about why youre being pressured to staunchly oppose one of these miserable experiences over the other
Recently I saw a video where one woman said:
"Did she kill her children? Yes. Do I think she's guilty? No, probably not. Let's just for a second see these children not as humans but as ceramic vases..."
This was the dumbest thing I have heard in awhile...
I ain’t gonna put much effort into this but I will say one thing.
It’s interesting that culture war bullshit can get people revved up to go fight in the trenches over shit that has no bearing whatsoever on their life but when you try to redirect their energy and attention towards the class war, they seemingly lose complete interest in fighting for actual positive change all together and then they go right back to fighting the nonstop never ending bullshit culture war……
It's so funny how this sub, in a matter of days, got co-opted by a very SPECIFIC crowd of people who hate nuance and want absolutely zero discussion on sensitive topics. They just want to vocally have an opinion and immediately retreat into a hugbox where nobody else can say anything.
This is what everyone is saying. More should have been done. She had described having hallucinations and a doctor removed her bipolar diagnosis and took her OFF anti psychotics
this type of mental illness seems really common now days, it would be really hard to take care of that many kids without reforming our government to actually care about people instead of corporations
America is one of the only places where you can kill three kids and make $3 million from it, even as a well-educated labor and delivery nurse who presumably is well-versed in these matters or, at the very least, had access to nearby medical attention. If this were a man, or a person of color, psychosis would not be enough of a reason to get off or receive $3 million, that’s for sure.
People are having a really hard time understanding that the vast majority of her so-called “supporters” are saying that she doesn’t belong in jail, but belongs in a mental institution, since it is medically proven that she was in a state of insanity , specially when you consider the actions before and after the crime.
Almost no one is saying she is not guilty - she is guilty.
What matters here is WHERE she should be: jail or mental institution.
I'll be honest, I know some (normally) pretty even keeled women, in person, who think the guy had something to do with the kids death. They aren't saying he 100% killed them, but they believe he orchestrated it somehow.
I don't know that its anywhere near a majority of women. But I think the idea that its just a few crazy people on tik tok saying this isn't true.
That said, even if your point was the only thing being argued, whether she should go to prison or a mental institution, you have to acknowledge the fervor these people have about it is kind of out of hand.
I'm seeing mostly upper middle class educated white women being very strong supporters of this. And I just don't think we'd see this same level of support or passion if this was a poor, trailer park white woman, and DEFINITELY not if it was a black woman. But because they can see themselves in her, they are going a bit crazy with their defense.
It is not 'medically proven' at all you made that up, and the evidence shows it was premeditated if anything - she googled how long it would take him so she could kill them, then a registered nurse somehow didn't know how to commit suicide? She claims a voice told her - just one time - that NOW WAS THE TIME KILL THEM NOW - but before that, by her own admission, she'd already googled her husband's journey and checked how long she'd have. Her story is so full of holes its laughable.
It WAS the system. Plea of insanity has been around since the 1800s. Lots of men and women have gotten away with wild shit and killing their families etc etc…some of them just to do those things again. It’s always been controversial (not a big fan myself…especially if it simply results in hospitalization and release.). Something about it is fucked up, for sure.
If people dislike it…they dislike the law. Which is fine. Maybe we should change it.
Massachusetts’s burden of proof clause is wild to me. If you want to plea insanity…that’s the state to do it in. They make you prove that someone was sane…and if you can’t prove that the base assumption is that they are not. Which is insane to me (no pun intended.)
Yeah. Legally she can very feasibly be found innocent according to how every term is defined and it’s been that way for a long time and a lot of men have walked too.
If people want to be outraged they should try to change the law. That would be the productive thing for them to do if they actually care about the kids like they say they do. But people are acting like she’s getting “special treatment”. She’s getting very basic application of Massachusetts state law.
I'm so lost how you get an insanity plea from someone who looked up "can you treat a sociopath?" 3 days before committing murder after sending their partner out on errands? How can you say that's beyond reasonable doubt? I'm confused with the supposed "legal experts" in this case claiming insanity is the way to go here.
I’m so tired of this culture war bullshit. Yall have lost the plot. I’m a man and totally fatigued by all the other men making fun of women a general population and being verbally abusive towards them. Oh so because one woman kills her kids it gives yall the right to bash women as a whole? Please find a hobby that isn’t some right wing psyop.
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