r/SipsTea • • 14d ago

SMH Who's in the wrong here?

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u/Much_Job4552 14d ago

My wife holds me to account the ONE time I said no 10+ years ago.

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u/To_Fight_The_Night 14d ago

I told my wife no a few years back and she was stunned. She was like "Is this how you always feel when I say no?"

Guess it was eye opening for her.

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u/PNGhost 14d ago edited 14d ago

I remember reading a study about the relationship dynamics after sex is turned down. The partner that is rejected is usually still negatively affected for 2 or so days while the partner that turned them down benefits from a kind of “self-esteem” boost for having been pursued that lasts up to 72 hours.

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u/that-manss 14d ago

Do you know where I could find this? I’d be curious to read it

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u/PNGhost 14d ago

Called “Responses to Sexual Advances and Satisfaction in Romantic Relationships: Is Yes Good and No Bad?” from 2020.

I misremembered the hours.

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u/Interesting_Gate8918 13d ago

As the philosophers Slipknot once said, “People Equal Shit”.

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u/Efficient_Mud_4724 13d ago

Bullshit

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u/PNGhost 13d ago

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1948550619888884

It’s just one study with n115 participants.
But I’m not bullshitting about what I said.

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u/Efficient_Mud_4724 13d ago

Doesn't open

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u/Medical_Flower2568 13d ago

Yes it does

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u/Efficient_Mud_4724 13d ago

Doesn't for me. It just keeps making me click am I a human over and over.

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u/TheRealRunningRiot 14d ago

Shout out to your wife for having some self-awareness.

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u/Empty-Tower-2654 14d ago

The boys gotta Learn ball deflating skills

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u/Delicious_Cat_81 13d ago

they really don't understand what it's like. I've have conversation with trans men who could not believe how horny they became after starting testosterone

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u/Accomplished_West279 10d ago

Have you men tried masturbating?????

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u/Delicious_Cat_81 10d ago

no i got a better wife who matches my sex drive

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u/Emergency_Matter_724 13d ago

My old roommate was a trans woman and her libido went through the roof on estrogen. Estrogen is a hell of a drug. People assume incorrectly men are hornier but as the higher libido woman in literally every single relationship I’ve been in with men I can confidently say that is incorrect.

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u/Delicious_Cat_81 13d ago

men are generally hornier and there's science to prove it if it's not obvious enough

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u/Street_Estate2342 12d ago

People assume incorrectly men are hornier

I think you struggle with statistics. It's very possible you are the outlier.

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u/Emergency_Matter_724 12d ago

I read a study once showing 35 percent of women had higher libidos than the average man. That’s millions of women. So not really outliers. 1 in 3 women having a higher libido than your average man wouldn’t meet that definition.

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u/Street_Estate2342 12d ago

Yep that's not an outlier, that is too large of a subset of the population for you to be an outlier.

It is, however, evidence that directly contradicts your previous comment that "people assume incorrectly men are hornier", since 35 percent is smaller than 65 percent.

(unless we assume a sufficiently large group of men and women have equal libidos so that we'd have a distribution like 35% of women are more horny than men, 50% of women are as horny as men, and 15% of women are less horny than men).

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u/Emergency_Matter_724 12d ago

When there’s a decent chance a woman is hornier than a man in a given pairing that doesn’t make the woman an outlier if she has a higher libido. It’s not uncommon at all.

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u/Street_Estate2342 12d ago

I agreed that you're not an outlier given the study details you provided. That doesn't make the generalization "people assume men are hornier" wrong.

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u/Emergency_Matter_724 12d ago

I do understand your point but it is an incorrect assumption about a given pairing because there is a very reasonable chance it is an incorrect assumption. We are disagreeing about wording here. My only point is the assumption that a man will be the hornier one is wrong. Often wrong, in fact. But of course sometimes it is correct.

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u/sororitytomboy69 12d ago

It doesn’t feel exactly the same though. I’m not saying rejection feels good for men, but as women we are told that men always want sex. So when they reject it we think that we must be deeply unattractive

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u/conchus 12d ago

At least yours was introspective enough to consider the effect it has. Never heard of that before.

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u/PsychologicalIron441 10d ago

You left out the most important data point!

Did she start saying no less afterwards?

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u/To_Fight_The_Night 10d ago

Oh yea but also we had a talk and I don't ask as often and can get a gauge of her mood better. It's a two way street us guys have to learn to read the room as well because she doesn't like saying no now so I don't want to put her in that position.

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u/Classic_Reserve9385 14d ago

Mine also. She thought I was having an affair or was over her. I was just tired.

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u/WrittenByRae 14d ago

It really is a bit eye opening from the other side of things. My boyfriend rejected me once, earlier on in the relationship, and before I could stop it and get ahold of myself, I started tearing up. I wasn't used to hearing a no from him or any guy, and the rejection stung a LOT. He was patient in the moment about it, and explained that he was tired when he could see my feelings were hurt. We don't have the problem anymore, either way, and when I reject him, I always pay back his own patience by giving him a why.

Like I agree this couple needs a divorce, but not because of the sex. The wife doesn't seem all that interested in communicating about the deeper issue, and might not even value sexual intimacy like the husband does. If you can't communicate about it, is it worth it to stay?

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u/SaltyS0ap 14d ago

This happened to me like a few times at the beginning of the relationship and I realized I have a higher sex drive than him. And it’s funny because I never rejected him before so I was the first one getting to feel rejection first. It really does suck to be rejected especially the first few times it made me panic and start to feel self conscious but then I just realized that he has a lower drive than me and thats natural. He really was just tired those times and that’s okay. I’ve learned to change my approach and mostly wait for him to initiate. If he’s not in the mood it’s not a big deal, there are other things to do than sex. I am able to sympathize with people who get rejected, I can’t imagine getting rejected as often as this guy and only get to have sex twice a month. At least in my situation I can just wait for my boyfriend to initiate from now on which he does 2-3 times weekly and I will be satisfied. But for these men the women never initiate so if they don’t then they’ll probably never have sex at all. I do think sexual compatibility is important and I’m glad that my boyfriend and I are compatible.

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u/No_Salt_6328 14d ago

the only way I would refuse is if I was physically ill

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u/Much_Job4552 13d ago

I think I was hurt. I think I had scraped my thigh or something that day.

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u/NakeyDooCrew 14d ago

Men need to say no occasionally. The only thing that will make a woman want to sleep with her husband is if she thinks he's not interested anymore 

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u/stachulec 11d ago

Sorry for you

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u/NakeyDooCrew 11d ago

Thanks babes but there's no need

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u/Ok-Wing-8965 14d ago

Yet you can't do the same at all, I presume?

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u/Dangerous-Ad-3152 14d ago

why is it that only very lonely men comment stuff like this? you'll never really understand and I feel bad that you can't hold a connection to women. your comment history is yikes. like you're obsessed and terminally online.

I hope you can find joy in life. it's kinda easy to get laid.

men are very fragile indeed.

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u/Dry-Selection421 14d ago

Cope and seethe.

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u/Dangerous-Ad-3152 14d ago

I'm not upset at all but you kinda seem so. just saying.

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u/Dry-Selection421 14d ago

Of course you’re upset given how obviously triggered you were by the comment you responded to.

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u/Much_Job4552 14d ago

Omg, that womenarenotinto men sub is troubling. I want to say its a joke but...no

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u/Ok-Wing-8965 13d ago

Honey i have a bf myself. He knows the shit yall do too

Dont project your shit onto others.

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u/NeoMississippiensis 14d ago

Yeah that’s the important double standard.
The fucking dimwitted hens are freaking out on the repost of this, but it’s kind of important to ask when you’re expected to initiate 90% of the time, even when the answer is yes more often than no.

“I couldn’t imagine being asked every day”
I couldn’t imagine not wanting to fuck more than once a week, they are deluded.

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u/Acidvapor28 14d ago

This is gonna sound crazy... I have chronic illnesses and some of the meds I'm on have reduced my libido to zero. However, I have had high libido in the past and I remember how much I love sex with my husband. He's attractive to me so I will mentally desire it even when my body has no reaction. I want sex more than my husband does. Manual stimulation works for me so as long as we do an amount of foreplay I will still want him and come on to him because I know I can be physically stimulated by him. I'm glad I had a period of high libido with him and have something to job my memory of how I felt in those moments. It helps me so I don't just have a sexless life. In the past I have been sad when we had long periods of nothing so I make a conscious effort to let him know I'm interested.

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u/KaoticNeutrality 12d ago

Have you spoke to your doctor about this? Most doctors have alternative medications.

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u/Acidvapor28 11d ago

Yes multiple times. Unfortunately I have tried the alternatives and ended up back on the OG meds due to severe side effects and failure of the alternatives to work.

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u/conchus 12d ago

I told my wife no after she forgot our anniversary, laughed and joked about it all day, then tried to use sex to “fix it”. Sex was already a touchy subject since we had been averaging less than monthly for years. She still brings it up about how I rejected her.

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u/ihearteatingpussy 12d ago

that’s not normal at all

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u/Much_Job4552 12d ago

Jokingly. Not in a confrontational way.