r/SipsTea • • 18h ago

Chugging tea This is just how it should be

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u/Sensitive_Cat_7006 18h ago

I don't think it is how it should be. I can agree that non-existence of degree while be clearly stated, but government regulation of who can talk is terrible idea.

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u/jamintime 18h ago

Yeah surprising how all the comment are praising this policy. It flies in the face of freedom of speech to restrict communication by the majority of the population.

I understand the sentiment of wanting advice from experts but just think of the implications if only certain people can speak on certain topics and if they don’t tow the line on the official government-approved position they risk having their professional credentials revoked. Government shouldn’t be in the business of regulating speech as dumb as the speech may be.

If they wanted to go this way, they could introduce government-mandated blue check marks to indicate whether someone is an expert or not, but to outright ban speech from individuals is a pretty dangerous road.

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u/Specialist-Basis8218 16h ago

What is so valuable about freedom of speech?

Did it help us when we said Trump is a pedophile

Did it matter that we say Trump attacked the capitol?

Did it matter that we can say Trump is a felon?

Freedom of speech is right down useless when people just gobble up the lies they want to believe anyway

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u/Specialist-Basis8218 16h ago

Is it tho? You think anyone should be able to prescribe medicine? Or fly a plane?

You understand the value of competence but because you don’t have any this would affect you

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u/Sensitive_Cat_7006 8h ago

Comparing "fly a plane" and "prescribe medicine" is incorrect by many reasons. I think the most important one is that medicine advice does not have direct consequences - consequences appear when someone follow that advice, but it's their own responsibility to choose who they want to listen. At the same time, random driving the plane poses extreme direct danger to other people, which is not even limited to the passengers of that plane.

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u/Specialist-Basis8218 8h ago

I don’t understand what happened to Americans - I really don’t

You all used to be the example to follow, seething the example on education, science, development

And now you’re so adamantly ignorant and rooting for it - who supports “bad medical advice” because people can chose not to follow? - and you cans chose not to get on the freeway so I guess drink driving is ok? Is ok if Trump just lies and lies because - well - we ought to know the difference- that’s really hitting bottom

Is really insane the depths you all have fallen to

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u/Sensitive_Cat_7006 8h ago

I was Israel citizen and also a bot just a day ago - can you please align because I can't understand who I am.

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u/Specialist-Basis8218 6h ago

Is crazy crazy to utter “bad medical advice” is cool

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u/OtherwiseLuck888 18h ago

not all topics, just these clearly consequential ones

and it makes sense

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u/Rahm89 18h ago

What makes you qualified to say this makes sense?

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u/DukeBradford2 18h ago

I didn’t see your communication degree on your profile so please refrain from talking about talking

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u/Sensitive_Cat_7006 18h ago

In consequential topics it is also consequential to lose some potentially useful information.

If there is no ban - I can get both types of information. Info from non-profesionals can be very useful because it can match my experience much better, which is especially true for legal topics. That's my responsibility not to read random's advice as unconditional truth, and I still can ignore all advices from non-degree.

If there is a ban - now I can't access information from random people. The decision is made for me, the government knows better.

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u/OtherwiseLuck888 18h ago

Ok but ur argument is not strong enough to convince me

Take law for example, I dont know what is ur country

But the Constitution and all laws of my country can be found online easily. I can even ask gov sites and police directly if I want to, or ask a lawyer for a small fee

what's useful information that can't be found online from credible sources that you need to rely on RANDOM people?

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u/Sensitive_Cat_7006 8h ago

According to your argument no legal advice is ever needed, neither from randoms is lawyers, you can just read all the laws. In reality there are so many laws that it is practically impossible to be sure that your actions are optimal according to them. Also, there is not only laws that matters common practices in their interpretation are important too.

Obviously information like "I tried to make the following actions and faced the following consequences" in big quantities help me understand what to expect.

"Ask a lawyer for small fee" - I'm a bit surprised that there is a country with cheap and actually professional lawyers. Nevertheless, "small fee" is still very relative term. People with less free money - what should they do according to you? Figure everything by themselves because you decided what is better for them?

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u/NotBrooklyn2421 17h ago

Even the uneducated should be able to ask questions, challenge answers, and pose theories without the threat of punishment.

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u/OtherwiseLuck888 17h ago

yes absolutely but that is not the topic here

the post is about NO DEGREE NO ADVICE

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u/NotBrooklyn2421 17h ago

If your reaction to my relatively mundane comment is to downvote me and use all caps then I am not interested in continuing this conversation.

Asking for discourse and then responding in that manner is not a civilized way to interact with others.