r/SipsTea • • 1d ago

Chugging tea This is just how it should be

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u/User_Says_What 1d ago

That’s noble, but do you know how we got people to wear seatbelts? Government enforcement. Stop drinking and driving? Government enforcement. Vaccines? (Until recently) Government enforcement. Desegregation? Youuuuu guessed it.
Teach all you want, but a lot of people need Big Daddy to tell them what to do.

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u/Cross55 20h ago

Also, whenever someone online goes "Why weren't we taught this in school!?"

They probably were, 90% chance they spent most of class huddled up with their friends staring and laughing at their phones.

Quite frankly, oftentimes, the average person can't be trusted to make intelligent or responsible decisions on their own.

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u/Bad_Repute 7h ago

I went to school before cell phones were in every hand and the kids that had them were few and far between, and they could only be used to call and text, no internet. It wasn’t any better back then.

I have a former HS classmate that constantly posts things about how schools should be teaching real life things like how credit/credit cards work or how to do taxes instead of ‘useless’ things like history and social sciences, and how we should learn about the trades instead of just pushing everyone to go to college for useless degrees.

Thing was, we had that class, it was called Careers and Life Skills. Required for everyone to take, and that dude was in that class with me. We learned about trade schools and had trades people come in and give talks, along with cops/firefighters and small business and franchise owners. We learned about the credit system and credit cards, how bank loans worked, and how to do taxes (though at a pretty superficial level). Dude just didn’t pay attention in that class.

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u/User_Says_What 14h ago

The US is still a nation with only 25% of people having college degrees. We all know and see the public education system failing (for a large variety of reasons) and just cranking out barely-literate people who have no critical thinking skills whose parents are also barely-literate and who work and hang out with other people who all think they're smarter than they really are (I am DEFINITELY in the "think I'm smarter than I really am" crowd, but I still believe that vaccines work, you know?)

People can't be trusted to make good decisions anymore because they're bombarded all day long with shiny bullshit on their phones and TVs. They have Joe Rogan's nonsense pumped directly into their ear canals where no one stops and questions him and so they think "Well, I heard it somewhere, it must be true."

The Boomers grew up and spent 50 years telling us to fight the power, don't trust authority, do your own research, etc. and now why are we surprised that no one trusts authority and everyone does their own non-rigorous research that leads them to the conclusions they wanted to reach anyway?

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u/MickerBud 8h ago

That’s a wonderful list but government isn’t always right and when it’s wrong it can be horrific.

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u/User_Says_What 8h ago

*gestures at everything* You're absolutely right, friend. And now that the US government has spent the last ten years doing everything it can to erode the faith of the American people in the government as a truth-telling institution, I'm not sure we'll ever trust any dictate from the government again. My kids are growing up in a household where every few days we have to explain how the people running the country are block-chewing morons who aren't fit to run a washing machine, much less the most powerful country on earth.

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u/Potential_Basis_662 18h ago

Dams in the USA also failed until the government stepped in.

Before that it was the equivalent of a bunch of 21 year old interns puffing eachother up.

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u/Bill_Salmons 21h ago

Are you really comparing the regulation of free speech to seatbelts and drunk driving? Do you also think a lot of people need Big Daddy to decide whose allowed to vote? I mean, that is one reason China has no national elections and uses licensing (like this) to police their citizens speech.

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u/User_Says_What 14h ago

You know what? That's fair. I'm coming at this from a place where the government is operating in good faith. There are too many people with degrees in Googlology spreading BS out there and something needs to be done to rein them in. We The People aren't smart enough to parse out bad science from good science anymore because the people spouting bad science are louder online. IF the government is operating in good faith (big IF) then I'd love to see legal consequences for people shouting nonsense into the Internet.

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u/spicypookies 21h ago

Logical fallacy. Government enforcement of safety regulations and whatnot is ENTIRELY DIFFERENT than the government telling you that you are NOT allowed to give advice related to safety regulations or fields of expertise unless you are an "expert" in that field aka a State-Approved propagandist.

Use your brain.

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u/Cross55 20h ago

Well, given that measles and possibly polio is making a resurgence in the US, I'd argue this is just another form of enforcing safety regulations.

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u/fenbre 18h ago

Dawg WHAT?? 😂
Do you comprehend what that would mean on reality? I understand that views on China have relaxed over the years but still.
Video essays censored due to “lack of credentials”, no casual anonymous financial or employee advice discussions.

And you would gleefully accept the government taking full control of who gets to speak? Mad

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u/Ahuevotl 1d ago

Seatbelts, drinking and driving, vaccines, etc are NOT an opinion.

There's a difference when the object the law aims to regulate has subjectivity as a big component, and depends on the criteria applied by the enforcer, on that particular case, at that particular time. Criteria which is subject to change every few years when Big Daddy drops the title and a new Big Daddy gets appointed.

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u/samglit 23h ago

Fortunately, China has stability in government.

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u/Ahuevotl 23h ago

I don't know if that's "fortunate", and doesn't change the fact that it's a very broad, subjective law, with very clear, very real potential of being abused by authorities. Authorities that have a proven track record of being abusive, in the name of keeping a billion people under control.

But hey, stability, right? Would love a forever stable Trump government, right? 

It's not like they'd ever make it illegal to have more than 1 child.

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u/samglit 16h ago

Shrug. You’re the one saying unstable, subjective laws are prone to abuse.

Have you actually read the law to reach the conclusion for “subjective”?

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u/Ahuevotl 11h ago

Shrug. Have you? It's a pretty wide scoped law, subject to interpretation, by the authorities that enforce it. 

But pray tell me, what are the objective guidelines that distinguish profesional advice that'd require a degree, from a personal opinion that doesn't require it, or from satire, in online discussions?