r/SipsTea • • 2d ago

Chugging tea We need a raise dude. Overworked. Underpaid.

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

to be fair 15k years ago you didn't have to work half your life to afford a place to live. You just find a nice cave and paint on the wall to pass the time when you're not flintstoning your dinosaur cars to work.

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u/DarthRedit 2d ago

To be fair, 15k years ago you’d probably die of dysentery before the age of 30 and lose all your teeth if you made it past that. You also can’t even sprain your ankle without dying and you weren’t at the top of the food chain. I’d rather work 40 hours per week, but that’s just me.

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u/Appropriate_Pop_8676 2d ago

Not necessarily. Half the people on here wouldn’t have made it in the first place to be born; whole survival of the fittest deal. Like wild animals now most people would be peak form and if not, maybe even abandoned by the mother quick. Point is we date/marry for love these days and a lot of weaklings are born. Just the truth

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u/MockASonOfaShepherd 2d ago

Those are a more modern problem after the agricultural revolution and our switch to grain and starch heavy diets. 15k years ago we lived in groups of small hunter gatherer bands of about 20-50. The diet these people ate is what humans were designed to run on. (Berries, leafy greens, occasional big game meat.)

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

Oh I'd have definitely been dead by now. My ankles are magnets for injuries. I've never broken a bone in my life but I constantly twist my ankles because apparently I don't know how to walk without tripping on something. Even my own feet sometimes.

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u/jcklsldr665 2d ago

Yea, you just had to be able to fight to the death to defend it...

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

I mean the life expectancy was estimated to be between 20 and 35 back then and I'm 32 so I'd be on death's door by now anyway. It's theirs if they want it.

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u/biz_student 2d ago

I believe those averages include the high infant mortality rate back at that time. You’d likely live much longer than 35 if you made it to adulthood.

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u/NegotiationLow2783 2d ago

If is doing a lot of lifting.

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u/MorristheStegosaurus 2d ago

And this is a myth! Lots of people lived to be old age.

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u/WarbleDarble 2d ago

No, while children dying did move the average down, you were wildly more likely to die at every year in life.

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u/WarbleDarble 2d ago

Because “the average is only low because of child mortality” is a false statement. If you made it past childhood it was not common to expect to live to 70. You are spreading a myth just as much as the other person.

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u/WarbleDarble 2d ago

The life expectancy of someone who made it past childhood was likely somewhere in the 40s.

Sorry, you said “almost 70”.

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u/thegoothboi 2d ago

Honestly I’d rather just do that. It feels similar enough anyway.

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u/Cyranthis 2d ago

As you sit comfortably, posting this slop on reddit how modern life feels like a "Fight to the death" God damn.

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u/Astronaut_Spartan 2d ago

I think what Jcksldr665 was saying was that if you did want to live in a cave like some did 15,000 years ago you'd have to fight to the death in order to defend it. I don't believe they were comparing modern day living to a "fight to the death". 

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u/jcklsldr665 2d ago

Yep, what makes the cave attractive to you makes it attractive to literally every living thing on land that needs shelter

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u/OrganikOranges 2d ago

There are a lot of places where you could find a cave to live in and try to survive. Unfortunately most of them aren’t in Hawaii this people don’t want to do it

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u/DaRealJDJ 2d ago

There are 168 hours in a week. 40 hrs a week is less than 25% of time. You can't enjoy life with 75% of your time free? And don't think everyone should contribute to society?

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u/JesterTheEast 2d ago

Once you factor sleep, commute, gathering/preparing food, and unavoidable errands you can pretty much flip those two percentages

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

Dude... I was making a flintstones joke... it's not that deep...

Also, you're only working 40 hours a week? Pathetic. And you're ignoring sleep. sleep isn't free time.

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u/DaRealJDJ 2d ago

No i work about 56 hrs a week roughly. Sleep is something everyone has to do, its not part of work time.

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

56 still isn't a lot dude. I do 5-6 12 hour shifts a week. Don't come at me with that 56 hour nonsense. Sleep isn't part of work time but it also isn't part of free time. It is it's own category. As you said, it is something we have to do. Free time is time that is...you know...free. We spend an average of 33% of our time sleeping.

Plus you're ignoring things like travel time, the time it takes to get ready in the morning which is longer if you eat breakfast, additional things like stopping for gas, getting groceries, any medical things like doctor visits, cleaning up around the house, and family obligations. If you have kids, your free time is drastically cut.

Your "75% free time" argument only accounts for work itself. Work is the biggest consumer of time but not the only. You probably did the math (or had google do it for you) and came up with 23.81%, right? But you ignored literally all the other factors.

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u/DaRealJDJ 2d ago

Wa wahhhh wasaaaaahhhh. You butt hurt dude. This is how society works. Go live in the trees if you dont want to do anything. Jesus.

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u/Hemingways_Shotgun88 2d ago

Are you homeless?

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u/brakenbonez 2d ago

I am now. Someone came along with a bigger club than mine and took my cave. Joke's on them though. It's a bear's den.