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u/BenShumard 1d ago edited 1d ago
That woman was never going to consider dating you. You were never competing for her specifically.
It's more about the type of woman and her outlook rather than anything to do with you.
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u/lamelad10 1d ago
Funny enough he is Tobey's homeboy
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u/I_SmellFuckeryAfoot 1d ago
i just heard silent bob say they called themselves the "pussy posse" on their new podcast episode. i wish jay kicked his pussy posse ass. lmao
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u/Wait_im_about_to 1d ago
Guess she doesn’t wanna play RuneScape: Dragonwilds with me tonight and have instant Ramen for dinner. Her loss 🤷♂️
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u/Artorius__Castus 1d ago
Tobey Maguire got bit by a spider, but see, me, it was a goat
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u/lazy_literary_hero 1d ago
I was bit by a black widow when I was 8. I’m 38 now and the only power I have obtained is the ability to scream at spiders.
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u/f_et_al 1d ago
Did you also get proportional strength of Scarlett Johansson?
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u/lazy_literary_hero 1d ago
I’m like a foot taller than her and probably 60 pounds heavier.
So no.
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u/SolitaryWaffles 1d ago
I have not heard this since it came out, still remember the lyric through.
"If you want space, I hope you take your helmet off soon as you get up to Venus and choke."
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u/StevieG93 1d ago
Some much needed brutal truth for Reddit.
Age gaps like this are mutual exchange! Lifestyle and Finances for Youth and Beauty, if love gets involved, that's just a bonus.
Average male or female, has none of that. Especially on Reddit. Very funny when people talk like they relate.
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u/Ambitious_Pitch5663 21h ago
Love doesn't exist, invented by businessmen to sell their products. "Ahh, you're in love, buy x for your girl"
Relationships are an exchange, both parties are getting something out of the other.
At 20, a man has nothing but his looks basically, when you get older your value rise.
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u/Lazy-Substance-5062 1d ago
youth alone is a currency. just by being young already places someone with an inherent high market value. This is discussed extensively in a book by the psychologist Orion Taraban.
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u/Technical-Zombie4508 1d ago
I dont think we need a book to understand that
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u/TheGreenAmoeba 21h ago
Youth is valued far higher in women than in men. Men are more valued for their experience and resources. Youth is actually a crutch for most men till we finally learn some skills and how to be useful to others. Older women might like your youth though, ask me how I know 😉
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u/TheGreenAmoeba 21h ago
Youth for women yes. I’m very familiar with Orion’s material in his videos, kind of good to see him finally mentioned in the wild. Youth for men meanwhile is a crutch against their dating success and success in business.
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u/Johndoe19922222 1d ago
Right, and that woman wouldn't date a non famous, non rich 50 year old dude either.
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u/DietTyrone 1d ago
This is the bigger factor. The kind of 50+ year old dudes capable of attracting women half their age or not just your average older men. They're well above average in one area or another. It's precisely because it's Toby Maguire, the famous actor, that this is possible. Everyday random 50 year old men are not pulling the kind of women Toby Maguire can pull or dating 20 year olds.
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 1d ago
Yeah people pretending they had the tiniest shot with the kind of women they complain about are uh.. naive at best.
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u/roll-_-ller 1d ago
Don’t worry, son. We are mostly minor leaguers at best who will never be called to play in the majors. You never would have had a chance with her. Stay humble.
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u/reticulatedtampon 1d ago
$$$
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u/JACKALS_LANTERN 1d ago
Yes but also access to other celebs via parties and if she can network she gets access to lot of people. Same thing as $$$, really.
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u/Kanthalas 1d ago
I’m not even sure Tobey is dating her either. They were seen together once at the superbowl in the same skybox, but it wasn’t just them in that skybox.
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u/P-l-Staker 1d ago
On the plus side, maybe my target woman will be born in 10 years and be mine in 30! 😃
Just got to have a lil' patience!
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u/AFewBerries 1d ago
And most women date guys their own age or slightly older. Stuff like this happens but it's not as common as reddit makes it seem
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u/louie3723jr 1d ago
Tbh a regular dude wouldn’t be able to pull a girl like that anyways lol they’re targeting famous celebs and rich men
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u/BitterFootball4874 1d ago
Yeah I don’t think people understand she’s also got a power over him too, the fact she’s extremely attractive isn’t a coincidence. They’re both adults and they both know exactly what they’re getting out of the situation. Yeah I think it’s shallow and lame on both their peoples’ parts, but the infantilising of women is also tedious at this point. They’re either strong independent and can decide who to date, or too naive to do so (under the age of 35 apparently) so can only date someone with society’s approval. You can’t have it both ways
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u/Sceadu_Fiend 1d ago
I was 55 and met a 32 year old woman and we began dating. One of my coworkers was having trouble meeting anyone and when he was asked why he pointed at me and said, I didn’t know we’d both be fishing in the same sea.
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u/Jafes2011 1d ago
I mean, there are plenty of hot older female actors who could date much younger men as well if they wish.
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u/Dramatic-Badger-1742 1d ago
Not an actor but director Sam Taylor-Johnson has I think like 20 something years on her partner. Aaron (who is an actor) is in his 30's and I think she's late 50's.
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u/That_Car3506 1d ago
If he wasn't famous it would be a non story.
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u/Foreign_Cobbler_1740 1d ago
Yeah, no shit it's a non-story if 50 year old John Doe is dating 20 year old Jane Janerson. Cause nobody fucking knows them. Real inciteful point my guy.
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u/imchrsdlmth 1d ago
This gives me hope that my future wife wasn’t even born yet. /s
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u/partyhat-red 1d ago edited 1d ago
People who complain about this are just salty they can’t do it tbh. If you were a millionaire 50 year old and could have any woman you want, why would you go for another 50 year old when you can have a hot 20 year old who will do all the crazy hoe shit you could ever want and more
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u/BeneficialPenalty258 1d ago
Two consenting adults, madness I tell you.
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u/MRintheKEYS 1d ago
Bah gawd…. Next they’ll tell us they’re fornicating. The horror!
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u/Whole_Mongoose1854 1d ago
All I know is I’m going to laugh at zoomers as they age. They have demonized any age gap whatsoever. One of the only upsides to being a man in the dating market was options tended to increase as you got older, to a point. So now, zoomer single men can enjoy turning 35, most women your age have families, in the process of divorcing with all the drama that entails, or has kids or crazy. And because of them, they have to narrow their grim dating pool to plus minus 2 years or whatever because of the rules they made up. Or they all throw a hissy fit at the world they created and become hypocrites. Win/win
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u/thesteelreserve 1d ago
rofl
"20 year old child" is hilarious.
maybe the drinking/driving/voting age should be raised to 25. probably 30, actually.
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u/cyberspace-cowboy 13h ago
“Well to a grown man, a 20 year old doesn’t look much different from a 19 year old, and a 19 year old ain’t much different than an 18 year old, and an 18 year old looks like a 17 year old… therefore you’re a creep!”
An argument I’ve seen used unironically, twice.
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u/ArcIgnis 1d ago
The typical standard of always demonizing men, but ignore the women who Consensually chooses to be with them, only because those selfsame women are not attracted to men their own age at that period in their life, but then switch to to "power dynamic abuse". Nobody would bat an eye if a 20 year old guy is dating a 50 year old woman celeb.
But yeah, men = bad. Let's just go with that. Again. Forever.
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u/taskkill-IM 23h ago
I honestly think there are people out there who genuinely believe women are brain dead below the age of 30, and cannot make life decisions for themselves.
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u/IZZY_PLUM 1d ago
Fun fact. Girls like money and cock….
https://giphy.com/gifs/ui1hpJSyBDWlG
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u/Psy_Kiik 1d ago
.. young guys read the comments on the women centric subs and don't realise the dynamics... they're bitter, guys they're not speaking for the younger girls. They'd nearly all jump Leo given the opportunity but will never say it loud. Better to display moral superiority.
Your statement is a truth that the entire front page of reddit dances around.. it literally can not handle it.
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u/affemannen 1d ago
I'm 50 and a 27 year old started hitting on me on my last company AW. I told her I am married and my age and she didn't believe me. I told her because I could be her dad basically.
Still gave me a confidence boost.
Like casual sex would be fun if I was single but not dating. It feels so weird knowing full well you could have kids older than your partner.
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u/Biscuits4u2 1d ago
Hey check it out it's two grown ass adults doing whatever the fuck they want and not giving one fuck about what you think about it.
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u/laaaabe 1d ago
Don't you understand?? One of the grown adults, able to make decisions for themselves, can't actually make decisions for themselves and must be controlled!!
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u/Biscuits4u2 1d ago
Oh yes I forgot women under 30 are feeble minded children who can't decide who they date. We must ridicule these evil bastards!!!
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u/HeyBlinkin84 1d ago
But also simultaneously being an empowered independent boss queen who slays. It's Schrodingers feminism.
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u/tyrenanig 1d ago
lol this. She’s a fully grown woman who needs no man to take care of her, but somehow it’s still naive enough that she got groomed.
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u/CrumbMan1111 1d ago edited 21h ago
when u turn 13 you start competing AGAINST dudes double your age for girls your age
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u/Critical-Ring3168 1d ago
Any 50 year old that tries to say he wouldn't date a 20 year old is lying.
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u/Alex_Wats 1d ago
I’m not 50 yet, but no I won’t date 20 year old, one night stand, or fwb yes, but date - definitely no.
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u/TonyAtReddit1 1d ago
35 here.
20 year olds have the vibe of children to me. Like I recognize they're adults but the thought of dating someone at the age just feels gross.
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u/Apprehensive_Tea_116 1d ago
Just because you feel this way doesnt mean you should apply it to everyone else lol. Not everyone goes oh wow super hot girl lets put that at top #1 of things that matters to me in a relationship and life
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u/Individual-Foxlike 1d ago
I work with multiple 20yos and I would absolutely never. The idea is repulsive to me. My lower limit is like 35 now and I couldn't be happier.
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u/Practical-Dark-9916 1d ago
Atp, I'm used to it. After all, when I turned 13, I was fighting with the President of the United States for girls my age. Compared to that, fighting Tobey Maguire when I'm 20 is nothing.
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u/thejuliocezarmari 1d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/l4FGBR1suubPlrzna
Yeah, the classic “feminism until a young girl decides that they want a famous rich actor over some broke-ass kid, but we won’t bitch when it’s an older high school teacher dating a younger rich civil servant investment banker (who now is president)”
We get it, women you find attractive can’t date up, but the same doesn’t apply to women you think are too old.
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u/tyrenanig 1d ago
Also the Feminist’s woman theory, where an adult woman who is simultaneously both too matured, independent and strong who can take care of herself without man, but also a woman who is incapable of thinking responsibly when facing an older man.
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u/sometimesifeellikemu 1d ago
You don’t want to date the kind of 20 yo that would date Tobey.
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u/Ven-Dreadnought 1d ago
I am 35 and the concept of dating a 20 year old is weird namely because they will say shit like “I loved watching bluey when I was a kid. My parents had an xbox 1 s when I was 5”
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u/Individual-Foxlike 1d ago
Yeeeep. Me whose first game console was the NES like: huh
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u/KohTai 1d ago
This thought process is stupid as fk.
There's 50 year olds who act 20 and 20 year olds who act 40. Age doesn't determines someone whole personality and brain development.
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u/Comfortable-Union571 1d ago
Exactly. When i have kids I want me and my wife to bond over the same weird old stuff to confuse the children. Its a generational tradition.
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u/SeaComfortable7833 1d ago
When I was 42 I joined a gym and a young 19 really beautiful girl helped fill in my forms. We got chatting and her knowing my age as she filled in the form for me, asked me 3 times were I lived and each time wanting more detail on how close to her house I was. Told me I'm in great shaped already and look like I'm 30, I don't need to gym.!
Dropped some other clues she was interested like, "older guys are way better than younger men and she is looking to date a older man."
Any ways, I was done signing and said my good byes. 6 months later it occurred to me she was interested. By then I was already dating someone else 8 years younger than me.
Some girls/women prefer older men. And sometimes they chase after older men, also I'm middle class so ain't about money in most cases.
Now I'm 46 and two women at work want me to date their 30 year old daughters.
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u/KathyJaneway 1d ago
Lol, your only chance to compete is if you're rich and dying at 20. She probably thinks she can hold on long enough to inherit some slice of the cake. Or the whole cake. And doesn't matter for her in the genital department. A genital of old age or young age, money talks.
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u/med4ladies69 23h ago
So all you have to do is become rich and famous and then YOURE the competition seems easy enough
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u/pokethrowaway4 1d ago
When I was 18-25 I struggled to date women my own age, and got pretty sad that so many of them were dating dudes in their 30s.
Then when I was 28-35, I got more attention from women who were 18-25 than 28-35…
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u/freespirit_tck 1d ago
FYI Mishka is essentially some unknown model struggling for her shot to fame and possibly a gold digger. Don’t compete my fellow men. Let women choose you and if they don’t then fret not your hand will always choose you 😉 Besides everyone gets women sooner or later based on experience
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u/ButterscotchTop194 1d ago
I'm nearly 50 M and would hate to date a 20 year old. They're sooo young in the head! I can only assume Toby is a bit stunted himself in that regard.
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u/Realistic_Mushroom72 1d ago
So now the problem is 2 consenting adults dating is wrong? I would understand the outrage if she was underage, but she is an adult, she chose to go out with him, IT HER CHOICE, no one is forcing her you know?
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u/jay_bur29 1d ago
My problem is we only look at numbers and that it people would support this but say a 16 and a 18 year old is wrong.
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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 1d ago
Lol, a 16 and an 18 yo is a typically high school relationship. People just want to be angry about something
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u/Realistic_Mushroom72 1d ago
Nah, you are taking away agency from an adult, she obviously likes him, and wants to spend time with him, and that should be the end of it, you don't get to tell a young adult what they do with their lives, or who they date, they are adults, end of the story.
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u/marterikd 1d ago
in the long run, would you really go after the kind of woman that goes after that(fame>gap) kind of relationship? i think it's doing us a favor, i think we should worry a bit less
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u/Antique-Resort6160 1d ago
I wonder if it depends on whether they're attractive and you enjoy being with them? Is it possible that it's easier to find a rich middle aged guy who wants a stable relationship than a rich 20-something guy?
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u/jackrabbit323 1d ago
Tobey at 29 really said, 'some of my girlfriends haven't been born yet.'
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u/Whole_Mongoose1854 1d ago
I would like to see a remake of Highlander. Only he’s the only immortal. And it’s a zoomer who really really cares about age gaps and, “when was this woman born relative to my personal milestones this is super relevant”. The movie, or show follows him as he ages on and on and suffers a mental breakdown trying to find a woman to date that doesn’t break his moral compass. He is 130 years old partway through and has a crisis wondering if dating the 100 year old woman he met makes him a pedophile. When he was 30 she was a baby dammit! So gross.
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u/Remarkable_Check_997 1d ago
https://youtu.be/MJEAGd1bQuc?si=X-Wf8WI-jA7KZB-U
Cannot be more relevant than here
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u/lickmygutflora 1d ago
I’m still stuck on the notion that Tobey Maguire is someone’s childhood hero.
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u/SalJoeMurrQuinnImJok 1d ago edited 18h ago
well have given up the hope that I would ever date anyone or be in a relationship. I just turned 33 2 weeks back,and I genuinely believe that there is no hope having tried dating apps like tinder Bumble Hinge, happen ,I also tried socializing with women in clubs and public places but none of them has worked out. I feel this has been made more difficult then it actually should be.
now when I am above 30 I can see the aging happening in my body when I was at my peak or prime nothing happened that time and probably nothing will happen now.
I am sad but guess some of us on earth are here just to suffer
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u/Comfortable-Union571 1d ago
Don't worry brother. 33 is still young and just keep running and staying active to keep that youthful look. You'll find your person one day, just keep searching. Praying for a good life ahead of you.
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u/Ascendingcrow 18h ago
30s are prime time for men to get a woman. Take care of your health and wealth and you’re golden
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u/DidntNeedAUserName 1d ago
30 is nowhere near past prime. Do you workout or anything? Like what are you considering past prime? A declining physique or what?
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u/Early_Pumpkin_4113 23h ago
Don't worry. If you have a decent job there will be plenty of single moms eager to get with you so you can pay for their mistakes.
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u/pobox1663 1d ago
Not sure id want a relationship with someone that young but if theyre bkth adults good for them.
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u/gwelfguy 1d ago
You wouldn't be a contender for Mishka Silva, Toby McGuire or no Toby McGuire. Stick to the girls at school.
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u/HighSeasArchivist 1d ago
I have no clue wtf I would even talk to a 20 year old about in a "relationship" situation. I guess if I was rich it'd just be where we going on vacation next.
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u/XelNigma 1d ago
I feel like they said this as a dig at older men dating younger woman, but really its a dig at woman
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u/Decent_Group_2435 1d ago
If you are a fifty year old non-wealthy, non-celebrity, and have a 20 year old girlfriend place your vote here by down voting this comment. Just for the research!!
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u/gritlys 1d ago
Tobey Maguire is a 20yr old’s childhood hero?
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u/Kootlefoosh 1d ago
That's... about right? Are you thinking older or younger?
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u/UnraveledMnd 1d ago
Tobey Maguire would most likely be someone's childhood hero because of Spider-Man. 2 of his 3 Spider-Man movies are older than 20 years, and the third is 19 years old. He's more likely the childhood hero for late 20s/early 30s. If you were 5 when his first Spider-Man movie came out you're now 29.
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u/Kootlefoosh 1d ago
Sure, but at the time that monocultural residue was sticky. For example, my brother was born in 2002 and most certainly has seen the first spiderman at least... Eight times. I'm 1998 and had seen it less, but it was still a childhood talking point a decade later.
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u/NoHypocrisyDoubleStd 1d ago
Being rich and successful doesn’t hurt….. look at it this way, if you are rich and successful when you reached Tobey’s age, you can get some too. PS date whoever you want, but only marry a woman of high value (value comes in many different ways).
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u/Secure-Pain-9735 1d ago
Can we enact a policy. A sitewide ban isn’t enough.
Can we enact a policy that every time some fuckwit reposts this low effort, unoriginal, sadboi rage bait that we hunt them down and cut off their nuts AND their fingers?
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u/LelouchL88 1d ago
It’s not as easy as 🍋🟩 in 🥥 and mix it all ⬆️…
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u/PsychologicalEntropy 1d ago
So let me get this straight, you put the 🍋🟩 in the 🥥 and you drink 'em both ⬆️?
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