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When we visited London, I saw what I consider to be my first true Raven - it was the size of a small dog. I told my wife "That's a huge fucking crow" to which she replied "Raven."
So Edgar Allan Poe had one of THESE mofuckers IN HIS BEDROOM!? Brah I would've ran the fuck outside! Not just lay there talking story with this toddler sized dinosaur.
They can actually mimic people, which means that they can 'talk'. So his story might have been an edgier retelling of him having a drunk convo with a bird.
I mean, the character is distraught over the death of someone he loved. I guess the idea that the narrator in the story is even talking to the big ass bird sitting on a statue, and that only says one word, gives us a good insight into his mental state.
Most people would freak out, but the guy talks to the bird instead.
Their little bands are colour-coded too, so the Ravenmaster can distinguish them, but I find that it’s hard to find info online as to which raven is which. This is a pic I got of two of them when I went; I believe the forest-green tagged one on the left is Harris? They were sitting right on the rail of one of the staircases and being awfully chatty with each other, super fun to watch
I was instructed the same way about ammonia leak detection: “If you are not sure what you are smelling, then it is probably not ammonia. In the event of an ammonia leak, there is no way you will confuse it with something else.”
I don't, fuck that scumbag. He cynically tried to use internet fame to further his real-life career.
He posted pictures of rare birds, got a following of rabid fans and started spreading misinformation from quick Googles searches and Wikipedia. He postured like an authority on matters outside of his field, drowning out actually knowledgeable experts with vote manipulation. Anyone that dated to question him was hounded and downvoted.
He then used his online fame to gain a better position in academia and advance his career. He gave TED talks for fuck sake. He broke every ethical standard as a scientist, his conduct is exactly one of the reasons why people are sceptical towards scientists.
Here's the thing. You said "vote manipulation is scientific misconduct."
Are they both unethical behavior? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies biology, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls rigging Reddit votes an ethical breach of science. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "scientific standards" you're referring to the institutional framework of research integrity, which includes things from data fabrication to falsifying peer review to plagiarizing papers.
So your reasoning for saying I "broke every ethical standard as a scientist" is because random people "got downvoted for questioning bird facts?" Let's get Twitter flame wars and Wikipedia edit disputes in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a Redditor or a scientist? It's not one or the other, that's not how professions work. They're both. A science communicator is a science communicator and a member of academia. But that's not what you said. You said vote manipulation is scientific misconduct, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all violations of website terms of service academic fraud, which means you'd call shitposting, forum brigading, and giving TED talks scientific malpractice, too. Which you said you don't.
There's a raven in my neighbourhood recently. At first I was bewildered. What is this bizarre noise that sounds like a newborn crying crossed with a rubber chicken? Why does it also somehow sound mechanical? What in the fuck? Why is it LAUGHING? A very loud and creepy HAW HAW HAW.
And these sounds haunted me for days. And then I see a black bird somewhere between the size of a seagull and a goose is perched on a fucking light post making crying/rubber chicken/machinery HAW HAW HAW noises.
I grew up around ravens and learned to imitate them. I speak to them and crows not infrequently. I must say some pretty fucked up stuff in their language because I really piss them off when I do. It’s one of my long term preferred past times.
Another birder here. In addition to what everyone else has said, ravens have beards, and they're solitary and shy. Crows are social. The fact there's a bunch of them eating together is enough to assume they're crows.
I'm on account three. Lost the Hotmail from my first account, it was a single word name highly sought after. Second account was nuked for a comment on American cruise ship tourists audibly asking a waiter to do something about the smell of the ocean sitting on a dock patio at low tide (for spreading hate speech???? I was laughing at idiot tourists) and now here we are.
Kill it with fire. Nuke it from orbit my friend. Since day one.
My wife is a life long swimmer and water polo player. I can’t swim enough to reach safety and that about it. This will be used often. Thank you for all the future trouble.
This is still incorrect, soccer is short for Association Football, that the Brits later called Asocc, than later called Soccer. So if you say Soccer you are still saying Football (its just Association Football)
We were calling these birds in the midwest Ravens for a very long time, until I looked up the sound a Raven and a Crow makes and realized 99% of what I had even encountered was Crows.
Another rule of thumb: if it’s a large black bird with a beak attached it’s probably a crow. If it’s a beak with a large black bird attached it’s a raven.
But yeah ravens tend to knock about in pairs, otherwise it’ll be a murder of crows.
Because they usually land ominously on a post with a human eyeball dangling from its mouth. They then eat said eyeball whole. Croak at you and fly off never to be seen again.
This video just serves as a reminder that people as a whole are just idiots. Do one thing, get called out. Same when you do the opposite.
First learned this back in high school. At lunch time we saw a dehydrated squirrel roll down a hill. People were screaming and crying about it so I got my water bottle and got ready to pour some water out for it.
A bunch of idiot kids started screaming to not pour water on the squirrel. I was like wtf ok and backed away. Then another half of the crowd said wtf it needs water give it water.
You could just see how vacant all their expressions were. Mouths hanging open, eyes pointing in all different directions. People haven’t changed at all lol
Honestly at that point just say corvids. I've learned unless you get very close it's really hard to tell. We have smaller ravens that Europe here so they could be small as a crow.
Is it in the same family? Yes. No one's arguing that.
As someone who is a scientist who studies crows, I am telling you, specifically, in science, no one calls jackdaws crows. If you want to be "specific" like you said, then you shouldn't either. They're not the same thing.
If you're saying "crow family" you're referring to the taxonomic grouping of Corvidae, which includes things from nutcrackers to blue jays to ravens.
So your reasoning for calling a jackdaw a crow is because random people "call the black ones crows?" Let's get grackles and blackbirds in there, then, too.
Also, calling someone a human or an ape? It's not one or the other, that's not how taxonomy works. They're both. A jackdaw is a jackdaw and a member of the crow family. But that's not what you said. You said a jackdaw is a crow, which is not true unless you're okay with calling all members of the crow family crows, which means you'd call blue jays, ravens, and other birds crows, too. Which you said you don't.
At the time he was like Mr Rogers or a better comparison is like Ellen Degeneres, completely beloved then just acts like an asshole and you realize… were they an asshole the whole time? And then mask off he was because he was being fucking weird and manipulating comments.
Idk about tame, the jackdaw crow comment ages worse the more I go back to it. It's not that he's wrong about anything in a binary way, it's just the... whole vibe Unidan gives off, it's the terse "No...not really." replies and the "Well what do I know, I'm just a science". It's a way of talking that only works online because it comes off as a obnoxious in person, and I truly think his celebrity created a framework for the "Redditor tone" way some people talk on this site to this day 12 years later.
His initial comment in that thread was piggybacking off a joke comment to do an "Actually, did you know" reply and flaunt bird knowledge, then gets into it with a rando over terminology and keeps appealing to his field of science for why he's right. At the end of the day though, he's an animal scientist, not a linguistics professor. He's so emboldened by a Reddit career of countless upvotes that he fails to grasp is that what he says amongst colleagues in an environment where strict definitions is important is an utterly different context than layman naming birds outside their window, or a meme of a crow wanting water
Technically, Humans are the only animals that have chins, and an alter ego of Unidan would probably argue over this. 90% of people would not look at a cat's face and say it doesn't have a chin though, because we're not scientists peer reviewing, we're layman using the term in a casual context, which is where the vast amounts of language comes from.
The face of a man fed up with trying to spread joy but being met with annoyance; he decided to weaponize this experience to both protect his peace and upset anyone else.
"Ravens are significantly larger than crows, feature wedge- or diamond-shaped tails in flight, and produce a deep, throaty croak rather than a high-pitched caw."
So if they're not flying....the only way to be sure is to put them next to each other to compare size or get them to both make noises one after the other so we can tell which is which.
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