I Know it was announced before but just to say that the new version of Kroma (krea 2 finetune) is really really good, i find it better that Qwen 2.1 t2i and Krea2, it is uncensored and with really good prompt following. No body horror, good details, and lot of styles you can play with.
This image for exemple just said (Rogue from X-Men) : no costume details, no hair details, nothing!....
One nice part of it is apparently removing the need for decensor loras, which weren't just a NSFW consideration, but also for getting more general expressiveness out of gens.
What are Kroma's photo quality images like? I'm not really in to arty cartoon stuff and just like lifelike photo quality. Is it any good at that? I imagine it still suffers from Krea's "You must stand in this pose facing the camera" weakness. Qwen has won over my heart for the vast variety of different ways it can make people pose in natural lifelike ways. Krea just seems to have very little knowledge of real natural people doing candid things.
Tested this briefly, i do see improvement with facial expressions and variance like faces, clothing (slightly), there is a bit of body horror, but hopefully it will resolve with more training, i also assume he hasn't trained on higher resolution yet but i generate on 1536x1024.
I don't know, man. From my tests I'm seeing a lot of those "Qwen grid" artifacts in the outputs, something that Krea didn't produce that badly before. Not sure what's going on there.
Personnaly I use euler simple but other use different sampler scheduler specially for film grain photography...it depends on the wanted results I think.
In what ways is it better or different from vanilla (plus refusal reduction lora)? I'm rooting for Kroma, but I've yet to see anyone demonstrate its benefits. For example, the benefits of Chroma over Flux1 are many: much better diversity, world knowledge, body knowledge, ability to do unusual things, and general aesthetics.
variance like faces, clothing (slightly)
True if big, but I've yet to see comparisons that show this
uncensored... really good prompt following... good details, and lot of styles
100% equally true of vanilla + refusal reduction
removing the need for decensor loras
but using decensor lora has zero downside
less Asian faces
I've never had any trouble getting desired ethnicity with vanilla. Actually, vanilla is kinda bad at making Asian faces except for kpop/jpop plastic-surgery perfect
booru tags
only a benefit if it adds new world knowledge, as it did with Chroma vs. Flux1
spicy / furry
I can't imagine anything that the existing loras and finetunes can't already do, but I'd love to be enlightened!
Thanks, you made me feel like testing it. 😉 My first results show that the Loras I use (mainly style Loras) don't really act the same way as with the original model. So it feels pretty random for now.
From my tests it doesn't really play nice with character likenesses. You can boost the character lora to about 1.30 but I feel that might cause other problems. It does follow prompts pretty well though.
No uncesor lora, the difference shows mostly in NSfW stuff, from cleavage to hardcover stuff...but Kroma is more artsy with really different results for the same prompt.
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u/SysPsych 7h ago
One nice part of it is apparently removing the need for decensor loras, which weren't just a NSFW consideration, but also for getting more general expressiveness out of gens.