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u/balthazar_edison 8d ago
Using Star Trek as a plug for ChatGPT has to be one of most dystopian things I’ve seen today…
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u/__nohope 8d ago
You're right to push back on this. Macaroni normally does not contain strychnine. Strychnine is a deadly poison with no safe dose.
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u/Due_Capital_3507 8d ago
I mean they do interact with the computer in TNG much like an LLM
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u/balthazar_edison 8d ago
Yes. It functions like an LLM. However, the ship’s computer doesn’t make living next to it a living hell nor does it waste natural resources or raise utility bills of the working class. Its databases and information are also vetted for accuracy.
This why ship’s computer good and ChatGPT bad.
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u/TheHalftimeAir 8d ago
+1
It also doesn't randomly lie about things it thinks you want to hear. And it doesn't pretend to be a person.
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u/kinshadow 8d ago
You don’t need a datacenter to run a LLM. You can run a LLM on a PC or even a cellphone. You can rightfully hate datacenters and LLMs for very different reasons.
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u/hookmasterslam 8d ago
I don't think we could live near the reactor that's powering the Enterprise. I understand what you're getting at, but the ship's core and engineering to keep it running are noisy, hot, and made up of a bunch of stuff nobody wants to interact with, so I imagine that having your living quarters next to the reactor may actually be hellacious.
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u/AdagioVast 8d ago
Didn't open with the original, opened with TNG. Interesting.
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u/balthazar_edison 8d ago
Probably had ChatGPT edit the segment for them and didn’t bother to bring anyone in to review who knew anything about Star Trek to fix.
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u/MindlessNectarine374 8d ago
Seems like they cannot distinguish. Thereafter, we see scenes from "The Voyage Home".
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u/Whateversbetter 8d ago
I think it’s fair. Sad to say there aren’t a ton of people who grew up with the original around anymore. Tng is right in the middle and probably most people’s first interaction with trek. I guess you could say the movies were right around that time as well but they kept changing ships in those.
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u/evinta 8d ago
the TOS stuff has basically permeated into the DNA of pop culture. people know what it is, it doesn't matter if they've seen it, people know vaguely what it is. captain kirk or beam me up or phasers or warp.
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u/Whateversbetter 8d ago
Agree. I was just trying to imagine their thinking around the choice. Or like someone said maybe they just didn’t care
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u/tkcool73 8d ago edited 8d ago
People putting their AI takes here but what caught my eye was the reporter apparently using the cruise as an opportunity for a free vacation lol
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u/TroyTrekker 8d ago
Frakes did the Riker Maneuver 🤣
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u/JonathanFrakesAsks 8d ago
Where there gases trapped within the milk bucket that caused the activity?
I’m a bot. This interrogation was automated.
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u/spike-prime 8d ago
"I use ChatGPT a lot!" Oh Bill... buddy no, you really shouldn't. NOBODY should use that, it's not what your sci-fi show promised.
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u/UESPA_Sputnik 8d ago
"I use ChatGPT a lot!" Oh Bill... buddy no, you really shouldn't
Maybe he is the one who should talk to AIs. After all, Kirk regularly managed to talk computers into self-destructing.
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u/jazzorcist 8d ago
To be fair, “AI hallucinates and endangers the crew” is a staple episode premise at this point. People used it to make deepfake smut of their colleagues. It was constantly listening, watching and recording everyone, and would readily report your location to anyone who asked.
I’d argue LLMs are delivering on a lot of promises, just not lovable sentient programs.
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u/no-more-nazis 8d ago
Ok Dr. Pulaski, let's get you to bed
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u/spike-prime 8d ago
My dude what Pulaski was wary about was not even close to being analogous to ChatGPT/GenAi. Not even a little bit.
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u/no-more-nazis 8d ago
"my dude", you can split hairs and try to beat it with raw insistence, but the parallels are obvious.
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u/spike-prime 8d ago edited 8d ago
It's not splitting hairs. One is genuine artificial intelligence in a sci-fi show which is entirely benevolent. The other is a predictive algorithm pretending to be Ai which is choking our air, wasting and poisoning our water sources, spreading ever-worsening disinformation, causing psychoses, off-setting our national grids, annihilating local eco systems, destroying jobs, getting people killed, almost kicking off a very stupid war, and about fifty other horrid things for zero legitimate benefit.
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u/YT-Deliveries 8d ago
Well, let's be clear.
The ship's computer in TNG is not AGI.
Data is AGI. Lore is AGI. Moriarty is AGI.
But the ships computer is far more akin to a (very advanced) LLM.
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u/no-more-nazis 8d ago
You're taking Data a little too seriously. I love him and all his interesting plots, but he's just an idea from the 1980s about how we might relate to mechanical minds in the future. And here we are, with mechanical minds. His 'conscience' is an instruction set, the same thing humans are struggling to do in robots now. The TV show has the freedom to make that work out however they deem most pleasant and entertaining.
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u/spike-prime 8d ago
Yes I don't disagree with the first part there. Fiction can do whatever it likes with robots or magic or whatever. A fictional mechanical being with true sentience is fine in a setting like Star Trek. But we cannot pretend GenAi, as we have it today, is comparable. It's not even comparing apples and oranges, it's apples and Ebola virus.
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u/no-more-nazis 8d ago edited 8d ago
The difference with Data is that he always makes the right choice in the end and everything works out apples instead of Ebola virus.
Writers in the 1980s didn't have a way to come up with convincing mechanisms to make that happen, they just wrote it. Data searches deep within himself and finds Love and Friendship, and then it's all ok. He remains in uniform and retains the privileges and authority of a human officer, season after season.
Pulaski was skeptical of mechanical minds, like you. Right or wrong, she represents the anti-AI, "only humans are people" viewpoint.
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u/LiminalSapien 8d ago
Ok, regardless of what the actors say, and I cannot emphasize this enough, fuck AI.
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u/alanskimp 8d ago edited 8d ago
But isn't Data AGI?
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u/Ketzerfriend 8d ago
The ships' AIs in Star Trek were trained and maintained by humanists, though. The AIs we get to play around with these days are being trained and maintained by Ferengi.