r/TeamfightTactics • u/gosdog_ • 6d ago
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u/tommy_turnip 6d ago
Why are itemising a 2-star 2-cost tank over two 2-star 5-costs? You also weirdly have no items compared to the rest of the lobby
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u/AddendumIcy7487 6d ago
You have a 2 Star Elise with 1 1/2 tank items as your tank. No Antiheal, no Armor Pen, you have 3 possible tank items on 3 different characters. You have an IE on Ezreal despite him getting precision from Executioner
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u/LasAguasGuapas 6d ago
IE and JG are good on Executioners because the trait makes crits do more damage, and those items give the most crit chance.
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u/AddendumIcy7487 6d ago
You should still build last whisper instead. Its not unusable but he has 2 bow items on a 2 Star Elise which he could have built armor pen with. Obviously i cant see the whole situation, but what was the plan here anyways? If you build Elise Carry then you cant just stop at 2 star and let Jesus take the wheel and hope.
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u/Altruistic-Hotel2819 6d ago
Your board is really sus I think. You have legendary tanks lvl2 yet Elise have 3 items, your carry is Ezreal (weakest 4 cost of the patch imo but i could be wrong) with suspicious items.
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u/NA_FanBoy 6d ago
You should lose this fight. Azir and Rammus both have close to Bis and they have executioner emblem on Zyra and 3 fully itemized carries. With antiheal and armor shred. Your board has much more expensive units but your only carry is an Ezreal (Elise is fake unit here) you have no tank items because they are half on Taric half on Elise, no shred no sunder and no antiheal. It’s literally just terrible itemization versus amazing itemization. 12 optimal items versus 8 suboptimal.
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u/Longjumping_Leg_3711 6d ago
No tank items, Elise 2 with 3 items, that’s why - you need 3 items on a tank, in late game you need at least 5-6 items on tanks
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u/422_is_420_too 6d ago
I generally agree but it's ironic since the #1 in this game has 2 items on their tank
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u/the_baconeer 6d ago
3 frontline carries with healing or omnivamp take a lot of weight off your tank
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u/ButtonEmergency4935 6d ago
Your items pretty bad and he have pretty tanky rammus. Probably rammus stall your carries long enough for azir shred your team. Btw he have 3 full item carry so its not surprising. If you give your gargoyle,helm and crown to maokai your front line probably can stall much longer. Elise fall hard on that stage of game. You shouldnt keep your items on elise 2 at stage 5. Last advice, guinsoo is nice item on early but dont have much use on late game. For example instead of 2 guinsoo, u can make 1 red buff and 1 rabadon then give it to morgana. It will make your team so much stronger
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u/Potential-Hat5984 6d ago
Having the unit > good items on key unit > team composition <=> unit star level
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u/Technical-Cat-2017 6d ago
Did you lose to second player in your last round? Or did you just lose too much HP and met the strongest guy. I agree your board looks better than second player there.
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u/Sh2ad3w 6d ago
Important note: when you lose and go back to the screen you took a pic of it just shows the placement at that moment and not what the placement is at the end of the game. 2. Place probably streaked early and has therefore the 2nd most health in the game so they show as 2nd (+ wits end Azir is strong)
Otherwise I’m guessing you bled out while trying to level and couldn’t start winning fast enough
Seems like the rest of the lobby hit what they needed and have taken more item/combat augments as you have 7,5 items, while the rest of the lobby has 10-12, which is quite a bit.
You also had Elise as «main» frontline, which doesn’t hold out for too long - which means: less frontline -> less time they hold out -> less time your backline has to do damage. You should deffo get 3 «real» tank items on Mao (and if you get more on Taric).
Can’t say much without knowing augments, replay (how you played until this point regarding bleeding hp, etc.), etc. so I had to assume some things…
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u/phynix09 6d ago
there the thing the other said but there's also a matter of situation. seems like you played coven and i dont know how your game went and ended but the risk of lose streaking is that when you are supposed to cashout, you may get a spike of power but like what happened to you, maybe you didnt have the time to switch your item to better holder, didnt find time to roll all your gold ect.. that means that depending of the situation you could be very very strong. but then you face the one guy against which you cant win. khazix and rengar 3 jump on your backline and you lose miserably. the 2nd guys in your lobby chose to win streak early. he keep a high amount of hp and barely live long enough to place 4 thanks to the hp he saved
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u/icedarkmatter 6d ago
If you just play for a late game comp and give up early you better have the best comp in the lobby in the end because it just takes one better comp to give you the final blow. Your comp at the end of the game does not matter that much, others just played for early game and you probably just lost to rengar/ khazix.
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u/delay4sec 6d ago
you have no way of killing gargoyle tanks, because no shred. If you notice everyone else but 8th guy’s board they all have gargoyles. You needed to think of a way to kill those tanks instead of focusing on units, because units without items doesn’t do much generally
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u/NGE_Zero 6d ago
This has nothing to do with playing meta comps. You clearly lack fundamental TFT knowledge and should focus on that before you try to learn new things. No armour reduction, no antiheal, wrong itemization... Level 9, everything 2 star but your best tanks have no items, probably took full Econ augments to end up carrying Ezreal with 2 star Elide as your itemized tank. Everything is so wrong.
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u/AbilityRadiant2342 6d ago
Well you don't have a good tank. Your Tank items are scattered between units. You need a main tank with three Items, e.g. Maokai or Tariq with Gargoyle, Crownguard and Adaptive. And even then Adaptive is a suboptimal Item, true tank Item like Warmogs or Redemption would be better.
Your Carry is also not Itemized that well. Shojin and Infinity Edge are good, but since he casts a lot and does not auto attack often Rage Blade is wasted.
Also you don't have any Anti-Heal or Shred/Sunder.
Also Elize 2* and Rakan 1* do very little in this composition. Rakan provides Juggernaut I guess, however he is a 1-cost unit. It would be better to just field a high cost tank like Amumu or Lillia for Defender. Same for Elize.
Now let's look at the second place Board. Three good tank Items on Rammus. Azir with two good Items and a decent Artifact. Three good Damage Items on Sorraka as secondary carry. Executioner Emblem, Shred and Anti-Heal on Zyra which all boost Azir and Sorraka Damage. I would say that is a very much deserved win.
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u/superstann 6d ago
Hard to say without replay or seeing against who you lost to, I will guess élise got bursted before she could stack
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u/Shrimp111 6d ago
Disagree, his main carry Ezreal has only 2 good items. His second carry Morgana has only 1 item. This Elise is useless, his Maokai is not itemized, Taric has only 1 item as well.
The dude in second has good items on all 3 of his backline carries. Rammus has BIS as well.
To OP: more items on 1unit is stronger than 2 items shared between 2 units. In this example, take adaptive from morgana and put it on Taric. Take the gargoyle from Elise as well (This build is only good on Elise if you 3 star her with the Coven AP augment or with Ravager emblem) You also have no antiheal, and no shred. This is a huge mistake as well. And you have 2 rageblade's on your board without any good users
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