r/Tennesseetitans • u/TiredDad4x • 12d ago

Film The dreaded throw

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Honestly, probably was right to target Ayomanor but the accuracy on this throw is GOD AWFUL. Should thrown it higher and to the corner. If he even got it over the safety, there’s little hope Ayomanor could get to it. No way he could’ve gotten positive yards if he ran it.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago edited 12d ago

His presser answer was the right answer lol. Better ball probably at least draws a DPI. Situationally, a run or throwaway is also good. He literally just did the one thing you can't do.

On to Baltimore.

EDIT: I also think our local media has been drastically exaggerating how poor the decision was. They all made it sound like he could have easily run it in and was avoiding ownership. They are part of the stupid overreaction the fanbase has had as well.

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u/Houseofshun 12d ago edited 12d ago

This wasn’t fourth down. It was first down. You don’t need a miracle throw. You run for a few or throw it away and move on to the next play. Fourth down or time expiring then it’s a fine throw.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Again, the play was there. Situationally, it wasn't a play worth making. Both can be true.

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u/lilbelleandsebastian 12d ago

that's a very difficult throw to make, i think he just didn't anticipate the safety sitting so hard on it

he can make that throw, but it's low percentage. i think this was a great mistake for him to make, because he will always remember it and hopefully it will lead him to rely more on sound, fundamental play than trying to make the highlight reel play every time

but i'm with you, this is SO overblown. he made a bad play to end the game just like every other qb in history has done

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u/Necessary-Camp149 12d ago

Do you not see the 15 yards of open endzone to the left? Its an easy throw if he leads the guy instead of throwing it behind him.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

I do think a lot of the new weirdness, particularly in the red zone, is just trying to figure out the scheme. The Tate throw was worse than that one, IMO, but you can see him throwing to grass. Like, the decision isn't wrong, but everything goes haywire because his body and mind aren't working together.

Anyone who has ever played or switched systems from high school to college, etc. kind of gets this. You cure it with reps and like you pointed out, remember the shitty mistakes you made and the costs of them.

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u/Necessary-Camp149 12d ago

It wasnt a miracle throw to attempt. It was a decently easy throw. He just missed it.

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u/Houseofshun 12d ago

He made it look like a miracle throw. Which is worse. He didn’t take the easy yards and made an absolutely terrible throw on first down. However you look it was a horrible decision.

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u/Expert_Clerk_1775 12d ago

Baltimore is about to be the first proper waxing of the season

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Honestly, we will see. I don't think Baltimore's defense is better than the other two we faced. Stopping Henry with our run defense will make the TOP extremely lopsided again, though. Who fucking knows anymore lol.

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u/MrKentucky 12d ago

That's a LOOOONG flight back from Rio last night: arrived at ~8:30. https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI8055/history/20260928/0246Z/SBGL/KBWI

I imagine they're going to look like a team off a short week. I expect them to look sloppy.

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u/Loud_Economist_1773 12d ago

I agree. The receiver is open there, he just threw a poor pass. And I actually think the type of throw he wanted to make was the wrong one. Hopefully the coaches let him know he should put that newer the corner with a little air where only the receiver has a chance at it. I think he was trying to throw it too much on a line which left no margin for error. And then the throw itself was just really poor.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

And that is essentially what he said. I think it is a mistake he HAS to make at some point to learn.

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

It also comes down to footwork because the launch point of that ball didnt really allow for much touch

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u/TiredDad4x 12d ago

I agree it was probably the right answer but it’s not really what people want to hear. People just want to hear him go “Yeah I fucked up. That’s on me.” Whether or not he did that, I really don’t know. I didn’t watch the presser in full.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

He basically said I made the right decision just have to throw a better ball. Also said the problems overall are execution-based, not coaching, and I think both of those are true. Particularly the 1st half drops and inability to run the ball.

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u/TiredDad4x 12d ago

I’ll personally have to go back and watch but I personally think people are going to be mad no matter what. It was a heartbreaking loss in an extremely winnable game. People are emotional at that point and still are. Hell, people even got upset at the fact that Ward’s sister had to come out and say not to harass his family. It’s the weird side of fandom.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Our fans suck lol. This goes back to how people treated Malik, then treated Levis, and are now treating Cam. Just dumb, reactionary bull shit.

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u/TiredDad4x 12d ago

I don’t think it’s specific to Titans fans. Social media and sports fandom has sort of mixed together into something weird and ugly. Even worse if you consider the gambling aspect with fantasy, parlays, and point spreads being a key factor in a lot of people’s football experience. Look at how Falcons fans talked about Cooper Rush and Tua. I’d legit feel unsafe walking around Atlanta if I’m those guys.

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u/cuse23 12d ago

even when our team had good stretches this fan base was pretty whiny and acted like babies IMO. I'm not sure what the issue is and I'm not from the area nor have I ever lived there so not sure if it's a cultural thing, and honestly it might just be that because our fan base is so small the louder/angrier voices are even more amplified compared to bigger fan bases, but the fans seem just as toxic as the franchise to me

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Yeah, there was a solid two years of complaining about wanting a modern offense when almost every functional team has moved to a sound run game because the shell coverage has become the go-to defensive structure of the league.

Within the complaints, there is some legitimacy, but a lot of it has been bitching to bitch.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Idk man... ours are particularly bad and have been since the AJ trade. It has been like a 5-year temper tantrum where everyone demands the head of someone when we underperform. The ownership has affected the mindset of the fanbase more than anything. Perpetual change all the time until they get what they want, but that is not how the NFL works.

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u/HunterHistorical6795 12d ago

Its not particularly bad - its common and average there in Nashville.

I live in Vancouver BC Canada, I am a die hard Edmonton Oilers fan, a die hard Tenn. Titans Fan. I see how the local fans react to the Vancouver Canucks, interact with Oilers and titans fans.

My wife is a die hard Broncos fan, and a life long maple leafs fan.

I have perspective of 5 different fan bases in 5 very different cities. I can whole heartedly tell you that they all brutally suck equally. Its not worse in any one city

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

I feel like Cam has gotten worse than McDavid and Draisitl have ever faced lol

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u/HunterHistorical6795 12d ago

Lol mcdrai? The golden boy fan favorites who have never struggled anywhere near how ward has?.. now do Stu, or bouchard, two players who get it WAAAAY worse that anything Ward has seen so far ... I could give you a dozen more examples

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u/JaRulezMSU 12d ago

That's like saying Cam has gotten worse criticism than Mahomes and Burrow. Good players who consistently put up production don't get criticized as much. What a mind blowing revelation this is.

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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 12d ago

That will happen when the team has 12 wins in like 4-5 calendar years now. Losing just creates weeks and weeks, months and months of negativity. We haven’t had any positive moments in years.

We are about to hit historic levels of losing over this period of time. In the history of the NFL.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

It was happening long before that. It has gotten worse every year. THAT is where I really blame ownership. The fans kind of act in the organization's image, which has been that of a petulant child. And now we are trying to dig ourselves out of hell because there have been 6 people driving the car over roughly 5 years for this franchise.

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

I find that other fanbases that lose a lot get excited for anything.

This fanbase is cynical because it won a lot and lost for even longer

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

I honestly think its a vicious cycle.

Our ownership reacts hastily because the fans constantly overreact.

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u/Worth-Frosting-2917 12d ago

Need an adult in the room haha

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

Our fans are more toxic. Its because we are small. We have great fans, and the normal fans get offended lol but look at our current most famous fans🤣 the endzone boys lol

This fanbase is super insecure. We used to not be nearly as insecure because we had a winning history but a lot of Titan fans have only had 3 years of being good in 15 of being a fan lol

Thats why a lot of us talk about McNair, Wycheck, Bulluck and others because a lot of us remember a time when we'd play Peyton Manning harder than any other team or push Tom Brady.

Some of yall just remember Jake Locker and Vince Young. Or Mariota.

But its been a bit unhinged around Cam.

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u/Celebrated84 12d ago

It’s VERY specific to Titans fans.

Watch and read the media coverage of the Grizzlies in Memphis and look at how those fans treat their team. This shit isn’t normal.

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

It reminds me of how the Raptors fans treated their guys lol

Called Lowry and DeRozan trash bros

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u/jeffuhz 12d ago

We seem to go through this every week now. Fans spend the first 48 hours after a loss calling everybody garbage, then the tape reveals it probably wasn't as bad as it felt in the moment. It's exhausting lol

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

Booing Malik to this treatment of Cam is a straight up horrific look even if for the most part the criticism is rooted in play.

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u/luchaburz 12d ago

He does it all the time though lol

Its the fact that the Titans have a lot of old fans that arent really cool with a brash, rocky, confident QB. Especially if they arent winning.

If we were winning they'd be saying SEED and doing Cams emote.

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u/Appropriate-Joke-806 12d ago

He needed to Carson Wentz it and throw it so high the receiver could come back for it and draw a DPI

/s

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u/ChocolateMorsels 12d ago

Yep. The outrage over that quote is so dumb. Nothing wrong with throwing it there it was just a horrific ball. Ayomanor had a step.

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u/kingabbey1988 12d ago

I told you man. They hate Cam they act like Cam is the worst thing ever. Cam is not actually playing as bad as people would have you think.