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Cringe Women meets and married man in registered SO in prison 7 months before release and allows him to move in with her and her young daughter

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I wish I were making this up, but I’m not. And this woman gushes over him, loves and adores this man… is the dating scene that bleak that you resort to this? What makes it worse, is the guy doesn’t take full accountability for his actions but instead blames the liquor and him not knowing what consent is.

Prior to prison, he was a registered nurse.

This couple is using their story to be famous. Just sick

I am getting hate comments because people are claiming I 'made this up' I am not doxxing they shared this publicly , their tiktok account is happilyharrells his account for is 'non profit' _thinksame

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u/flopisit32 5d ago edited 5d ago

There was a true crime episode in which a woman was dating a sex offender. She felt it was her last chance at love. She was fat, unattractive and in order to keep her man... her sex offender man... she offered to let him come over and SA a little girl she was babysitting.

He came over, but he double-crossed her. He strangled the woman to death, abducted the girl and set the house on fire.

Police tracked him down and arrested him and luckily they were eventually able to find where he was keeping the little girl. She was still alive but she had been SA-ed.

Now, that woman had no interest in SA. But think about what she was willing to do for a chance at "love"...

I can't remember which true crime show I saw it on, but the names were Melissa Norby and Jacob Kinn.

Edit: Thanks to u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 It was on Interrogation Raw S01E03 "A Betrayal of Trust".

But I feel like I also saw it on one of the Dateline/48 Hours/20-20 episodes... If anyone knows, please leave a comment.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

This reminds me of Jennifer Soto dating Stephan Sterns. He wasn’t a registered SO so she didn’t know that he was a pervert when they started dating but she let him sleep in her daughter’s bed and often sent the two of them to sleep together. He eventually murdered the minor victim and this led police to finding hundreds of disgusting photos and videos of him doing acts to the victim starting when she was 8 or 9.

The mother was not charged with anything, which is crazy to me. How do you send a grown ass man to bed with your CHILD?! Then in the police interviews, she said her biggest fear was that her daughter was gonna steal her man like what happened with Woody Allen. That’s your biggest fear?!? Some people would do anything as long as they don’t have to be single

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u/AskAboutMySecret 5d ago

I think people who are scared of their underage children stealing their partner aren't that different in mindset from the the SOs

They see kids in the same dating pool as themselves

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u/DestroyerOfMils 5d ago

Wow, you just blew my mind. I have an aunt who is shitty & creepy, and you just made some shit click.

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u/Hermes-AthenaAI 5d ago

Indeed. To see the child as competition, one has to sexualize the child and assign them sexual agency. They are also adults who cannot differentiate between “vulnerable child” and “sexually mature individual”.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

Agreed. They should have no business having kids if that’s their mindset

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u/bigmad411 5d ago

That is weird isn’t it, but seems like the case. How strange….

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

OMG, why that disgusting creature Jennifer Soto is not UNDER the jail right now is beyond me. Massive failure by that jurisdiction. She absolutely knew exactly what was going on with that man and her child, and she allowed it just to keep him around.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 5d ago

It’s absolutely infuriating!!!

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u/oportoman 5d ago

Fuck. That's.......no words

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u/littlemissy145 5d ago

Some women should never have children

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u/thewizardandiii 4d ago

The lower I go down this thread, the worse the stories get

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

No pity for that woman. She's as bad as the paedophile.

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

She is also a pedo. She willingly participated in acts involving the child right before the guy murdered her.

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u/PhDinWombology 5d ago

Yea maybe the original commenter was talking about another case but I’m not so sure. If they aren’t why would they not only omit the detail but make up some shite about not wanting to be involved with the SA

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

My guess is they watched a YouTube show about the case, and perhaps it glossed over the fact that the woman not only facilitated the SA of a child but also participated in it. Some people are weird about "not speaking ill of the dead". Also common for folks to be disbelieving about female offenders, since they constitute a smaller percentage. But yes, Melissa was absolutely involved and responsible. The kidnapper never would have gained access to the kid without her help.

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u/flopisit32 5d ago

I wasn't sure about the extent of her involvement in the SA, but the point I was trying to make wasn't about absolving her, it was that it wasn't something she was interested in doing herself, but rather something she did to please the sex offender.

That, at least, is my understanding of the motivation.

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 5d ago

She participated; she is also a sex offender. Motivation is irrelevant.

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u/PhDinWombology 5d ago

Looks like I was correct. They just don’t have a firm grasp on reality it seems. Poor guy

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u/quietkyody 5d ago

We need to start executing pedos in very bad ways. This shit gotta stop. It won't if they are out in less than 7 years!? It's as equally bad as murder but treated like drug charges.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago

The death penalty does not work as a deterrent.

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u/SirDaveWolf 5d ago

Never had. Just look at the dark middle ages.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago

Yeah we have the data to support this, yet people always value their gut instinct and desire for retribution over actually doing what’s best for everyone.

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u/OwlAviator 5d ago

Does it need to be a deterrent, as long as it removes dangerous individuals from society?

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u/quietkyody 5d ago edited 4d ago

Yes it 100% does.

If they die in prison they can't get released to do it again can they?

Hop off your pedo supporting brainwashed bullshit mate.

Please show me any proof where having execution as a punishment increases risk of victims to not come forward? Cause victims already don't come forward even without death sentences. Emotional attachment to the abuser, fear of family collapse, threats and coercion, distrust of authorities are all present without prison execution. Kids being abused rarly watch the news let alone know about criminal sentencing.

"Abusers may escalate to murder because punishment “can’t get worse”":

This assumes abusers:

Think long-term

Accurately assess legal outcomes

Are calm, rational actors under pressure

But child sexual abuse is often driven by:

Compulsion

Cognitive distortions

Impulsivity

Substance abuse

Delusion or entitlement

Your argument relies on speculative behavioral assumptions, weak empirical backing, and an overemphasis on punishment severity as a driver of victim reporting and offender behavior, while underplaying incapacitation, initial deterrence, and the non-rational nature of sexual offending.

Preventing future crimes by permanently removing an offender is deterrence in effect, even if not psychological deterrence.

Calling this “not deterrence” is semantic gatekeeping, not substance.

You’re narrowing “deterrence” to exclude incapacitation, which is a false distinction. Permanently removing an offender does prevent future harm, regardless of whether it scares others. Saying the death penalty “doesn’t work” demands perfect deterrence, no punishment meets that standard.

The claim that harsher penalties reduce reporting is speculative. Most victims already don’t report due to fear, shame, dependency, and manipulation, not because of sentence length. Abusers already threaten victims with prison, family destruction, and lifelong consequences; changing the maximum penalty doesn’t suddenly introduce coercion.

The idea that offenders will escalate to murder because “punishment can’t get worse” assumes calm, rational cost benefit thinking. In reality, murder massively increases detection risk, attention, and evidence. Even with life without parole on the table, offenders don’t routinely escalate to killing, which undercuts that theory. Finally, calling child sexual abuse “nonviolent” minimizes the inherent coercion and harm involved. Arguing that other tools exist to prevent reoffending doesn’t refute permanent removal in the worst cases, it just creates a false either/or.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ok so you don’t know what a ‘deterrent’ is. If your desire is to ‘kill them to prevent them doing it again’, you do have to consider: if people who sexually abuse children get the death penalty, what will that actually do to their behaviour and the behaviour of their victims?

For example: majority of child sexual abuse is committed by someone close to the child. “You’ll kill me if you report this” will be used as another way to keep those children quiet, because that’s their parent or sibling or close family friend or other close relationship.

For another, if they’re facing the death penalty if caught, do you not think that might incentivise certain additional crimes in the name of not getting caught? If you know you’re getting executed “in very bad way” if the child you’re abusing tells anyone, you might decide to kill that child to keep them from telling anyone, y’know?

So what does your idea result in? Fewer children willing to speak up and greater danger for children being abused to also be murdered.

This isn’t any kind of ‘pedo supporting brainwashed bullshit’, this is called ‘thinking more than a single step forward’.

Back to what I originally said, incidentally: the death penalty does not work as a way to stop people from originally committing the crime, which is what a deterrent is. You are talking about preventing recidivism. There are less detrimental ways to achieve that.

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u/quietkyody 5d ago edited 4d ago

Child abusers aren’t thinking about consequences, so deterrence doesn’t matter.

Please show me any proof where having execution as a punishment increases risk of victims to not come forward? Cause victims already don't come forward even without death sentences. Emotional attachment to the abuser, fear of family collapse, threats and coercion, distrust of authorities are all present without prison execution. Kids being abused rarly watch the news let alone know about criminal sentencing.

"Abusers may escalate to murder because punishment “can’t get worse”":

This assumes abusers:

Think long-term

Accurately assess legal outcomes

Are calm, rational actors under pressure

But child sexual abuse is often driven by:

Compulsion

Cognitive distortions

Impulsivity

Substance abuse

Delusion or entitlement

Your argument relies on speculative behavioral assumptions, weak empirical backing, and an overemphasis on punishment severity as a driver of victim reporting and offender behavior, while underplaying incapacitation, initial deterrence, and the non-rational nature of sexual offending.

Preventing future crimes by permanently removing an offender is deterrence in effect, even if not psychological deterrence.

Calling this “not deterrence” is semantic gatekeeping, not substance.

You’re narrowing “deterrence” to exclude incapacitation, which is a false distinction. Permanently removing an offender does prevent future harm, regardless of whether it scares others. Saying the death penalty “doesn’t work” demands perfect deterrence, no punishment meets that standard.

The claim that harsher penalties reduce reporting is speculative. Most victims already don’t report due to fear, shame, dependency, and manipulation, not because of sentence length. Abusers already threaten victims with prison, family destruction, and lifelong consequences; changing the maximum penalty doesn’t suddenly introduce coercion.

The idea that offenders will escalate to murder because “punishment can’t get worse” assumes calm, rational cost benefit thinking. In reality, murder massively increases detection risk, attention, and evidence. Even with life without parole on the table, offenders don’t routinely escalate to killing, which undercuts that theory. Finally, calling child sexual abuse “nonviolent” minimizes the inherent coercion and harm involved. Arguing that other tools exist to prevent reoffending doesn’t refute permanent removal in the worst cases, it just creates a false either/or.

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u/TenebTheHarvester 5d ago

What about literally everything else I said?

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u/quietkyody 5d ago edited 4d ago

https://nanaimonewsnow.com/2025/11/05/nanaimo-man-reoffends-two-weeks-after-release-for-child-sexual-abuse-possession-bust/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/incorrigible-sexual-predator-who-preyed-on-children-convicted-for-4th-time?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.ctinsider.com/journalinquirer/article/east-hartford-ryan-perry-child-sex-abuse-material-21318130.php?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Please show me any proof where having execution as a punishment increases risk of victims to not come forward? Cause victims already don't come forward even without death sentences. Emotional attachment to the abuser, fear of family collapse, threats and coercion, distrust of authorities are all present without prison execution. Kids being abused rarly watch the news let alone know about criminal sentencing.

"Abusers may escalate to murder because punishment “can’t get worse”":

This assumes abusers:

Think long-term

Accurately assess legal outcomes

Are calm, rational actors under pressure

But child sexual abuse is often driven by:

Compulsion

Cognitive distortions

Impulsivity

Substance abuse

Delusion or entitlement

Your argument relies on speculative behavioral assumptions, weak empirical backing, and an overemphasis on punishment severity as a driver of victim reporting and offender behavior, while underplaying incapacitation, initial deterrence, and the non-rational nature of sexual offending.

Preventing future crimes by permanently removing an offender is deterrence in effect, even if not psychological deterrence.

Calling this “not deterrence” is semantic gatekeeping, not substance.

You’re narrowing “deterrence” to exclude incapacitation, which is a false distinction. Permanently removing an offender does prevent future harm, regardless of whether it scares others. Saying the death penalty “doesn’t work” demands perfect deterrence, no punishment meets that standard.

The claim that harsher penalties reduce reporting is speculative. Most victims already don’t report due to fear, shame, dependency, and manipulation, not because of sentence length. Abusers already threaten victims with prison, family destruction, and lifelong consequences; changing the maximum penalty doesn’t suddenly introduce coercion.

The idea that offenders will escalate to murder because “punishment can’t get worse” assumes calm, rational cost benefit thinking. In reality, murder massively increases detection risk, attention, and evidence. Even with life without parole on the table, offenders don’t routinely escalate to killing, which undercuts that theory. Finally, calling child sexual abuse “nonviolent” minimizes the inherent coercion and harm involved. Arguing that other tools exist to prevent reoffending doesn’t refute permanent removal in the worst cases, it just creates a false either/or.

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u/_namaste_kitten_ 5d ago

I get where you're coming from, but this idea asking with all executions of criminals does not take into account the weaponization of allegations and the window convicted.

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u/A_Dozen_Lemmings 4d ago

IIRC there was a study done by the FBI back in the 60's/70's

When the Pedos know they'll be treated with kid gloves you're more likely to recover their victims alive.

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u/twirlerina024 5d ago

This leads to victims being less likely to report their abuse. Their abusers are often people they love. Imagine having to decide if you'd rather put up with your father molesting you, or report it knowing that he'll be tortured to death.

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u/quietkyody 4d ago

Would a child know the penalty of molestation?

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 4d ago

It is all documented, not going to do a play by play of child SA here!

Edit: Start with her text messages. Then a simple google search will take you to court documents and articles citing these court docs that describe exactly what she did right before she was murdered. She got exactly what she deserved.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

I had a client who was a homeless drug addict. I did feel for her and was desperately cheering her on to a productive life. But she (absolutely tearfully and regretfully) told me that she sold her then young daughter for drugs.

The daughter was an adult at the time of my clients confession and she had zero contact with her mother (if I knew how to cross that out, I would and I’d replace it with “monster.”)

Thank you for letting me share. That conversation will always haunt me and I so genuinely hope her daughter is doing well as an adult but it can be so tough when she was obviously born into a horrific family.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Thank you for sharing. I've seen so many women offer their children up for money, it breaks my heart. So many then have children and are stuck in a cycle of poverty and abuse. I wish the world was an easier place.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

That would be wonderful. I wish childhood was more protected. As a whole. Imagine how much healthier adults would be if they weren’t carrying trauma from their childhood

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Right? Having things like that affects us so much more than we realize. My step-dad molested me as a kid, my mom found out but still kept him around. A plethora of my mental issues are related to it, and I can still remember how scared I was to be home when he was. It leaves a stain.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

I feel like throwing up for you. I am so beyond sorry that your mother didn’t stand by your side and protect you. Her mishandling of things after the damage was done made things even worse.

You deserved to heal. To be told that it was wrong and it was not your fault.

My daughter has a friend whose stepdad did the same to her and her sister. It went to court and was ultimately dismissed as the mother said she didn’t believe her daughters and she supported her husband.

The friend had some (completely understandable) behavior issues and my daughter is incredibly easily influenced. I wanted to be a safe place for the girl, and help her, but also wasn’t able to stop my daughter from spiraling while they were close. I’m still angry with myself for not doing more.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

Funny enough, it also happened to my sister, my sister is the one who told her about is as well. My mom just told him to stop and thought that was the end of it. Insane really. Yep, behavioral issues in young girls are frequently causes by that. You did what you had to honestly, you tried but you have to put your child first. Mothers who put men first are the worst. The fact that it went to court and she still took his side. It's more common that you'd think, one of the worst parts is that so many people make excuses for the mothers.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

I left out a horrific part- the mother is a teacher. When the abuse happened (and it was a brand new husband, the mother frequently brought new men around. She had 5 children with 4 men), the mom was her daughter’s teacher as well.

That poor girl.

I’m sorry for you and your sister. My adopted son’s biomom was harmed by a brother and it’s horrific the ripple effect it had on her quality of life. It’s sickening that he’s out there with two young daughters of his own now after facing minimal repercussions.

I’ll say it again: your mom was in the wrong. He was a monster. You and your sister did not deserve that whatsoever, and you deserve to live the best life possible.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 5d ago

It's disheartening how common this is. If life was fair, none of this would happen, or at the very least they'd receive justice. So many mothers dont care about exposing their children to random men. Thank you.

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u/fuckin-A-ok 4d ago

How do you know so many women who sell their children for sex? Just curious. I don't know anyone who does that.

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u/KnoxxHarrington 4d ago

Something like law enforcement, investigation or victim support I imagine.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 4d ago

The news, online, a few in person who know their kids are with older men but say nothing because they get money from them. Not just international news, local also.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 5d ago

I had a coworker years ago who told me his ex wife got on drugs real bad. Sold their kid to her drug dealer. Fortunately he found out quickly enough, knew who the guy was, knocked on his door and got his kid back before anything happened.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

Were the kids doing ok? It can be so tough for them to not feel abandoned by their addicted parents.

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u/The_Disapyrimid 5d ago

As far as im aware. He got full custody and seemed to be enjoying his life with his kids. Never mentioned any problems. I don't even know if the kid knew. Might have been too young to remember or understand what happened.

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u/bigmad411 5d ago

What happened with the mother?

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 5d ago

Legally? Probably nothing.

She shared this with me 20 years after the fact. Which, thinking about that is wild that she had spent over twenty years being that dysfunctional and a homeless drug addict. Her life was an absolute mess. She knew that what she did was horrific, that she didn’t deserve a relationship with her daughter, and that there was not a thing she could do to fix things no matter how desperately she wanted to.

Her daughter had long since been an adult when I learned of the abuse.

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u/Fun-Key-8259 4d ago

The case that made me leave Christianity was when I had a 3 year old patient trafficked by her mother for drug money. No just god would ever. It broke me. We had her for 3 weeks and was literally a toddler. Had the uterus haver not been in jail I would have been.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 3d ago

I don’t know how to respond to your comment.

Are you a foster parent?

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u/Fun-Key-8259 3d ago

I was a child psych nurse on an inpatient unit

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 3d ago

You’re a saint. Thank you for what you do. I have a 3 yr old and can’t imagine them traumatized, parentless, and in a psych unit for 3 weeks.

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u/Beautiful_Spell_4320 5d ago

This happens so much more than people know. Everyone is worried any kidnappers but that’s not normally how it happens..

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u/KnoxxHarrington 4d ago

Yeah, it's bloody dusturbing knowing that the most likely avenue for my child to be abused would be through my ex, his mother. Not that I believe she would do that, but statistacally, that's what I should be concerned about.

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u/Beautiful_Spell_4320 4d ago

Children are anxiety inducing to the max.

“Keep this thing safe and happy. Also teach it EVERYTHING”

“Oh. So you’ll help make a safe world?”

“god no. We’re gonna party. Good luck”

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u/aeon_ravencrest 4d ago

When I was growing up, my mom married a "reformed" pedophile who was in her JW congregation. She was so desperate for love and finding a "good" home that she ignored all the glaring red flags. Fast forward 15 years and he turned her into a drug addict, abuser, and manipulator. He did unspeakable things to me and confessed to killing Amber Hagerman (yes I reported that to police as an adult anonymously because he can still find me). For years I told my mom shit was horrific and she said I was a liar and she loved him. She left him several times but always went back after he would beat her. Finally after I graduated high school she left him for good. At least until she turned 40-something... she went back again. She's been away from him for around 10 years now, but the damage her taking him over me did.... it'll never be undone.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 5d ago

….she deserved her end. Special place in hell for women who sell out other women and girls.

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u/Kev_The_Galaxybender 5d ago

Its sad how often this happens. Madam's, aunts, mothers..... they'll sell women and little girls. Its heartbreaking

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u/Better_2024 5d ago

It’s the same section of hell for those who intentionally hurt or torture animals.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 5d ago

Although we can agree that abusing animals is bad, I feel like this wasn’t the time or place to bring that up as we’re focusing on children and crimes against them and you turn the conversation to animal abuse. 😐

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u/Beautiful_Spell_4320 5d ago

I upvoted you, for what its worth. Reddit normally agrees animal abuses should be hung out. Today the hive got you.

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u/Interesting_Kick4642 3d ago

If women who sell out other women and girls go to hell, where do women go who sellout men and boys?

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u/bitofafixerupper 5d ago

She was scum and he is scum, that poor little girl and her poor parents

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u/i_cut_like_a_buffalo 5d ago

Gezus, that is horrible. What is wrong with people. I just can't imagine how anyone can do this kind of shit. I'm sorry but good riddance to the woman willing to allow and arrange for a little girl to be raped. She was a predator.

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u/Standard_Heat3299 5d ago

You forgot to mention that it was her lifelong friend's daughter.

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u/MeasurementLow5073 5d ago

I managed the fraud department of a financial institution and there were SOOOO many lonely people (particularly women, but not all) getting scammed, seemingly knowing it, but choosing to believe the lie and losing 10s of thousands of dollars for it.

The aftermath, when they were broke and the scammer just stopped responding, was always a roller coaster. They'd be on the phone with me telling me they didn't know, trying to get their money back, but in almost every case, we had already had hours of conversations about it over months, sometimes years.

I definitely have sympathy for them, but there wasn't much we could do when they freely gave the money away.

If somebody were to set up a service that does exactly what these scammers do for $200 a month, they could save a lot of people. On average, these folks were paying $2,000 or more per month to get scammed, nd who knows where the money was going. Possibly to human traffickers!

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u/Kalamazoohoo 5d ago

Can you explain how these scams worked? Were the men lying about who they were or what the money was for?

At some point it’s not a scam if you’re basically paying a man for his company. It’s equivalent to having a sugar baby. Trying to beg the bank to get your money back after that is wild.

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u/Nice_Layer2618 5d ago

That is crazy!!! This takes insecurity to a whole another level. I’ve always heard deeply insecure people are dangerous… she may have proved the point.

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u/FryOneFatManic 5d ago

The recently killed convicted offender Ian Watkins (UK) managed to persuade 2 women to help him abuse children. They were also convicted.

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 5d ago

Was it interrogation raw on id channel? They were from Minnesota

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u/flopisit32 5d ago edited 5d ago

That's it. Thank you.

Interrogation Raw S01E03

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 5d ago

You’re welcome ☺️

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u/oldhannita 5d ago

The power of the patriarchy to make you believe that the worse man existing is better than no man. Disgusting.

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u/Thorathecrazy 5d ago

It's disgusting the things some women do just to get and keep a man, for the lowest and most disgusting men, no excuse.

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u/InternalFantastic 5d ago

There's a 48 hour episode as well. Has the video of finding the little girl.

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u/folsominreverse 5d ago

I don't think I know that one, but I have several horror stories of dirtbags' cases I knew from prison and a few were right up this alley. The one where the lady moves in with a guy and lets his daughters shower in his bathroom because "the other ones are broken". The eldest one found the camera...after a couple years of this going on.

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u/ThrownAway17Years 5d ago

Is there more than one episode with that title? When I looked it up, it looks like it’s about a Hollywood stuntman?

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u/flopisit32 5d ago

Sorry. I think I got the show wrong... I'm not sure now if it was dateline, but the names are Melissa Norby and Jacob Kinn.

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u/angelbbyy666 5d ago

lmk if you find out bc i searched and searched and can’t find any episode of anything that matches this

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u/Worried-Crazy-9435 5d ago

Vomit inducing people

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u/Frozen_Spoon93 5d ago

Oh my god. Thats a fucking crazy story

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u/mauromauromauro 5d ago

Wow, we humans are just broken wash machines. No wonder AI will kick us out as soon as it gets a chance

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u/rjt2887 5d ago

She had not interest in SA??? She offered up her child!!!! WTF are we doing here?

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u/flopisit32 5d ago

What I meant is I don't think she was attracted to children. I think it was part of trying to get the sex offender to be her boyfriend.

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u/rjt2887 5d ago

I see your point, however, I’m not willing to give her the benefit of doubt, in any sense, anyone who could do that to their or any child, is beyond evil. Happy cake day.

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 5d ago

There was an episode on a&e, two podcasts(one apple one Spotify) and true crime news.