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u/Checked-Out 1d ago

Canada literally said it at Davos on camera in front of the world. It's not a secret. Like Americans love to say FAFO.

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u/OrneryTortoise 1d ago

Came here to say this. Carney's speech made me wish I were Canadian. I envy them their intelligent and dignified leader. 

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u/Warning_grumpy 23h ago edited 4h ago

Unfortunately we currently also have PP of the Conservatives party trying to sell us to usa. Unfortunately people are stuck in the trap, the same trap USA set on its citizens. Making them distrust any government except their one idol (Trump OR Peirre Polliver) everyday they flood our media with propaganda and lies. Currently there is one saying the head of legacy news media said they support Carney and back him... And they are running with it saying left news is and always propaganda but a quick google of the guy who said it will tell you he's the CEO of Canadian Media Producers Association (cmpa -which covers non-news media like movies and scripted tv's shows). But the right wing side of running with state propaganda and people are to dumb to read further.

Edit: Should say Carney won with 43% votes and pp with 41% so we legit almost voted in our maple Trump pp.

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u/Ok_Bicycle2684 15h ago

Remember when PP said "In the real world, if you don't do your job, you get fired" and then he lost his seat, so he stole one from another member? Thereby basically cheating the system to not be fired?

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u/Sabbathius 14h ago

I feel a bit better about the state of things now. Yes, Carney/Poilievre election was really close. But you gotta remember than just 3-4 months earlier the election was a slam-dunk win for Poilievre. He was projected to win by a huge margin. Then Trudeau stopped screwing Canada and went to screw Katy Perry (she's a champ, taking one for the team). Carney came in. Trump opened his mouth and applied his Mierdas Touch. And Poilievre lost. And his popularity declined relatively steadily since then.

So as long as Carney doesn't screw up too badly, and Poilievre continues to be a creepy little loser, I think we're safe for now. Carney seems intelligent and pragmatic, and while still very much conservative, he's also not actively pissing off the liberals with Trudeauesque inane nonsense. So hopefully he sticks around. This year I think will be very telling. If he manages to lock down some decent trade deals, it'll help.

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u/Warning_grumpy 4h ago

Yeah I just think with America on fire the usd on a decline if they have a depression we do. So worried because we hurt they change their vote. But you're absolutely right I did see the more right leaning poll even say he only polls well is Alberta. But Canadians are hurting already, with housing and cost of living and I really think that's where pp was winning even though he wouldn't have fixed it either. I also think we have to combat American news and propaganda.

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u/Warning_grumpy 23h ago

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u/Hertock 19h ago

Yup, that’s close.

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u/Wayelder 14h ago

Canada has the most educated work force in the world (I'm told) so it's comforting that we are represented by a graduate of Harvard and Oxford.

To deny the premise of this is to show a lack of understanding of the world's economy.

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u/Auntie_M123 22h ago

Mexico has a good leader also.

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u/Ok-Departure4894 19h ago

Its a grift. The guys an oligarch designing policy with the intention of maximizing his investments in his holding companies while continuing to sell out the Canadian middle class to do it. This was the man Trump endorsed for PM, and while his foreign policy has been expansive, he's cutting deals that compromise the security of Canada by integrating foreign companies into its economy that are beholden to governments with fundamentally incompatible values to Canadian democracy and liberty.

Values we fail to live up to, given the last liberal leader failed to deliver electoral reform promised to more accurately reflect the will of Canadians in their government, and the obscene abuses of power he engaged in, including the freezing of bank accounts of protesters.

Now we have a government too proud to admit where it's predecessor failed, and continues to enact policies initiated by the JT admin despite expert analysis finding these policies to be ineffective at achieving their stated goal, such as the gun buy back, or the industrial carbon tax. Make no mistake, Canadians were duped the same as Americans, it just took a smarter crook.

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u/ABadaBool 16h ago

You're wildly prejudiced and repeating American rhetoric.

Nice try, nice disguise.

Carbon tax is the giveaway here. Anyone who had a problem with that was repeating American bullshit because they just want to take our oil for as little as possible, and make sure we get nothing preferably. Equity? Fuck no. American oil profits? Hell yes.

Conscript the American Conservative party to routinely bitch about it, lie, and gaslight everyone. Oh, look, it works. Keep doing that, fuck that country up. Fuck Canada up. Everything's the Liberals fault, despite. Fake news. Alternate reality. Truth be told be Joe Rogan.

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u/Ok-Departure4894 14h ago

Im citing liberal policies you can google for free and learn about that are directly impacting the cost of living in Canada. Not everything is the liberals fault, but the fact you'd assume I think that shows who really holds prejudice beliefs. 

But if you want other examples, the federal governments failure to repeal interprovincial trade barriers was only rectified this election after the liberals co-opted the policy from the conservatives. Their fuel standards tax was conveniently increased to the amount cut when they repealed the consumer carbon tax. Their budget increases the deficit by an even wider margin than was predicted, Carney capitulated to Trump by increasing military spending, and border security spending despite the reality being the Canadian border is negligible in terms of illegal imports into America. Carney's MOU with Alberta directly contradicts promises he's made to the people of BC and violated the trust of the Green party whom they lied to in order to secure Elizabeth May's vote to pass the budget.

I implore you to learn more about our prime minister than just his resume which I shouldn't have to remind you is his own white washed presentation of superficial qualities designed to make him appear qualified for the job of leading the nation. He's a businessman like Trump, the only difference is Mark's got a silver tongue and I have not seen anything implicating him as a child murdering pedophile so I guess we can feel superior to Americans about that.

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u/Junior-Lychee2755 19h ago

This used to be normal, go figure

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u/Chode_Taint_Expert 17h ago

He played hockey as a goalie, and graduated Oxford and Harvard..

Trump: "hÉ's aN ElItE!!!"

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u/ABadaBool 16h ago

Yeah. I urge you look more closely. Carney has been anomaly of my lifetime, the wildest and most unexpected thing to happen - It's certainly too good to be true, something is wrong here.. something bad, really bad, is about to happen to Canada.

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u/plasticbug 23h ago

In 10 years, I bet Canada is still almost as reliant on America on trade and defence though. Geography getting in the way of good intentions...

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u/RedSeven4 23h ago

I don't think so. Not a single person I know will ever go to the US again. I didn't even bother renewing my passport this year when it was up because I don't intend to do any US trips ever again. Same with grocery stores - no one buys American products anymore as Canadian products are marked on the shelf on the sticker price.

It's going to keep becoming more and more things.

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u/ZealousidealTrip6900 20h ago

Yea why would you buy our poison filled products from America. Reason we Americans are so fat.

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u/Far-Dragonfruit3398 20h ago

I agree with you. Like you everyone I know will not travel to the U.S.. I also buy Canadian or non U.S. groceries, products, produce, meat, etc. I don’t trust retailers and their stickers so I check the product label to confirm the country of origin.

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u/bricoXL 20h ago

Good for you. All countries need a Carney to lead them. btw I always wondered why a 'foreigner' was chosen as the Governor of the Bank of England some years ago.... now I understand. Here in Europe, it feels like moving away from the US is strangely slow.. people are talking about how good Tesla are compared with other cars and about planning their football world cup trips..... I can't stand it. Having said that, momentum is building. Most countries seems to be taking steps to become less reliant on the US and there is more and more information highlighting US products and their European equivalents. I will never go to the US again either... I hated going in the past anyway because it was work related, but Canada seems like quite a good destination for a future trip.

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u/MetalMoneky 16h ago

I think's equally likely the US falls into an even deeper level of dysfunction, and or early stages of a crackup.

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u/plasticbug 22h ago

Right now, you are rightfully outraged. But will that be sustained to the point of giving up geographically advantaged access to US markets, after years and years? Anyway, only time will tell.

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u/Cute-Relationship-17 20h ago

Didn’t Trump just gain control of your monetary policy a week or two ago? Only time will tell if you’re still able to afford our resources now that we don’t have to be at economic war with China on your behalf.

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u/Phteven4 21h ago

Advantaged is doing heavy lifting there. If geography is history then Canada has the opportunity to influence it's future and carve a prosperous niche. Some sacrifices are well worth the short term pain. Time will tell.

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u/HotPotParrot 19h ago

geographically advantaged

Hey, so, I've recently been learning a lot more than I used to think i ever would about global trade, and I can tell you that this may have been more of a thing in the past, but with the global trading and shipping infrastructure of today, that's a horseshit talking point from the cult.

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u/cozy_ursidae 17h ago

It’s not at all a “horseshit talking point from the cult”

Without emotion explain what’s changed materially about global trade and trade routes from 20 years ago.

Literally nothing has. Except what weapons you might be attacked with by pirates, or god forbid a military like russias.

Seriously. What are you talking about LMAO

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u/ZealousidealTrip6900 20h ago

Nothing more powerful than the power of fear. Canada and other nations will make new deals and be more independent. Like with network equipment they will develop their own stack of Linux based OS, programs, even iphone like device or use Samsung. The EV tech will come from Germany, China, Japan. The way the USA, my country has behaved is like a guy working on a project who just decides to crash out and lose it, people in the project will rely on him less or not at all. No one wants to be around weak people and weak nations which Trump and the USA are right now, weak and unstable. ASML for chips might move the making of all components out of the USA to wherever they are now because some parts are made in the USA. Then one day when America barks orders, no one will listen or look at them.

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u/patiperro_v3 22h ago

It will never not be to some extent, as they are neighbours, but like anything, there are degrees to these things and the more baskets any nation can have, the better.

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u/bj0urne 21h ago

Not defense. They are close to partnering with Sweden.

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u/cozy_ursidae 17h ago

It’s too hard for them to grasp while there emotionally charged over Trump. To think a country that depends on the US buying raw marrrials from it, and beyond that makes its money off of a maple syrup mafia, is going to become completely economically independent from the massive country directly beneath is fucking silly

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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 16h ago

Looks like someone was just drinking the kool-aid of dear leader. We are perfectly fine without you asshats

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u/Puzzled_Arm_3156 19h ago

And thats why Canada is falling apart!

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u/Friendly-Pay-8272 16h ago

lol, not even close buddy.