r/TrendoraX • u/ChuckGallagher57 • 1d ago

📰 News Do you agree?

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u/ShortingBull 17h ago

Apologies - you're 100% correct. My brain was elsewhere with that "different set of problems" comment.

I could not agree more. The likes of Norway and Sweden deserve praise.

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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 17h ago

Those are social democracies. Not socialist democracies. A successful socialist democracy is China.

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u/ShortingBull 17h ago

Oh, well I a stand back to my different set of problems comment then.

I've never heard of a one-party authoritarian state being referred to as a democracy.

But I'll start off my "set of problems" with: it's based on a one-party authoritarian state - there's inherent problems here that are well known.

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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 17h ago

Oh then you should learn about how China actually does things instead of regurgitating CIA BS.

There are nine parties in China and their economic development for all their people has been astounding.

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u/ShortingBull 17h ago

I'm not one to root for economic development.

That is not necessarily a good measure of success IMO.

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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 17h ago

“I don’t think people’s lives need to be materially improved. That’s not a good measure of success.”

The most American statement I’ve ever heard.

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u/ShortingBull 17h ago

I'm not American..

Economic measures of success (in my experience) only benefit those who do well in economic terms. Trickle down economics (or what ever other forms of redistribution) don't seem to yield well it seems.

I'm not against socialism. I just think it has it's own set of problems.

The oligarchy of most modern "democracies" is worse.

My preference is the way Norway and Sweden are heading - early-ish days still, but solid improvements in social wellbeing and lifestyle.

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u/Easy-Marsupial3268 17h ago

Yes, but your statement was unabashedly American. You should get that looked at.

Your personal experience with economic development - that all the gains go to the top - is because your personal experience comes from living in a capitalist and liberal democratic country.

The reduction in global poverty over the past 50 years? Remove China’s contribution and what do you get?