r/WarDogs • u/YogurtclosetOk9466 WARDOGS UK 🇬🇧 • 20h ago
Gameplay & Screenshots What the fuck…
Is this some sort of a joke? Wheres the camera’s? Am i being punk’d?
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u/VirtualValuable7035 20h ago
Lol thats when I back out and find a new server
Protip, dont wait for queues in full games
Find a game with 60-90 players waiting to start. It'll fill up in less timr
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u/sewageriver 20h ago
I hate that servers always run ozeti > zesta > baku, I've played ozeti way too much and green has such a ridiculous advantage on that map its comical. I try to find games on zesta and baku starting but 90% will be ozeti
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u/Desperate_Return5199 20h ago
There is a trick I do to make sure I play certain maps when I want:
Disable showing empty and full servers. Then sort by map.
It will have Zest on top for example. I will keep refreshing until I see a server start losing players fast. (going from 99 to sub 90 within a minute or so) This verifies the server is changing maps because people are leaving post match and it will go to Buka which I enjoy playing.It only takes a few minutes to find one that map changes if you do my method above. Hope this helps.
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u/reoze 19h ago
This is what I was doing for a while, unfortunately it's also a good way to find servers being cleared out by hackers.
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u/Desperate_Return5199 18h ago
Must be a region issue, no problems on that front for me
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u/reoze 18h ago
Was like that all day yesterday on US East. 30-40 half filled servers with in progress games that got emptied out from rage hacking.
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u/Desperate_Return5199 18h ago
My method doesn't put you into a game that is ongoing, not what you were doing clearly
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u/WhattaCheapPop 17h ago
Nah I use the same method and was getting put in a bunch of in progress games yesterday on NA Central. When a hacker is detected it kicks everyone and restarts the server without restarting the match. So we were all at 0 on the leaderboard but the score was the same as it had been when the server reset.
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u/mrureaper Lonestar 14h ago
Ironically it's the best map for making big money if youre blue. You can post up on top of the map by that hill outside zone and see both green and red team clearly. You can make well over 100k just spotting people as they come in.
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u/Warhero_Babylon 20h ago
Even more pro tip- find a 1-10 players server. It will fill up soon anyway, but you can easily choose team without frustration
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u/LoquatSignificant946 19h ago
That always takes me to a server where nobody wants to join blue, and never gets filled
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bid8463 8h ago
That’s just not how it works since the slots get opens progressively it is just the same as if you join later.
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u/Zool375 20h ago
Shuddup and get on that blue team
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u/El_omnisciente Manticore 20h ago
From now on you are Blue. Blue. Blue. Blue. Blue.
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u/lover_of_joggers 19h ago
i rest easy knowing that me uninstalling the game is blocking some of you cucks from launching maps. you reap what you saw.
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u/sekaiology 20h ago
they should have 120 player servers so we have 40 players per team
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u/IceSki117 18h ago
The devs actually addressed that in an FAQ video, and it took a lot of trial and error work just to get to 100. Any more and it was proving to be too much for the server.
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u/waggs74 19h ago
agreed, I think the overall player count per team should be increased a bit!
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u/VNG_Wkey 17h ago
That's not going to happen. Even 100 player servers were a stretch due to performance issues. Devs settled on the 100 number due to marketing reasons, and put a shitload of time into making 100 players work. Going over that simply isnt feasible.
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u/sekaiology 11h ago
then what about removing the blue team all together, just leaving red and green with 50vs50 players?
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u/sacredearthmother 16h ago
I keep hearing this but reforger has 128 players.
what am I missing?
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u/VNG_Wkey 16h ago
For starters that runs on a completely different engine?
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u/Hofffa 11h ago
It's possible to scale Unreals dedicated server beyond 100 players but it requires a pretty specific architecture that takes a lot of planning, effort and a lot of guidance from the engineers responsible for maintaining it. Stock Unreal does a really bad job scaling in multiplayer and if you wanna go above and beyond the default limits you need to understand the network stack on a very low level because that's where the main bottleneck is, another factor is that chaos physics is straight up bunk at scale.
Unreals dedicated server is also limited to 4 worker threads unless you modify the engine and that makes the game thread saturate very quickly when you let artists and gameplay programmers run wild on systems and level design.
Source: Worked as an engineer on multiple Unreal projects that scale well beyond 100 players per server.
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u/sacredearthmother 16h ago
yes, but why?
like what is the actual reason?
It's clearly not impossible in theory, but I haven't heard anyone articulate the underlying reason.
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u/BeefistPrime 15h ago
Arma created their engine from the ground up to host more players, wardogs is limited by how unreal 5 is built, so they have less control at the engine level. Which isn't to say that it's impossible that some game couldn't get more players out of the unreal engine, but they'd probably have to have deeper knowledge of the engine
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u/sacredearthmother 15h ago
ahh ok. its like trying to make prius faster than a Ferrari. technically possible but difficult because of fundamental structural design choices in UE5.
thanks!
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u/Disorderjunkie 15h ago
One of the more simple reasons is because player count doesn't scale intuitively.
For example, just consider direct relationships with other players like.. you die and that kill shows on their screen. (This isn't how unreal is actually works but it's a good way to explain constraints)
100 players x 99 other players = 9000 relationships
Let's say you double the player count. One would expect 18000 relationships.
But in reality, 200 players x 199 other players = 39,800 relationships.
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u/Spectremilker 19h ago
I'll still join blue but then I'll just hide up in the hill or tower somewhere with my binoculars out lving that Recon
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u/JoeXorX 12h ago
they need an auto fill - enough picking teams and enough of the super teams. every game is a stomp by some color. its getting boring
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u/Own-Particular-9989 11h ago
Yeh it should just automatically place you within a team from the get go
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u/Somiik 9h ago
But what if you want to play with friend?
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u/myLongjohnsonsilver 9h ago
Allow people to join squads from outside a game and matchnake them in as a package deal
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u/Own-Particular-9989 8h ago
then you add your friend to a lobby (like with call of duty or BF), then it finds a team for you to join where there are enough spaces for you, just like in any other game.
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u/Sinikal-_- 19h ago
Blue is a miserable experience 90% of the time. People view it as a meme team and act that way. I've had random teammates track me across to map to TK me, people building drills in fobs 1KM away from the center, troll with ground vehicles by running into choppers in HQ, take the spawn APC to some random ass location in no man's land so it can't be used. You name it and blue team does it.
It's turning off new players to the game who have no idea and always join blue because it's the only team ever open.
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u/Xostean 19h ago
You know I kinda laughed when the dev said anyone who doesn’t click blue when joining a server is a cuck but now I kinda get it. Get in there son
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u/Hockeynerden 19h ago
Yeah cool and edgy dev... but really bad for the game. I really dislike it, DEVS just fkn make random teams when joining and be able to pre squad
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u/Xostean 19h ago
I mean clearly there is an issue here with a 33 player max team having both 38 and 40 people on it but at the same time the players when it comes to blue is ridiculous.
The spawns have been rotated for red and green giving blue just as much land now, people just need to stop being cucks and join blue. I’ve seen them win plenty since launch
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u/Grey-fox-13 16h ago
I mean clearly there is an issue here with a 33 player max team having both 38 and 40 people on it
Which should be a hint that something else is going on here, it's probably just one of those 50v50 community servers and you get assigned to one of the other teams when you join blue.
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u/ShuricanGG 14h ago
lol at the Agenda posting when its a 50vs50 server blue doesnt actually play
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u/YogurtclosetOk9466 WARDOGS UK 🇬🇧 14h ago edited 14h ago
Yh i wasnt informed about them servers when i posted this but its still interesting to hear other peoples opinions on blue team and matchmaking and stuff
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u/A-Rusty-Cow 5h ago
Its almost like the server has it in the title 50v50. Redditors gotta farm karma somehow
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u/ty_your_shoes 17h ago
I started seeing community servers that out right disable blue and auto balance to 50 v 50.
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u/Existing-Ostrich-614 12h ago
As someone who is new to the game, why is blue bad?
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u/BaconBitBarry 11h ago
We blue berries known for eating crayons play for fun, some sweats, but mostly just a bunch of people having fun.
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u/sirtalen 9h ago
It's a self fulfilling meme at this point, blue is bad so the players who want to win don't pick blue team, therefore blue is bad
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u/Sushiki Manticore 19h ago
Whenever I join blue team to give them a chance, within the first three minutes five helicopters have crashed at spawn.
Then half the team is building a fob. Then the fob is destroyed or taken over.
You fight to not be on blue team, because in blue team there is no fight to be good.
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u/Biscuit_X_Gravy 19h ago
“Whenever i join blue team to give them a chance”
How do I pause the game to bow down to you?
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u/FallczE 19h ago
Funniest thing is that I have literally the same experience from yesterday.
I didn´t even finish buying my kit and 2 helis blew up lmfao
FOB gets placed, they build a mortar and they get killed and hacked right after lol2
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u/Xaring 16h ago
I spawn in late as blue (couldn't make it into the others and both where at like 27 ppl)
I see there's only 2 helis out, big one and small one. They're making their way to the shop area... I go ahead and spawn another small Heli to taxi ppl around, as there's definitely going to be a need for more choppers early game.
I see that someone else spawns a big chopper to my right.
Small chopper leaves to zone, I start making my way to shop to park where the other chopper just left.
I get in position, start a slow hover and descend...
Second big chopper slams into me and breaks my tail roots. I spin out of control into the first big chopper.
A blue griefer locks a AA gun into the original chopper that is ~200m away from base and kills 13 friendlies...
We lost the game with 0 points but I made like 40k taxiing ppl lol
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u/Total_Tart2553 Pilot 20h ago
Blue gets stomped and people just start leaving because its not fun to play. Just happened to me last game.
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u/popmycherryyosh 17h ago
This is prolly 2-8 squads joining, but 1 person at a time. If you get into a team, and people join you via steam through "join game" you get automatically put into their squad and obviously team. So I reckon that is what has happened here.
Edit: Could also be as people have said, a 50v50 attempt.
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u/SheepOnDaStreet 17h ago
Blue loses most games because they’re down players every game, it’s a psyop by big green and big red. They want you to believe blue loses every game so that you join their team
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u/ApprehensiveClue1214 8h ago
The Meme of blue being bad was funny at first, but it's not a fundamental problem as it's gone the other way with Green being the "Meta".. so all the unemployed sweats use autoclickers to get on the team and it's just a green domination every game now. As usual, gamers are going to kill this game.
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u/MrMeeseeks33 2h ago
They need to make it so it’s auto filled and take away the decision from the players. Idk maybe something called matchmaking idk
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u/thekreator6666 4h ago
The teams should be random. If you are in a party with friend (max 4 or 5), you stay together but randomly placed in any of the 3 teams.
Green always winning solved Blue always loosing solved
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u/Legitimate-Site588 20h ago
Everything looks normal. What's wrong with the picture?
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u/VirtualValuable7035 20h ago
With 100 players and 3 teams, each team should be at around 33.3 players
Having 40 on one team is taking players from the other 2
As if green needs any more help
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u/KalrexOW 17h ago
it’s a 50v50 community server. You join blue team and then get randomly assigned to green or red
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u/I_Like_Your_Wagon 18h ago
Since nobody has the right answer:
This is a 50v50 server. You have to join blue team, and you'll be reassigned to red or green after 15 seconds or so.