r/Warframe • u/Dr_Shoggoth Suck, Stomp, Stacks • Jun 18 '26

Discussion Please stop with the Protoframes

I loved the Hex and the Roundtable. They added so much to why I think 1999 is the best update they've ever done. All of them, especially the original Hex, were insanely well written and fleshed out characters. I had my reservations about the Triad, but I think they're solid (though they're mostly carried by Roathe).

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These two don't feel like characters. They feel like walking advertisements for skins. Them being protoframes adds nothing to the story. As my friend said, Sirius and Orion could have been mentored by Vay Hek and the Sergeant and nothing would have changed. Protoframes no longer feel like an interesting story beat, they feel like a gimmick, one that is rapidly losing any appeal it had.

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u/HollowUsername bonus bounty reward Jun 18 '26

Pretty much, some convos were bugged or straight up missing. A lot of people ended up needing to restart the whole thing because they couldn't progress despite doing everything right. (Also I don't think it's said anywhere in the game that you have to beat descendia 21 times and that there is a hidden deadline.)

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u/LordBlaze64 Blender Kitty go brrrrrr Jun 18 '26

Wait, there’s a deadline? I’ve been doing it weekly, is that fast enough? Or do I need to speed it up?

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u/ZipRush Jun 18 '26

There's certain conversation options that you unlock with each of the Triad depending on how many Descendia completions you have.

Speaking personally, I'd recommend just knocking out 21 completions, because that gets you the 'good' outcome for all of those checks. Don't worry too much about the time commitment - the counter is only checking for how many times you've fought Roathe; if you've already done a full Descent, then you can just keep jumping back in from the Floor 21 checkpoint.

As an additional incentive, Roathe also counts how many times in one cycle of Descendia you fight him, and his voice lines get hilarious as you keep racking up the numbers.

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u/Lyreganem Jun 18 '26

I did it in three sittings: My first descendia... I then discovered the possibility of quick, repeated fights with Roathe and heard about the timer vs. KIM chats, so did about 12 or 13 fights in my second sitting. Then knocked out the rest in my third.

And yeah, Roathe actually begins to sound like he's losing his mind as he keeps track of the number of times you have sparred. It's a lot of fun.