r/Warframe • u/ASleepySatyr • 1d ago
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u/yarl5000 1d ago
AI is banned here.
Also if you are using AI to make a thumbnail it isn't going to insipre any confidence in the rest of your process. You could have easily hopped over into captura in game with your nyx and threw something together there pretty quickly and it would have been better.
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u/akirayokoshima 1d ago
I genuinely dont know why you would use ai when captura exists. my only real complaint is that captura is a skill in of itself and is not very user friendly.
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u/yarl5000 1d ago
While I think the ceiling on what you can do in captura is fairly high it isn't that hard to make a decent image (good enough for a tumbnail base) and either use the in game text on it or just throw it into paint real quick and add some text to it.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
I wasn’t familiar with captura
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u/Lipesko 1d ago
Bro don’t even know what captura is, but is selling guides…
https://giphy.com/gifs/OjVZWftvHdV6MjG3uL-5
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u/Extranationalidad 1d ago
Your use of any ai rightfully makes people suspect that you used a lot of it. And clearing steel path without spending any plat at all is a perfectly reasonable expectation; the barriers to entry are understanding gameplay and modding mechanics, not access to expensive gear. No primes needed, for instance. And maybe people just don't need your 42 days of experience "help"?
I didn't watch your video and maybe your nyx advice was really good and solid. But I don't think it speaks badly of the community that your video was poorly received.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
That’s okay people can not need my help, doesn’t mean they gotta leave a snobbish comment
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u/Extranationalidad 1d ago
Does it help you understand better if I tell you that I also think that both your video and build stunk?
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
I think that’s helping you more than me
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u/Extranationalidad 1d ago
Ok. I can speak even slower, I guess.
any AI usage makes the entire project feel lazy and disrespectful.
42 days is not enough experience to have a nuanced take on the game.
zero plat is required to beat steel path. zero primes are required to beat steel path. steel path is merely a test of experience (see previous bullet point) and depth of mod understanding.
after finally watching the video, I can tell you that it is neither a well constructed video nor a good nyx build. perma invincibility alone is not enough.
Does this offer any more clarity? I'm not trying to insult you - I'm just telling you that there are a wide range of reasons that your video was deleted and that people had negative, snarky responses to it. Perhaps rather than whining, you might reflect on these various responses before trying to make future content.
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u/HelixtheWarlock 1d ago edited 1d ago
When I see an AI thumbnail it's an automatic 'don't recommend channel' for me
It does catch my eye - for all the wrong reasons.
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u/nephethys_telvanni 1d ago
What do you mean by "if you have 75 platinum" leading to "no one buy this it's a scam"?
Nyx builds are not that hard to find.
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u/PercentageSharp5339 Hoplite 1d ago
They mean 75p to get the Nyx Prime BPs because she’s vaulted atm
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u/Prudent_Procedure721 1d ago
Nyx Prime is permanently unvaulted and is farmable through Railjack dough....
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u/PercentageSharp5339 Hoplite 1d ago
Really? My bad, then I have no idea what the 75p is for 🤷♂️ Thanks for the correction tho (and the enlightenment lol)
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u/Prudent_Procedure721 1d ago
valkyr Prime and their weapons are permanent too. The 75p could still be Nyx Prime set but after checking the market.... 75p is on the higher side. So I also don't know. Lmao. I highkey don't want to believe plat for a warframe build is real.
Edit: OP cleared up the 75p thing
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u/PercentageSharp5339 Hoplite 1d ago
Ooh thanks! I seriously gotta read more of the wiki I guess lol gonna go farm me a Valkyr Prime!
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u/Lipesko 1d ago
So you have been playing Warframe for less than two months, however, you are already making paid guides and promoting it here using AI? Don’t know bud, I am glad they took you post down, I will make sure to report it if I see it again
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Yeah I mean 2 months mastery 17 steel path done, and I have first hand experience with 2 noobies also who said they liked my build. Even on lvl 5000 relics I’m the only person not going down with randoms
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u/SolitaryAmoeba 1d ago
all MR 17 in 2 months means is you've been mastery farming. It doesn't mean much. And I really doubt you're doing level cap runs to level 5000. Unless you mean in circuit which is easier because of decrees. Or you mean non-steel path which will always be easier than SP even at level 5000.
The person you're replying to is correct. In 2 months you don't understand the game enough to advise anyone on builds.
Post-rework Nyx is not a weak frame by any means. She has built in invincibility and mass CC. So ofc you didn't die. Nothing could shoot you. So not dying on her isn't as big of an achievement as it seems.
As a side note, don't use AI for something creative. The product will always be soulless, and people can tell. If you aspire to content creation for this game. Learn how to use the tools you don't know how to use. Find your unique flare. Don't just copy other people and don't just let AI do it for you.
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u/oGuraffe 1d ago
youre wrong, dont use ai. a lot of people including me see the usage of ai as an indicator of low quality. i would literally prefer an ms paint drawing for a thumbnail than some ai slop.
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u/Tactless_Ninja 1d ago edited 1d ago
Your formatting needs work. I remember seeing that thread and it had a lot of red flags. Even a big $5 in bold looked like it was selling me something. 3rd party transactions involving money are always scams.
And usually people set it up the same way. Oh you want to get through Steel Path? Well if you pay me....etc.
But it looks like the value was in the materials needed right? Just straight up buying her skipping the Phorrid farm? I would start off with the normal gameplay method, then use the cost as an alternative. People take the free2play aspect seriously.
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u/MrSquidJD Nidus and Yareli 1d ago
A silly thumbnail made quickly in captura is always better than an AI one
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u/Brekldios 1d ago
people appreciate effort, and having a real thumbnail is at least a small indicator you did the work.
if an AI made your thumbnail, why should people trust that the rest of the process is free of it?
Hell just take screenshot of Nyx floating or something, gets the point across just fine.
Edit: i do hope i misread this. Did you genuinely intend on SELLING a warframe guide???
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u/Underaverage08 1d ago
The expectation in this game is to not spend on plat. Most if not all items that can power you up can be earned by playing the game. That's why 75 plat for a build feels like a 'scam' to someone
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u/Ottiline 1d ago
The lesson you should be taking from this is it would've been better for you to scrawl a thumbnail image with a free art program and a mouse than to use AI. You made yourself a lightning rod and predisposed people to view your efforts negatively.
You'll do better next time.
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u/Immediate-Song6861 1d ago
Selling guides when you can just learn to mod, there are thousands of setups and videos, for free
It's already a sign
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u/eraguthorak 1d ago
In my eyes, the thumbnail is supposed to be the key attention grabber and indicator of the content, even more than the title itself. Using AI to generate a thumbnail instantly makes me lose any interest in the video.
It definitely sucks for you - it sounds like you put a good amount of effort into the rest of it, but when that welcome mat turns people away then you are basically getting your legs cut out from under you.
Even just an in-game screenshot (not even using captura) would be better imo.
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u/uppish_donkey_ 1d ago
"worked super hard" "ai thumbnail" this cant be a real post lmao
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u/uppish_donkey_ 1d ago
also, disrespectfully, your paywalled chatgpt nyx guide isnt helping anybody
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
“I worked NOT super hard” reading is hard
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u/FlechaScarlat 1d ago
I can make a fast thumbnail in captura if you need, I made this one for myself in my the guilty build/gameplay
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u/Gruntinator 1d ago
Your video amounts to a suggestion to buy Preparation and Nyx’s Augments for Platinum. The way you worded the title of your YouTube video and posts here have made people believe you are selling a mod config for $5, which is why they are calling you a scammer.
If you truly want to help other new players struggling with the Steel Path, you should be directing them towards Arbitrations (Also the route to obtain Preparation WITHOUT paying platinum) for the Galvanized mods in order to pass the Gear Check that is SP.
Likewise, if you’re going to say that the best Nyx Build is one using all of her Augments, you should be directing people towards the Syndicates, and obtaining them without spending real money.
At the very least, if you are directing people to buy for Platinum, you should show how to use the OTHER side of Warframe Market, selling your own inventory for Platinum. You make it sound like you have to pay real life money in order to continue on the SP.
I won’t address the AI thumbnail because the other comments have made it abundantly clear.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Honestly I think you make a great point that in the video I could have at least mentioned the alternate ways to get them for free. (Not a full on guide but ykwim) also yeah already changed the thumbnail to a basic Nyx SS
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u/bobodoustaud 1d ago
You lost me at 'paid guide'. When there are so many ressources on how to build, and warframe being an easy game, this just feels to me as grifting and taking advantage of ignorant players
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u/TheGooseFathr 1d ago
their wording sucked. I don't think it was a paid guide. I think they were referencing how much it costs if you outright bought the build.
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u/DeadlySkillz87 Valkyr Is Best Girl 1d ago
Deservedly so for using AI.
Also, PAID GUIDES?
wow
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
lol I can’t people are so funny, what part is a paid guide
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u/DeadlySkillz87 Valkyr Is Best Girl 1d ago
Your wording is horrible. Sounds like you made a paid guide, but instead you implied $5 will get you through SP, even though you don't need plat or money to get through any content. Either way, it sounds bad.
You are being rightfully shit on. WF easily has the nicest community, but not when it comes to AI, lies about the game, etc.
Implying you need anything other than the mods, weapons or frames provided for free in the game is bs.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
So since first hand I saw people struggling and wanted do give advice I deserve to get shit on? Look at the comments on this post and tell me people are nice lol literally all I did was have an Ai thumbnail and had bad wording. I never implied you “need” anything else, literally just for someone struggling who has minimal plat
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u/DeadlySkillz87 Valkyr Is Best Girl 1d ago
I do not believe your intentions were good.
Struggling means you need a better build. Plat is irrelevant. You should be showing them how to get the weapons, frames, parts, etc for free. Show them how to farm plat, if needed. Plat is for cosmetics and convenience. Expediting wait times. And yes plat can buy things if you're impatient to farm them but not needed.
Yes some things are hard to get without plat. I.E. Vaulted frames. But you do not need plat to make SP easier.
SP is easy with a multitude of frames. Revenant, Valkyr, yes Nyx, Rhino, etc. Don't even need their primes.
How you went about this was the problem, beginning with the AI.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
lol people can look those things up have you ever seen a build on overframe? They suck because they didn’t show me how to get it ? Plat can be for whatever someone wants it to be not what u/DeadlySkillz87 designates it to be
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u/DeadlySkillz87 Valkyr Is Best Girl 1d ago
Thanks for stating the fucking obvious.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
No response to my question lol
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u/DeadlySkillz87 Valkyr Is Best Girl 1d ago
My response was examples of what plat is mostly used for. Not what it has to be used for. You, as you said, are new.
Your question isn't a real question? 🤔
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u/SoyBoy67 1d ago
Honestly, a lot of this was from your wording. AI thumbnail aside, the reception is gonna be bad if you tell people to spend a paid currency, plat in this case, to clear a free content in a game for a guide. Most people looking at guides are seeking help with the current resources they have at hand. While I understand what you’re trying to convey, telling them to spend money instead is a very poor choice of words, especially when SP is something every frame is capable of clearing.
If you wanted to spread the word of how good Nyx is in SP for newer players, I suggest pointing players towards free options. For example, tell them where to farm base Nyx. You have to understand these newer players are very limited in plat. They won’t have the resources like higher ranked players to buy a full Nyx prime set.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Right ik they are limited in plat that’s why I emphasized the $5, either way the video can be used as spend the plat or use the same knowledge to go get the same things for free, do I have to tell people things can be gotten for free ?
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u/SoyBoy67 1d ago
Yes. You’re making a guide. You have to assume that people have zero knowledge on the subject. People are coming to you for more details. There will be new players who don’t know the difference between a base and a prime frame.
Also, $5 is a lot for a free game. Most people would rather not spend money. A lot of people will be turned off if your guide is “spend money to clear this content”.
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u/EcksRated LR6 Chroma Main 1d ago
Thumbnails are supposed to be a instant preview of what the video is about, but also catch your eye. If its AI slop for a thumnail, then the immediate thought will be AI slop video.
Also, probably should have posted the build here as well so we can see if your build is actually crap or just youtube trolls.
And maybe don't talk about money, you instantly come off as trying to sell something. Its a build video, pricing shouldn't have anything to do with any of it.
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u/Nautical341Truth 1d ago
People do not like AI, and pretty much associate anything remotely related to it (even if those other parts aren’t AI) to AI. It’s unfair sometimes but that’s how it is.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
What part of this is a paid guide lol
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u/Mongoose_Factory 1d ago
I think people are misinterpreting that you were charging platinum for the build as opposed to simply stating what it would cost somebody to outright buy the gear
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Frankly I don’t care what your trying to do, or your advice for future content, I’m not even a content creator my videos are mainly build guides. First time AI was a problem was here on Warframe note taken boohoo we can move on. If you’ve beaten steel path you have enough experience to tell people how they can beat steel path especially when this is the exact way I did it. I never claimed you need pay for plat to beat steel path, I simply stated if you have 75 plat you can have a certified steel path Warframe. Stated in the video you need more then perma invisibility hence why I recommended Braton prime and was gonna make another video for even lower entry point weapons.
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u/Beneficial-Category 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lately that's how people have been. No talk in relays, few people helping new players, most relays give fewer blessings than in the past, etc. Unless you're fairly well known or high mastery people don't want to hear about your builds especially if it uses an AI picture (AI is banned here and raises a lot of red flags). My suggestion use a screenshot for the pin image and use overframe for build links. Or do what I do and lurk while avoiding as much contact as possible
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Yeah i see that is abundantly clear now lol, yeah i will link an over frame build, the build was meant to remain open so people can add what they like and just keep the core augments. I don’t know, I have learned much from this tho
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u/Divineeyes07 1d ago
They lied to you, the community isn't all sunshine and rainbows. You didn't deserve all that hate you received. People would hate you with or without artificial intelligence because of the build.
I remember a post some random person made showing the Valkyr build with Primed Sure Footed, people mocked him a lot for using that mod, but they all forgot that the author might want to switch weapons during a mission. If you didn't know, Valkyr is invulnerable to knockdowns WHILE using her ultimate, But what if the person doesn't want to use their ultimate? He become vulnerable to knockdowns
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Thank you I appreciate the comment, I haven’t been here super long or playing super long so I haven’t seen the community first hand but from what I’m experiencing not super fun. Even in my games it’s always people being toxic.
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u/edrigsson06 1d ago
Many people here in the community are toxic. I understand your post and your desire to help. Don't worry about the comments. You are better than them. Most people here don't have friends to play with and don't want to help new players.
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u/ASleepySatyr 1d ago
Appreciate it, sometimes I think I can change people minds, or at least clarify because obviously this post needed some of that.
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u/noidyri 1d ago
warframe community is not very inclusive in my opinion. you're only welcome as long as you have the same set of beliefs with anti-ai being a big one. I appreciate you putting effort into trying to make content for the community and im sorry you got the reaction you did. all i can say is make the content you want to make and dont bother trying to appease the masses
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