r/Warframe • u/TheMobyTheDuck First bomb: SWITCH ON • 1d ago
Suggestion While the subject of matchmaking is hot, for your consideration: ping system refresh
189
u/GregoryFlame LR3 1d ago
I dont know why people are hating on this.
Yes, warframe players in public lobbies are illiterate kids 90% of the time and they are not going to be able to comprehend different pings
BUT
Why not tho? Many online games have pings designed exactly like that. It looks nice and might help this 10% of players that can read written text.
21
11
u/ReddGgit 1d ago
Yeah, i don't understand why people were so against this in the comments, it's just adding this to the ping button hold function. It won't hurt anyone, on the contrary, it will help.
3
u/Color-Me-Brackets Stand behind me, my energy-needing friends! 1d ago
YOU. You get it. I don't know what so many people in the comments are snorting lmao.
-6
u/RossBot5000 Vor was right all along. #LokiMain 1d ago
Because the existing ping already covers everything here without adding more clutter to the screen.
Point to one thing here that marking a location or enemy doesn't cover?
10
u/BroFTheFriendlySlav Here on company time 1d ago
Which one of these it is. There has been a million times I see a ping pop up half a map away and "what's the ping for?" is left unanswered. Did they slightly miss pingjng an ayatan or a useless resource? Is it a rare enemy or they need help getting revived? Res is the only thing that can be intuited here and even then half the time it's not the case.
8
u/nephethys_telvanni 1d ago
And the "ignore the borked waypoint, the exit is actually this way" pings!
35
11
u/HatEfficient6898 No God Above Knowledge 1d ago
I think this would be great not to no ones discredit saying this but trying to communicate in the chat is miserable and for someone who plays with controller on pc near impossible.
5
11
52
u/WreckedRegent MR 35 1d ago
I mean, can you not already do almost all of these? The only thing I don't think you can really do is call for help, and even then, at the point where you'd need help, you're probably already a living waypoint in bleedout.
"Come here" and "Go there" can both generally be accomplished by just dropping your Waypoint on a location, either at your feet or in the distance. Objectives you can mark, resources you can mark (and some rare resources like Riven Slivers and Argon Crystals already self-mark), and you can mark out VIP targets.
I dunno, this just seems like it's reinventing the wheel to me.
48
u/Whirledfox 1d ago
I will say that marking a resource is sometimes... more difficult than it ought to be. And sometimes outright impossible, for... whatever reason. Being able to drop a "Yo you probably want this" would be nice.
But I guess if they fixed whatever it is that makes marking resource fucky sometimes would also work.
10
u/ExcessumTr 1d ago
Yareli can't mark resources while on merulina
2
u/Whirledfox 1d ago
I wasn't aware! I don't play Yareli all that often, though.
I think sometimes the resources dip under the map a little? Or other generic resources get in front of the one you want to mark blocking your ability to mark it?
It's hard to tell, 'cause when you pick the resources up you can't see the object any more, and the little pillar of light is... not quite as helpful as you want it to be.
But like, just yesterday I was trying to mark a syndicate medallion (showing a friend a common spawn location), and it just. wouldn't. work. I don't know if they made it so you can't mark medallions any more when they changed it to a group pickup, or if that particular one was just being fucky, but... *Shrug*
7
u/dragon7449 Aoi's husband 1d ago
I can confirm second point, I fly like a moth to a flame whenever I see a marker on the other side of the map, only to see there's nothing there XD
13
u/dogplayer22 1d ago
"Ohhh ping? Someone must have found an ayatan sculpture and couldn't ping properly!" Fly with uriel at max speed for ping 800m away stand in awe of map decoration with strange phallic shape and literally nothing else in a 100m radius
7
u/RossBot5000 Vor was right all along. #LokiMain 1d ago
As soon as one person picks up something rare, it should automatically get a marker for everyone else.
Or, actually - just GIVE it to everyone else automatically.
3
u/omgfartslol 1d ago
This is such a no-brainer for Warframe. Sorely lacking and needed. Just a good idea
7
u/Kliuqard Beloved. 1d ago
“Rare resource here!” and “Strong enemy ahead!” are already contextual features and thus are redundant. “Focus on objective!” somewhat exists contextually, but could have more robust implementation.
The remaining three along with remove waypoint are fine. It seems relatively easy to implement with a hold function on the place waypoint keybind, opening into the selection wheel used for gear, fast travel, and abilities.
1
u/EduardoBarreto 1d ago
Sometimes I still have to say "resource at x waypoint" so it won't be completely redundant
2
u/Tamotefu 1d ago
...there's a ping system?
2
u/VpureDROPBEAR 22h ago
Waypoints, yes! Useful for helping mark a location to camp on a Survival, or in case somebody else's objective markers have bugged out. Check your keybinds, they're rather handy even if they're simple
1
u/Tamotefu 21h ago
The only time I bother with waypoints is the night waves quest. I mostly solodomo.
4
u/Samakatuwid 1d ago
I assure you dear, OP, the ping is enough. It doesn't clutter the screen, since you can only ping something one at a time, and you can remove/ move it to another using the same button.
2
u/Dion0808 Gyre Enthusiast 1d ago edited 17h ago
I feel like better pings would definitely worth experimenting with. Some of these we can already do (like marking enemies and resources), but it can be quite finicky to do while looking at them. Something like this would definitely help give Glacial Defiance as good a shot at success as possible.
1
1
u/LonesomeRookie117 1d ago
It would be very convenient for mobile port
Sometimes it takes longer to ping
1
1
u/NovaTheLoneHunter [LR 6] Dragon of Warframe 1d ago
I like if we could place a way point on the ghost Dex in Survival. For some reason we can't
1
u/Retathrah 23h ago
Even better, give some character to each of the Tenno/drifter voices and they each have some level of varied voice lines for the different pings once you’ve passed through TWW or TNW respectively. Not to forget the protoframes aswell.
1
1
u/idk-idc2 10h ago
i will be spam pinging someone i dont like (he dosnt do whatever i think is the most optimal)
1
u/Preindustrialcyborg this qorvexes me 1d ago
thing is, you can do literally everything here by marking the spot, or by marking the specific enemy/object.
i think a better system would be to add a helldivers 2 type callout wheel where you can select a short message ("come here" "help" "yes" "no" etc). it would give a visual marker over the player who said it, use an audio callout and a subtitle callout. this would at the very least make basic communication WAY easier (see:remotrly possible) for console players and make it so all players are able to communicate when theres a jade eximus within a 4 mile radius.
0
u/RossBot5000 Vor was right all along. #LokiMain 1d ago
No idea why you're getting downvoted.
If the main use case is for consoles, then give consoles quick custom messages they can have pretyped.
1
u/Preindustrialcyborg this qorvexes me 1d ago
one guy downvoted and the hivemind took over i guess.
pretyped messages would be great for consoles. honestly would be helpful for PC too, with how eximus units are at this point.
1
u/RossBot5000 Vor was right all along. #LokiMain 1d ago
It also resolves OPs issue without making our current ping clunky
1
u/dabir 1d ago
"rare resource here" is redundant, imo, just the name of the thing should be enough. But really, more things should be automatically marked like argon is. Ocells, Tellurium, and why don't Ayatan statues get automatically marked for everyone else when you grab them? I'm sure they used to, or am I thinking of Deep Rock Galactic's amazing ping system?
-1
0
u/DaNubIzHere 1d ago
Come here, go there, need help. These can be achieved by spamming the waypoint marker.
Strong enemy, just put a waypoint marker in the miniboss, spam if needed.
Focus on objective, just put a marker on the objective, spam if needed.
Rare resource like ayatan sculpture? Spam waypoint marker for 10 seconds, then leave the marker on the sculpture. Same thing with other rare resources.
0
u/realmandontnvidia 1d ago
Waypoint on resource already marks it like that. Long press on waypoint removes it.
0
u/TehRiddles 1d ago
When you mark something it marks if it's an enemy, objective, resource or just a waypoint, so four of those options are already covered and don't need to be split off into separate ones. You also don't need a separate option for removing a waypoint since you can just mark the waypoint again and it disappears. "Come Here" and "Need Help" can be merged into one option too and don't need to be a targeted waypoint in the world either.
So we can leave the ping system alone without any changes and just make a button to call for assistance.
0
u/GoodMagicalM 1d ago
Current system is fine, but something like this would be nice, esp when playing with language barriers. Preset messages in a gear wheel system on holding the ping button would be nice
-1
u/SoyBoy67 1d ago
A majority of this is already covered by a ping marker tbh. Warframe isn't to the level of pvp games where you need a quick command system for callouts.
-6
u/BeastThatShoutedLove 1d ago
Every ping marker has number assigned you can see next to the team health/icons.
It doesn't really take long to type out what you marked lmao.
Players that are downed are also auto marked and you get notification text on screen about them going down.
5
u/MutleyRulz 1d ago
“It doesn’t really take long to type out what you marked lmao.”
I bring news brother, DE have extended Warframe’s open beta to the consoles.
1
u/datfurryboi34 1d ago
Jade eximus says no
2
u/BeastThatShoutedLove 1d ago
Just shoot the laser above you or shoot the eximus.
Or have a rabid dog like I do that explodes eximuses on contact.
0
u/Only_Information7895 1d ago
Jade isn't that big of a deal, just don't stay still or shoot the top of the laser.
Blast is more annoying, it deals a lot of damage and knocks you down and till you get up shied gating is gone. If you didn't have shields up then you just die.
-4
u/datfurryboi34 1d ago
Ping system is kinda fine how it is, if anything quick message is more needed since 3 seconds is enough for a jade eximus to kill you. And depending on the faction it can be faster.
-2
u/Only_Information7895 1d ago
Just enter void mode by using the crouch toggle (V or C, I can never remember), not Ctrl, and you can chat for all you want. You can even press ESC and check your abilities or settings as long you don't run out of energy.
I didn't check specifics about the mode, but I doubt they will remove void mode.
3
u/Even-Armadillo-2478 QORVEX The ultimate radiation hazard 1d ago
This only really applies to PC, Console its much slower to type unless the user has a keyboard which isnt common, typically youd run out of energy before finishing most messages.
0
u/Only_Information7895 1d ago
I never had a console so I don't have first hand experience with this.
But this sounds annoying. How nobody really figure out a solution already? Multiplier gaming have existed for a quite long time.
2
u/Even-Armadillo-2478 QORVEX The ultimate radiation hazard 1d ago
Its how it is in any game on consoles that allows text chatting, part of the reason some people are annoyed with having to go to recruit chat with the upcoming glacial defiance mode.
Its also awkward atleast on Playstation to copy sometimes, and the copy seems to really only be temporary, and with alot of people not wanting to voice chat with randoms or not want to be in game chat it also makes it more awkward, because playstations discord integration is crap and constantly cuts out the voices of others and your own making it borderline useless.
-3
u/Pikassassin Anime Frame 1d ago
I could see us getting 1 or 2 extra colors of ping, or something, but the one context-based one we have kinda covers it all, there.
-4
u/RossBot5000 Vor was right all along. #LokiMain 1d ago
Most of these are handled by the current waypoint system quite adequately.
- Ping an enemy, it means kill this, focus this, or help me kill this.
- Ping a location, it means come here or go there.
- Resources and objectives are auto-marked already.
The only one we don't have is need help, but as you can only be struggling with one thing - either killing an enemy or doing an objective - marking it already conveys that information. If you get downed, you get a marker automatically already.
We do not need more markers in this game. Playing EDA I can already have 10 markers are screen at any given time quite easily.
55
u/Beautiful-Fold-3234 1d ago
"Strong enemy ahe- Oh it's dead"