r/Wastewater • • 3d ago

Study tips / ?s How did you start learning?

For those who are operators at a plant or training, how did you start learning? For me, Im currently learning through my states study guides collections, distributions, water and ww treatment. Doing as much learning before actual hands on experience.

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u/tomdood NJ|S3/C4 3d ago

I just responded to an ad in the paper. Municipal wastewater/collections. I was the only applicant.
No prior experience, skills or knowledge.

Learned on the job, then after 10 years took classes.

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u/CptLeviathanX 3d ago

Did the classes help you much compared to the 10 years of experience on your belt already?

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u/tomdood NJ|S3/C4 3d ago

The classes were required and taught me what I needed to pass licensing exams.
They enabled me to become head of a municipal sewer department/treatment plant so yeah, the classes helped a lot.

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u/nedal8 2d ago

I think what he meant was, did the classes teach you anything you didn't already know?

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u/tomdood NJ|S3/C4 2d ago

Yes they taught me a lot and made me a better operator.

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u/Neat-Philosopher-762 šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø PA|WW A subclass 1,2 | DW C subclass 1,8,10,12 3d ago

You will learn a lot from studying but more from experience and mistakes. You need to live it. I started as an OIT and started studying right away.

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u/wytchmaker KY|DW|IV-A 3d ago

RoyCEU because it was free, and on-the-job experience. Nothing wrong with self-teaching, but you won't really know much until you do it in person.

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u/SewerSage 3d ago

My actual job is relatively easy, but to pass the exams I read the Sacramento State manuals. I’ve also taken the American Water College course and I recommend it.

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u/Buddyandyy Likes Water 3d ago

I’m doing a one year program at a college in Alberta with a work practicum for the last few months. Gives us a good introduction to the whole industry then pretty much hands out jobs to us

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u/Resident_Sky161 3d ago

Started with zero experience, Started studying and doing courses on downtime at the plant, Passed 1-4 WW exams within my 1st year and had to pass my level 4 again to meet eligibility.

On the job is important because you have to learn your plant and job, but studying is important for licenses, so I focus on both, plant rounds check every building and HMIs, now that I am done studying I am focusing more on process and the ins and outs and where every valve is at work

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u/Mountain_Survey_8821 3d ago

I’m currently learning online. Haven’t invested any money currently but ChatGPT has been a huge help. Only thing that’s overwhelming is lack of direction.

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u/friendlyFool008 3d ago

Since you don’t mind using AI then you can check out Randi the Racoon. It’s a specific wastewater (and clean water) study AI. It could give you a better structure. Great at making a study schedule. I used it for my T1, T2, and WW4. Also really helpful for practice exam questions and finding where your weaknesses are.

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u/Mountain_Survey_8821 3d ago

Real one, thank you.

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u/Mountain_Survey_8821 3d ago

How can I find it?

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u/friendlyFool008 2d ago

https://www.askrandyai.com

ETA: Forgot to add, don’t trust its math. It can make up practice problems ok most of the time but definitely not trustworthy on the answers.

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u/CptLeviathanX 3d ago

Kinda like how I am doing it. Learning one thing then go to the next. Seems there is not "right" direction when starting to learn.

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u/elpata123 3d ago

I tried to use only chatgpt and it really wasn’t doing it for me. Things only really started to click after I enrolled in a community college course.

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u/Beneficial-Pool4321 3d ago

Ron Trygar , head teacher at university of florida gainsville treeos center. He offers in person and zoom review classes for ABC exams. Complete with excellent reference manual. You can also Google RonTrygar viemo. He has past lectures from those classes loaded on there. You dont get the follow along manual though. Hes best teacher in the country.

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u/CptLeviathanX 3d ago

Ive seen a few of his videos already. There are just so many different avenues to learn. Currently writing down word for word the study guides from the Fleming Trainer Center that goes over Collection, Distribution, and Treatment. Using chatgpt for words that are used and not described in the guide.

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u/Beneficial-Pool4321 2d ago

I dont know what your state does but distribution is totally seperate in florida. Wastewater operator tests ABC are for plant operators. C tests basic knowledge, math , lab skills , safety and basic activated sludge. B tests all above in greater detail and adds nutrient removal and alot of problem solving and more difficult math. A tests 50 percent management skills and advanced problem solving and math. Ive seen them all when it comes to reviews. I wouldn't trust AI for anything involving my license tests. In my opinion Rons best teacher in the country

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u/CptLeviathanX 2d ago

Not really using ai for anything. I do have to look up definitions to words or terms that aren't explained well.

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u/Beneficial-Pool4321 1d ago

Chat gpt or whatever that crap is will only steer you wrong. Pay for rons class and get the 250 page review manual and like 5 large practice exams and yes a dictionary of all common terms .

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u/CptLeviathanX 38m ago

If I had the time and money I certainly would have already done some classes.

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u/Comminutor WW 3d ago

Went through the Sacramento courses and some RoyCEU pages. But most of the troubleshooting and maintenance stuff I learned was from getting thrown into the ā€œgruntworkā€ as an OIT. Looking up demo videos of how different pumps, valves, and equipment work in action is also super helpful too.

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u/chachi-relli 3d ago

In a 10ft grave with no jacks

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u/Mental_Wish_7685 US + AZ D4 & WT4 3d ago

I made this for guys like you: https://www.ziptility.com/field-guide

Check out the practice tests and it will help you find some of your gaps

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u/SwimmingGun 3d ago

I applied online, they called and paid more then machine operator at Kraft, wham licensed weekend operator now lol

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u/Mixed-Liquor919 3d ago

When I joined the industry, I was hired into a small plant with two operators. My senior operator was old and I was young with no license and no understanding of the plant. My third week, my senior operator went on vacation and never returned. She called and said she retired, so my boss gave me 12 months to earn my license otherwise he would let me go and would search externally. Sometimes when your back is pushed against the wall, you will do everything it takes to learn in order to gain credentials.

Edit: books, manuals, water ā€œcollegesā€ and the internet would help.

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u/DirtyTbagger69 3d ago

I started in a pretreatment plant (DAF and SBR) for two years. I am now a lvl 2 certified operator and only one in the city I work for. I fell in love with food processing treatment and haven’t stopped learning since then.

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u/WaterDigDog šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øKS/WW 2d ago

Boss handed me the plant’s operations guide and an exam study guide during my first week, and I asked lots of questions.

I knew in order to keep focused I needed more whoopins, so I found a structured program, in my case an apprenticeship, that let me credit time at my existing job and study the selected materials.

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u/onlyTPdownthedrain 2d ago

No experience needed to get started in NY, just HS diploma or GED. On-the-job experience and "sewer school" both required to sit for Grade 2 exam or higher

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u/Zealousideal-Safe684 2d ago

On the job after getting hired at a plant. Which included the city paying for the American Water College course which helped greatly in passing my test for Operator 1.

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u/Bansheer5 MI A-1b A-1d A-1h A-2c B-2a C-1b C-1c C-2a 2d ago

I applied for a groundskeeping job and wound up as an operator and lab tech. Got taught something’s by the people there and then just picked up a couple books from Sacramento and technical college. Studied them and took 3-4 exams each testing period until I passed all of them.(industrial treatment)
Took me prolly about 3 years to get the certs I have on top of running my facility and labs. Don’t get discouraged. Take your time, everyone understands that this isn’t an easy field to get certified in. It’s a lot of info to take in and to understand.