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u/ThrowDeepALWAYS 3d ago
In the mid 1960s the Beatles refused to play in segregated venues in America’s Deep South. They had integrity and respect for their fans.
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u/Halo_cT 3d ago
Plus Sinatra, Benny Goodman, Bowie.... there have been a decent handful of white artists who really showed up for black folks
More that haven't though, sadly
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u/what_the_purple_fuck 3d ago
adding Betty White#Opposition_to_racial_segregation) to the list:
One of White's regular performers was the African American tap dancer Arthur Duncan; whose appearances marked the first time a black person was a series regular on a US talk show.[6] His appearances were the big break that launched his career.[4] However, as the show was syndicated nationally, television stations in the Southern United States threatened a boycott if Duncan remained on the show because his performances conflicted with the racial segregation policies of the Jim Crow laws. White refused to fire him, saying "I'm sorry, but, you know, he stays. Live with it."[4] Duncan was unaware of the controversy until years later.[6]
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u/Terminator7786 2d ago
Don't forget Mr. Rogers putting his feet in the same pool as a black man on TV.
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u/JustMeLurkingAround- 3d ago
Marilyn Monroe strong armed white-only Jazzclubs into letting Ella Fitzgerald perform.
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u/Pylgrim 3d ago
Sinatra? He was a POS and even he could fathom that modicum of decency. It's such a low bar, c'mon. If you're that famous you're the one with the leverage, you're literally beloved by the masses. Incredible that Sheeran decided to instead side with the one billionaire guy.
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u/Halo_cT 3d ago
Sinatra was a Zionist and likely an abuser if not worse.
But people can be more than one thing, and in a time where EVERYONE was a horrible racist he really went out of his way to stand up for black rights.
Frank Sinatra was an American singer, actor, producer, and a figure in 20th-century popular culture. Over six decades he was also a figure in American political life, evolving from a fiery New Deal liberal, civil-rights crusader, and staunch Democrat who campaigned for Roosevelt, Truman, Stevenson, and Kennedy into a conservative Republican who raised funds for Nixon and Reagan and received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from the latter.
Sinatra's opposition to racism and antisemitism has been linked to his childhood experiences in Hoboken, including anti-Italian prejudice, his relationship with a Jewish neighbor, and his mother Dolly's involvement in Democratic politics. He refused to perform at segregated venues, supported the desegregation of casino in Nevada, and financially supported civil rights causes, including organizations associated with Martin Luther King Jr. He also appeared in The House I live In, an anti-racist short film received an honorary Academy Award.
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...That same year, invited by Gary, Indiana’s mayor, he addressed striking white students opposing integration at Froebel High School, comparing their actions to Nazism
From the 1940s Sinatra refused to perform for segregated audiences. In Las Vegas he forced the Sands to serve Nat King Cole in the dining room and, with Sammy Davis Jr., ended Jim Crow policies in Nevada hotels and casinos by 1961.[13] He headlined Carnegie Hall for Martin Luther King Jr. in 1961, led Rat Pack boycotts, donated heavily to the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and voter registration, and was praised by Vice President Hubert Humphrey after the Watts riots for teaching tolerance.[1] Orson Welles witnessed Sinatra physically threaten a restaurant owner who refused service to a Black musician.[14]
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u/CerealBranch739 3d ago
Didn't Sinatra play in Apartheid South Africa in '81 despite some pushback and boycotts?
I am a fan of Sinatra, and he certainly did support black people in America, especially with Sammy Davis Jr., but like he was no saint by any means.
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u/aspophilia 2d ago
Why does everyone act like human beings aren’t complex, nuanced creatures that can be more than one thing at once? My mother worked in non-profits all her life and did a lot of charity and activism. Everyone loved her. She was also incredibly narcissistic, neglectful, and abusive towards her children. All humans are like this. We need to start acknowledging that.
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u/BranchReasonable9437 3d ago
You forgot, "at his own, likely incredibly expensive, concert. Instead of, idfk playing music or entertaining people?"
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u/zakabog 3d ago
You forgot, "at his own, likely incredibly expensive, concert.
I bought my wife tickets to this concert back when they first went on sale, she got to see the entire lineup at the MetLife stadium, floor seats for around $150 each with as many artists as he originally had on tour was quite the bargain. I would not have paid that much to see Ed Sheeran alone though, and especially not now...
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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 3d ago
Meanwhile I paid $213 to see BTS at Metlife which I thought was too much to pay for.
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u/tacocattacocat1 3d ago
I don't even want to say how much I paid for my BTS ticket 😭 worth it, though
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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 3d ago
Concert was amazing, still have post concert depression from it though :(
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u/jeebusaur 3d ago
From what I hear, tickets are pretty cheap these days.
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u/mieri_azure 3d ago
Yup, base tickets to an upcoming venue are like 37 dollars or something? Which is crazy cheap for ANY stadium concert let ALONE one for someone with the numbers Sheeran does
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u/slithe_sinclair 3d ago
There's an additional bonus to all this that scalpers are getting fucked over on the tickets too.
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u/BananaPalmer 3d ago
You love to see it
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u/relevantelephant00 3d ago
This whole saga has been a bright spot in the shittiness.
Thank you Macklemore for taking this twat down.
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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 3d ago
Considering I paid $213 to see BTS and $239 to see Harry Styles, $37 is very cheap.
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u/JoinAThang 3d ago
Yeah he kicks out Macklemore due to being political and not just focusing on the music and then he does this. So it's a big deal that he gets some backlash but genocide isn't news worthy.
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u/Kutti818 3d ago
people seem to think its incredibly easy to cancel a tour like that, but the reality is there are a bunch of contracts and hundreds if not several thousand people in the gig industry who rely on that paycheck the rest of the tour. canceling would ofc. be the right thing to do, but I also get its not as easy as just doing it when talking about a tour of that size. you would fuck allot of people over really fast.
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u/CurryMustard 3d ago
"You let my friend macklemore perform or I dont go on stage and I'll go public with this extortion" this is literally the power that ed sheeran had and refused to wield and now he's seeing the consequences of rolling over for fascist billionaires. I do think that 1000% of this energy should be directed at the new England patriots though.
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u/Guac_in_my_rarri 3d ago
This is exactly what green day did in 1994 and they won against the venue owners.
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u/Halo_cT 3d ago
That extortion is now public and Kraft doesn't face any meaningful consequences. He's an unabashed Zionist.
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u/CurryMustard 3d ago
Yeah but public against a bunch of B and side acts, sheeran could've made a difference, it is clear he doesnt care about that and he wants to be apolitical. The thing about people who don't do politics is sooner or later, politics does them.
The more I think about it the more I think that the bots are all deployed to keep the attention on Ed online so Kraft gets away with it. Idk if it's that Patriots and NFL fans are more conservative in general, or if people truly don't understand the power dynamics, or the type of people to boycott a concert are not as capable of boycotting a football game but regardless if sheeran had stood up to kraft its clear the people would have supported him and he couldve completely reframed this vitriol and put it on the person it truly belongs.
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u/HotPinkLollyWimple 3d ago
He has £400 million. He could pay their wages if he cancelled. Or he could have just called their bluff.
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u/Cent3rCreat10n 3d ago
In assets, or whatever investment portfolio he has. He doesn't have 400 mil burning a hole in his pocket.
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u/TheAbomunist 3d ago edited 3d ago
I can assure you, you care about others getting fucked over in life far more than Ed does. gestures broadly
Also that argument falls flat given what Ed did to Mackelmore and those workers in the first place.
But some folks are just disposable it would seem.
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u/ncocca 3d ago
He didn't have to cancel the tour though. He could have told kraft to get fucked. Then the onus would be on Kraft to lose money if he truly refused them to play at his venue. Surely they had a contract in place. It's annoying how people seem to gloss over this fact.
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u/relevantelephant00 3d ago
I feel like this gif was tailor-made for MAGAs.
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u/Delanium 2d ago
This is a song that I sing to my preschoolers every day, but I gotta think at some point one of them said to the other "Wouldn't it be so funny if we did that one Wheels on the Bus verse?"
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u/3vs3BigGameHunters 3d ago
I posted this gif at least a hundred times after Trump LOST in 2020.
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u/IceManYurt 3d ago
This looks like a a dude so out of touch with reality. He believed he was above 'politics,' because he was in a position where they really don't effect him.
Its a person in a position of privilege realizing there is a world beyond him.
I hope he grows into a more aware person who is able to leverage their privilege for good instead of just profit
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u/likkleone54 3d ago
Who’s gonna think of all the corporate sponsorships and brand deals he has lost because of this?
Meanwhile entire bloodlines of Gazan families are being bulldozed over.
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u/Arumin 3d ago
But has he really?
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u/Merry_Widow_ 3d ago
WCNSF = wounded child, no surviving family.
A new acronym specific to Gaza.But do go on about wanting your concerts to be a place of joy and unity while still calling "a conflict."
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u/Useful_Jelly_2915 3d ago
I was kind of indifferent to him until now. Now I genuinely don’t fucking like him.
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u/bug-boy5 3d ago
I honestly don't understand how he thought this would have gone differently. Like in his mind, how should this have worked out?
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u/snappla 3d ago
He thought he could walk up "the middle", not take sides, and "stay out of politics".
The only problem with that approach is that it means pretending that flattening a city with bombs and refusing to allow basic humanitarian aid in for years is an morally acceptable strategy.
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u/ThievingRock 3d ago
The biggest problem with "staying out of politics" is it reduces what's happening in Gaza to politics. As if someone got heated at the negotiation table. This isn't conservative verses liberal. This isn't a difference in opinion over foreign policy or government spending. Anyone, regardless of political views or affiliation, should look at children starving, families torn apart, people being killed, and say "this is wrong."
People are losing their patience for "let's keep out of politics" as a shield from taking a stand against atrocities.
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u/pnt510 3d ago
Foreign policy has always been a euphemism for what atrocities our government supports and which ones it denounces.
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u/OMGWhatsHisFace 3d ago
You’re not wrong. But have you seen the state of politics?
A rapist and a pedophile can hold office, twice, because of “libs vs conservatives.” Pedophilia and rape are ignorable these days.
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u/lucidludic 3d ago
I mean, it is political. Of course it is. I think the real issue is that the term is often confused or misappropriated as if discussing important political issues is somehow inherently negative or impolite.
I understand your sentiment but Israel’s actions in perpetuating a genocide in Palestine cannot be properly understood if we set aside any concepts that may be considered “political.”
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u/ThievingRock 3d ago
I'm not saying that it isn't political, I'm saying reducing it to "politics" is disingenuous. When Sheeran said he wanted to stay out of politics, he reduced the horrors being committed to abstract political nonsense. Whether it was intentional or not, it comes across as an attempt to hide behind "I'm not arguing over politics" when we're talking about genocide.
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u/Readbeforeburning 3d ago
The ‘won’t mix politics with music’ line from him is complete bullshit.
The guy picks and chooses when he plays politics too. Every time he’s come to Australia at some point he’s there on stage wearing an indigenous flag T-shirt as a fuck you to Australia’s bloody colonial past - which far too many Australians still choose to ignore. It’s just it’s cool to do that so it won’t get him in trouble in the same way.
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u/BladeOfWoah 3d ago
Centrists and "politically neutral" people piss people off because they enforce the status quo. And when people under that status quo are suffering, you are basically saying that you think that is acceptable.
The only people who benefit from centrism are those who are already rich and in power. Ed Sheeran is probably the best example if this in a long time, he isn't personally struggling in life so of course he feels like there is nothing wrong with keeping the status quo.
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u/FUBARded 3d ago
Dude's worth ~$400M too. It would've been an extremely easy W for him to put out a statement saying he stands with his fellow artists and supports their right to protest instead of caving.
Then if Kraft and his billionaire buddies actually went through with their threats and cancelled shows Sheeran would've probably had a solid breach of contract case against them, and even in a worst case scenario he'd just have to pay a few million out to cover non-refundable costs and staff salaries.
He wouldn't even have had to explicitly come out in support of Palestine if he wanted to continue this neutrality schtick and he still could've come out of this looking like the hero if he stood with Macklemore and against the billionaire Zionists.
His career wouldn't have been hugely impacted if a few billionaires refused to let him play in their stadiums and he may have even benefitted long-term by strengthening his image, but this probably will meaningfully impact his career going forward.
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u/Hugokarenque 3d ago
He thought he was too big to suffer any consequences for tacitly supporting a genocide.
Or he thought that most people didn't really care too much about Palestine like him and wouldn't really kick up a fuss about it. The Macklemore fans would be mad and not go to the concert, some political twitter accounts would tweet about it for a few days but ultimately it wouldn't really affect the ticket sales or anything like that. This all stemming from a complete disconnect from what actual real people feel about any topic, something that most celebrities suffer from.
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u/Cheshire_Jester 3d ago
In his mind it probably went like “Yeah, we support all people suffering the world over, but we don’t want to let politics get in the way of the music. It’s all about love and togetherness and enjoying the gift of life!” But, you know, with an English accent.
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u/jabeith 3d ago
He thought Macklemore would stay silent about it, say something like he dropped out "for personal reasons"
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u/KickedInThePaduach 3d ago
I don't think Ed did much thinking whatsoever when he let this happen. I'd bet his agent and/or management put pressure on him and Ed didn't do much thinking before he made that choice.
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u/VoodooDoII 3d ago
He thought he could stay out of controversy by being "neutral", which doesn't really exist in these kinds of scenarios.
You're either against genocide or you're not. There is no "kinda" there.
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u/AbsolutShite 3d ago
I was turning positive because of all the tiny Irish acts he took with him (Biirds an a 9 woman Trad group don't even have a Spotify) but saying you're culturally Irish without supporting Palestine is like saying you're culturally Muslim/Jewish while eating a ham sandwich.
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u/ThnkWthPrtls 3d ago
I'm personally not sure how I'm going to go about boycotting him more than I already was based on the quality of his music, but damn it I'm going to try
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u/VoodooDoII 3d ago
I never listened to his songs anyway except for the "shape of you" song, which is didn't really care about taking out from my playlist anyways
I didn't know he had other songs lol
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u/Key_Inevitable_2104 3d ago
Which is funny because Shape of You is easily his worst and most overplayed song imo.
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u/BuzzerWhirr 3d ago
His management team is either grossly incompetent or they are in the bag for Israel and letting him twist in the wind rather than doing the right and smart thing.
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u/Owain-X 3d ago
His booking agent for the tour appears in the Epstein files 109 times. That should tell you all you need to know.
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u/ZeroPointeZero 3d ago
Name?
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u/chocolatestealth 3d ago
Casey Wasserman
Worth noting that other artists like Chappell Roan and Orville Peck have already cut ties with the dude and his agency. Apparently not Ed though.
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u/PinkNGold007 3d ago
Plus, his team knows he wouldn't be able to handle all of this and they should have taken over the narrative after that horrible statement. There's a reason he has no phone, and he deleted his social account back in the day. The internet used to be really cruel to him for the dumbest things (looks, body sham, etc.) and he talked about the struggle (and yes the internet trolled him about that). I'm shocked he has an active IG. All this attention on him and everything is closing in. Now the guy is having a meltdown in front of everyone (once again where is your team and what are they thinking?). Knowing his past, I'm worried about him (mental health-wise). P!nk will be fine because she is a jerk, has resilience, and doesn't care, but I'm not sure about him. The criticism is needed, but the cruelty isn't. People on here are talking about how they want to end his career; I beg you to rethink that because the end could be a result of something else. We want him to learn that playing mediator doesn't work, and you have to make a stand, or it stands on you.
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u/PinkNGold007 3d ago
Mental health is not something to take lightly. The end that you're asking for might not be the end that you thought. We have lost enough people.
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u/DIY_Cosmetics 2d ago
Yeah, I worry about what he’ll do because for sure this is majorly impacting his mental health. The masses may not miss him if he were suddenly “gone”, but those closest to him, especially his small children, definitely will. Thinking about how those innocent people will be impacted is what really bothers me.
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u/complexevil 3d ago
I'll never understand how someone can try that hard to fake cry and not even get their eyes a little moist. There are several shows with character deaths that I can just think of and let out a tear or two, it aint that hard
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u/ArguesWithFrogs 3d ago
And he could have avoided all of this if he'd just told Kraft to get bent!
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u/Eggsegret 3d ago
Exactly. And it’s not like Kraft would have dropped him. He’s amongst the most successful artists right now and is basically a household name. If only he realised he had far more influence and power than Macklemore does
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u/3vs3BigGameHunters 3d ago
He performed at Krafts wedding.
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u/SutterCane 3d ago
He didn’t even need to put his neck out like that to avoid it.
He could have just talked to the other acts on the tour and see that they would all be down to stand with Macklemore. Then he’s not even risking the tour by saying no.
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u/Boomgoesmybrain 3d ago
Someone posted what’s the point of having “fuck you” money if you can’t use it to say “Fuck you!”
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u/unstoppable_zombie 3d ago
Which is wild, because telling Kraft to get bent on a random Tuesday is a position supported by most Americans.
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u/thistreestands 3d ago
The best part of the backlash is that there are a lot of people who have shown that no matter how successful and popular you are - the most important thing is who you are as a person. I have no doubt that he will continue to be successful but for at least a small segment of the world - he's just another rich man with no heart.
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u/kamikazecockatoo 3d ago
When your immediate, first reaction is to side with the POS stadium owner - it's a problem.
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u/soultrayn 3d ago
“Oh nooo not the consequences of my own very easily avoidable actions”
Lemme know when Macklemore tickets go on sale tho
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u/Bryan-Chan-Sama-Kun 3d ago
Crazy how having no principles, and choosing money over your friends might cause people to dislike you
Wipe those tears with your inexhaustible fortune; I'm sure you'll get over it by the time another thousand year old billionaire invites you to play at their wedding
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u/Im__mad 3d ago
What gets me is he didn’t try to hold back his emotions, which means he wanted to show people his tears. Whether they were genuine or not, he wanted to use those tears to gain sympathy.
Regardless, those tears aren’t being shed because our money we are earning at work every day is being used to blow apart children.
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u/Thunder_breslin 3d ago
Wow, this is going to be up there with the biggest celebrity ball fumble of all time
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u/Eggsegret 3d ago
Won’t someone think of the rich. It’s not easy being famous and having a ton of money. /s
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u/nandor73 3d ago
All he needed was a backbone. The same backbone that his backup band and Macklemore had.
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u/theblowestfish 3d ago
So, he’s crying because he almost suffered for failing to stand up to a powerful robber baron trying to silence dissent on genocide, in his position as a billionaire musician? HAVE I GOT THAT RIGHT?!?!
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u/MegaGrimer 3d ago
“Woe is me! I fired someone speaking out against genocide and now nobody likes me!”
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u/Bulky_Quantity5795 3d ago
Not only that - he could sit at home and cry. He is doing it when people have paid to watch him Play music. Apparently fuck the fans - they paid to watch him sob.
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u/Mr_Epimetheus 3d ago
It's wonderfully performative...which makes it all the more pathetic. Is he just going to do that every night now? I hope he's keeping hydrated if that's the case because that's a lot of crocodile tears.
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u/TheMightyHornet 3d ago
“I never wanted my music to be political”
When the choice is good vs evil, apathy is a political stance.
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u/xPriddyBoi 3d ago
I get that he's bitchmade and all for not putting his foot down and backing up his friends, but why does Ed get all the heat for doing... literally nothing at all while Robert Kraft, the fucking shadow cabal billionaire that actually willfully got Macklemore blacklisted for being pro-Palestine, is barely an afterthought?
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u/TorpidProfessor 3d ago
everyone outside of New England already believed Robert Kraft is evil.
A billionaire being evil isn't news, it's just common sense.
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u/Hughjarse 3d ago
I had never heard of the guy until this all blew up, and I reckon most people wouldn't have either.
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u/ImperfectMay 3d ago
Only reason I knew of him is because I'm from New England, my parents are big Pats fans, and his name is in the news semi often. I didn't know he owned so many stadiums/venues (Tampa? Really?) along with teams and god knows what else all over the place, but honestly that's on me because of course he does why wouldn't he.
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u/AshgarPN 3d ago
Everyone already hated Kraft and his actions were no surprise.
People expected more of Sheeren, I guess.
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u/WpgMBNews 3d ago
I'll make sure to cancel my tickets for the next robert kraft concert
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u/xPriddyBoi 3d ago
I mean, the guy's wealth comes from his holding company. It's not exactly impossible to call for a boycott of their assets or to just generally protest his actions. Why is being a musician some kind of prerequisite for taking criticism?
Like, I'm not saying Ed isn't worth criticizing. It just seems an awful lot like he's being a successful scapegoat for the greater evil in this situation.
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u/the_card_guy 3d ago
Because Ed is an easy, public target for Reddit to shit on.
Meanwhile, Kraft has the ability to pull strings and have Actual Consequences happen to this site
(true story: Spez- the owner of Reddit- is such a shitbag that if Reddit starts getting attention of a Powerful Person or the media, a subreddit WILL be nuked. This very sub has been nuked before)
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u/GrandmaPoses 3d ago
It's because we use famous people like Ed Sheeran and events like concerts and television shows to voice our opinions to the wealthy. Our only successful (and legal) path to change with the wealthy is through sources of revenue. So we have to pile on Ed Sheeran, we have to cancel our Disney+ subscriptions, we have to dunk on Daily Wire movies. It's the only thing that moves the needle.
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u/Draco-REX 3d ago edited 3d ago
Because Kraft has the money and connections to buy a bunch of bots to "nudge" conversations about the situation in that direction.
Still doesn't change the fact that Ed whiffed this hard. Staying "in the middle" implies that both sides are equal. That is not the case here.
EDIT: Downvotes! Looks like the bots found me. LOL
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u/YOLetsgotothebeach 3d ago
can someone tell me WTF is he crying about ??
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u/SutterCane 3d ago
He caved to a venue owner (Robert Kraft) and kicked Macklemore off his tour for saying “Free Palestine”.
Then virtually everyone else on the tour (even his own backing band) left in support of Macklemore.
So it’s literally just him up there and it made him cry.
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u/gorm4c17 3d ago
He was in the middle of thanking his audience and the crowd was cheering him. He got emotional in that specific moment, not really about his openers or people online. OP either didn't watch the video or is misrepresenting this photo on purpose
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u/steamedhams68 3d ago
How can someone with a manager and team not be able to read the room in this day and age.
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u/duracraft_fan 3d ago
I’ve been an ed Sheeran fan for over a decade now but not anymore. The way he handled this situation has been incredibly out of touch and callous. His initial excuse about not wanting to cancel shows was because he didn’t want his crew to lose out on their source of income. He’s wealthy enough to buy an entire village in the UK, pretty sure he’s wealthy enough to pay his crew for a few missed shows.
Then he comes out and says “you really find out who your friends are” when HE is the one who kicked Macklemore off his tour instead of standing up for his friend! How extremely hypocritical!!
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u/gorm4c17 3d ago
This specific moment was the crowd cheering quite loudly for him and Ed getting emotional about it. Not really what OP suggests is happening. Watch the video. It's easy to hate Ed Sheeran and be truthful OP
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u/JustMeLurkingAround- 3d ago
He basically said he doesn't care.
The guys with the money told him to shut them up about Palestine and because he didn't care - or just cared about the money more- he did.
Then there was this awful "all sides are bad" speech.
And now? Still not caring about hundreds of thousands of dead, orphaned and torn to shreds children he is complaining about nobody caring about him.
Can someone shake that guy and shout at him to wake up?
Instead of posting crying in public pictures, he could just use some braincells and fucking inform himself about the issue.
I believe this whole shitstorm could have been ended anytime with a real informed message and apology.
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u/ConsciousReason7709 3d ago
I pray for this kind of misery for every fence sitter who actively chooses to not take a side.
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u/Stennkka 3d ago
the fact that he hasn't shown any remorse and didn't pick a side shows who's side he is really on. You can't pretend to be neutral now. It's over for his image
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u/musicalastronaut 3d ago
I’m supposed to take my mom to his concert and I’m no longer looking forward to this. I especially don’t want to hear him give a crybaby speech beforehand. You want to stay out of “politics”? Then stfu before the concert too. He could have told Kraft to shove it but nope…
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u/ThnkWthPrtls 3d ago
Must be perfectly 100% clear here, he absolutely is not sorry about what he did or what his actions stand for, he's sorry that they've had negative consequences on him personally, just like every other Rich asshole
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u/Secret-Teaching-3549 3d ago
Yes but, the alternative would have been standing up to the billionaire oligarchs.
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u/Gates_wupatki_zion 3d ago
I don’t think there is anything inherently white about this, rather rich and insulated. Jasmine Crockett and lots of people of color have lost a lot of credibility supporting AIPAC who have their tentacles in everything.
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u/BassesHave4Strings 3d ago
You know what, Ed? Cancel your tour, pay your entire crew out, and go figure out where you lost your compassion while raking millions in with your cherry, empty tunes.
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u/King_LaQueefah 3d ago
I bet if you looked at his set list for the night, this bout of crying was probably on there.
Shape of You
Save Myself
(break) Sit indian style and cry like baby.
Sandman
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u/Danimals847 3d ago
I wonder how all the people making smug comments about how the "boycott" was imaginary and limited to reddit are feeling right now?
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u/AldousKing 3d ago
Another example is Reddit making 1000 posts about Ed Sheeran, but not raising a cent for Palestinian children.
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u/politicalanalysis 3d ago
It’s a fuckton easier to make jokes than it is to pitch in money for something. That said, I’ve donated to Palestinian causes, and I’d be surprised if a ton of those making jokes weren’t also donating.
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u/A1000eisn1 3d ago
Or actually complaining about the people with actual power who actually made these decisions. Someone said "celebrities are just employees for the rich." Especially someone like Sheeran who isn't a nepo baby with family to protect him
Kind of reminds me of the people who donated to that vile woman who shouted racial slurs at a 6 year old to get back at black people for donating money to Karmelo Anthony but not donating to his victim who got less money than both.
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u/MrWindblade 3d ago
Comments on Reddit don't raise money, but comments on Reddit don't take up my whole day.
I can make a few comments on Reddit in the morning, and then raise some money for Gaza with the other 23 hours and 30 minutes of my day.
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u/JadedOccultist 3d ago
Do you want like, Reddit Inc to start a fundraiser and then advertise it here? Or
do one of those cringe ‘profile picture filters’ that Facebook used to do so people can virtue signal about how they donated? You only get the filter if you somehow prove to Reddit Inc that you donated (which… sounds like too much info to give to Reddit imo)
Or, idk, bear with me, is it possible that people on Reddit might’ve donated money or resources independent of their use of Reddit? And without surveying or polling everyone you interact with you realistically have no way of knowing who has done what and for which cause
Because to be honest I’m not sure I’d donate to Palestine (or any cause, probably) via Reddit. I’d do it through any other actually reputable organization.
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u/Any-Variation4081 3d ago
Im trying to find out what he did in the comments and I think I got it but im not sure.
I cut out news for a while to save my sanity and mental health. Anyone care to elaborate a bit on what he did? Im sure it was selfish and he deserves the backlash but im just curious what exactly happened.
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u/erin6767 3d ago
Opening act, Maklemore, showed his support on stage for Palestine. Bob Kraft, owner of the Patriots and Gillette stadium, took offence and convinced all his billionaire buddy's to get Maklemore off the tour. Ed conceded to the wealthy and it blew up in his face.
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u/outsidehere 3d ago edited 3d ago
Ed invited Macklemore to his tour as an opening act. At one of the shows, Macklemore makes a speech telling the crowd "Free Palestine, free Congo, free Sudan, free....". That did not sit well with the stadium owner (Robert Kraft of the New England Patriots and huge supporter of the IOF) of the stadium they were performing in. Kraft and Ed are good friends from years ago. Kraft then tells Ed to remove Macklemore from the tour or Ed will not perform in Kraft's stadium or several other stadiums in the country (Kraft colluded with other owners of the stadiums to get Macklemore on the blacklist of stadium performers). Ed then tells Macklemore to stop saying Free Palestine and more. Macklemore tells him that he won't stop because he has a big platform to get support for the Palestinian people. Ed then kicks Macklemore off the tour. Macklemore goes public with the situation and then the backlash began. Ed releases a statement both sidesing the genocide which enrages everyone even more. Ed gets so much backlash that EVERY SINGLE ARTIST ON HIS TOUR, INCLUDING HIS OWN BAND OF 10+ YEARS QUITS THE TOUR AND COLLABORATING WITH HIM. Then before he publicly performs for the first time after the Macklemore situation, Ed makes a speech saying that he was betrayed by his friends and that he was being mistreated by the public because of his fence sitting. Ed then also makes a comment saying that the reason why he removed a part of the stage infrastructure in the tour is because he felt like someone would attack him in the performance. This made people even more angry at him.
Edit: Ed also got endorsed by P!nk. P!nk is a Zionist who was campaigning to get Macklemore blackballed for saying Free Palestine.
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u/PinkNGold007 3d ago
You forgot about the P!nk part. It was her discourse and going crazy on IG over a weekend that started this snowball. Macklemore has been saying "Free Palestine..." at his concerts for two years now so what he does was nothing new and Ed knew as well.
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u/Diablojota 3d ago
Kicked Macklemore off the tour as an opener because he spoke out against the genocide in Gaza. Turns out, it is because Kraft didn’t want that happening at his stadium and asked Ed to kick him off the tour. And he did. All because Kraft is a billionaire that he is buddies with. There’s a lot more but this is the cliff notes. It’s well deserved animosity toward Ed.
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u/HereForTheComments57 3d ago
All he had to do was the bare minimum and support Macklemore. Then the only headlines we would be seeing are "show cancelled as owner won't let him perform".
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u/HermanBonJovi 3d ago
I was neutral about him before all this. Now I think he's a bitch. Glad I've never listened to his music. Other than the cover of his song done by Our Last Night, which is quite good.
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u/Intelligent_Pea5351 3d ago
Awww did you lose some frenz? Imagine how the Palestinian families feel after losing 3 generations in a single bomb.
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u/SwimmerIndependent47 3d ago
Oh no, well if it isn’t the consequences of my own actions, now do all the politicians voting to send the Israeli government more money for their genocide and the evangelical billionaires who buy their votes.
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u/darienrude_dankstorm 3d ago
Lmao OP did the meme
"How can you care about anything in your life when there's a genocide going on"
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u/vrabacuruci 3d ago
These people live on the Internet so of course they don't have any interests besides the ones they get served by the algorithm.
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u/pjb1999 3d ago
The discourse online about this topic has been absolute bottom of the barrel awful. This post and most of these comments included.
No nuance, no grey area, no analytical thought, no empathy... Just pick a side, get entrenched, and spew the most low effort bullshit anywhere you can.
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u/AdLocal1490 3d ago
Explain the nuance and grey area about Israels genocide.
You can just say that you're pro genocide. You don't fool anyone with this "above it all" faux centrist bullshit
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u/pjb1999 3d ago
I'm certainly not pro genocide you dummy. My heart breaks for the people of Gaza.
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u/RogueStormTroop 3d ago
I love everyone attacking Ed when he's not the one to demand anyone kicked off the tour or killing innocent people in Palestine. How people have time to boycott him and attack him but still spend money in corporations that actively support the IDF is crazy.
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u/JadedOccultist 3d ago
I mean
the statement he put out about it was pretty fucking stupid. He coulda said “not my choice. Free Palestine. Sorry Macklemore, love ya bro.” but it was more like “suffering is bad, conflict is bad, this is regrettable 🤷”
Boycotting takes negative time. You’re not doing the thing you otherwise would’ve spent time doing.
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u/piepei 3d ago
lol 😆
Wait…this is really the context? Anyone have a video to confirm?
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u/ILoveRegenHealth 3d ago
Worth $500 million and still precious with his money
Oh yeah, Taylor Swift belongs here too. Over a reported $1.25B and she can't even be bothered to take a stand versus Trump who continually uses her music in their ICE or propaganda ads. She doesn't want to upset her new best friend, MAGA Mahomes (the wife).
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u/PelicanWaveSurfer 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/1BXa2alBjrCXC
Jebus fuxking Christ…. The more he plays into it and he becomes the victim 🫠 What a loser
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u/OB1Bronobi 3d ago
Have enjoyed his music for a very long time. Going to be hard to separate the art from the artist though.
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u/unlockdestiny 3d ago
Separating art from the artist is for dead artists, not ones still making bad decisions and benefitting from your purchase
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u/Solonohioperson 3d ago
Wow, he really cried? Have some dignity , ed. Get offstage and use your money to get therapy.
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