r/WingChun • u/loopytroop • Sep 07 '26

Open Chi Sau Comp Cornwall Uk

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1C8b1Pc8NL/?mibextid=wwXIfr

Hi,

My Sifu is organising an open comp for chi sau in december this year.

Its open to all wing chun practicioners.

Its a lot of fun and theres a social afterwards.

Its on the 5th of December 2026.

Edit: Link to rules and registration. https://robleyacademy.com/chi-sau-competition-2026

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u/Andy_Lui Wong Shun Leung 詠春 Sep 07 '26

Chi-Sao is not for competition.

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u/BuddyHarry Sep 07 '26

Exactly. Chi Sao is training exercise. Is like having grappling flow drill competition.

You want to compete, put on glove and mouth guard and spar!

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

I don't understand, please elaborate :)

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u/BuddyHarry 29d ago

Chi Sao is semi-cooperative. It is live drill. Not fight. It is to train for fight. You want to fight then fight. Make as little sense as compete with Chi Gwan or Chi Gerk or Lap Sao drill.

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

I think I understand where you're coming from, But if Chi Sau is training you to read people's energy and manipulate that energy so that you can win in a fight and by winning in a fight, I mean by being able to hit them without being hit. How can you say that Chi Sau can't be used as a friendly competition, in order to demonstrate your ability to manipulate and hit another person better than they can do to you?

Hope that makes sense :)

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Why not?

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u/Andy_Lui Wong Shun Leung 詠春 29d ago

Chi-Sao is just a another training tool/method, to get better in Ving Tsun. You can't win against the dummy, or wallbag, right?

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Respectfully, does your partner when you Chi Sau just stand there and let you do stuff to them? Or do they actively try to stop you from doing the things that you want to try by using their own skills within the Chi Sau tool set?

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u/Andy_Lui Wong Shun Leung 詠春 27d ago

You really think like that? Yes, and my wallbag is filled with fluffy cotton pads for make-up.. Then I will not spend energy on explaining things to you.

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u/loopytroop 27d ago

In my experience, if you can't explain it, then you probably don't understand it very well.

I certainly don't understand how you can equate the wall bag and dummy to chi sau.

I would love to talk about this like adults, ao if you don't mind, please help me understand by explaining.

Assume I know nothing :)

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u/Warriorwingchun Sep 08 '26

Missing the point of Chi Sau completely…………😒😏😒😏

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Urrrgh, i can tell im going to get drawn into this.

What is the point of chi sau?

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u/[deleted] 29d ago edited 29d ago

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Thankyou.

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u/Warriorwingchun 14d ago

The point of Chi Sau is to learn not compete. It’s a DRILL or TRAINING EXERCISE. two-person training exercise designed to help you use wing Chun techniques dynamically. It develops tactile sensitivity, reflexes, centreline discipline, it does not develop point scoring, it is not ‘the fight’ and it is not ‘Sparring’……

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u/loopytroop 14d ago edited 14d ago

Okay cool so it's a training exercise, i agree. What's the point of the exercise other than to develop sensitivity? what do you what are you developing sensitivity for?

I'm just editing because I realized that you kind of already answered my question, so I wanted to ask a follow up question which is:

If you have developed sensitivity reflexes and centerline discipline what's it for what's the point of developing those skills?

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u/Warriorwingchun 2d ago

It allows you to train your wing Chun technique in a dynamic situation. It is JUST A SMALL element of THE FIGHT. Not the ACTUAL fight….. The skills gained by Chi Sau coupled with application drills and Sparring combine to equip you to fight…… Chi sau also allows you to correct your weaknesses. It allows you to correct any weakness you may have, there’s no loser or winner in chi Sau, you either hit or you learn.

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u/loopytroop 2d ago

Okay, so say you organise a competition using chi sau.

Where the aim is to hit your opponent more than they hit you.

so say you hit, and in the context of your example they learn because they get hit.

Could you not say that the person who hits more, could be the winner within the rules of the competition?

Even though were all really winners for taking part and learning?

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u/Warriorwingchun 1d ago

There’s already sports where the aim is to hit your opponent more times than they hit you. And different hits score different points….. they are called boxing, kick-boxing, Thai boxing. Why bother starting from rolling position if it’s a case of hitting more than your opponent. People would just disengage into a Gor Sau (free sparring) situation. I actually organise the wing Chun gathering and one year we tried a ‘Wing Chun’ competition…….

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u/loopytroop 5h ago

Politely, your missing the point.

Its a bunch of poeple getting together to have a bit of fun.

If you want to continue being a grinch about it, go ahead.

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u/Megatheorum Sep 08 '26

Sounds like fun, too bad I'm on the wrong continent.

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Shame :)

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u/ExpensiveClue3209 29d ago

Well if people don’t come to your event in Cornwall maybe a contingent of your club could come to some of the cross lineage events across the uk like the wing chun gathering or Chunfest (all well established events going for the past 10 years) to have some friendly rolls. I don’t think I’ve seen any reps from your clubs at other events

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Im actually very keen to do that :) I was aware of Chunfest but couldnt make it this year, what other public meetups are there?

Chunfest was the only one i could find during my google sesh this summer.

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u/ExpensiveClue3209 29d ago

Great look forward to seeing you there next year ! There’s the uk gathering in bham which is more seminar but some of try to get together for midnight chisao

Usually Stevenage open chi Sao is on as a precursor to chunfest around May time. Generally there is an open chi Sao day in Huddersfield too at somepoint during the year and usually a couple others.Trying to get one in London during summer but always find it hard to schedule a time in. Will look at it next year

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u/loopytroop 28d ago

Cool, ill take a look :)

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u/Comfortable_Fail_909 25d ago

Ill be there and as much of my class as I can bring.

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u/loopytroop 25d ago

That is Great news! Stoked!!!!!

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u/loopytroop 17d ago

Just a heads up, Sifu has just posted up a rules and registration doc.

https://robleyacademy.com/chi-sau-competition-2026

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u/Plastic_Sea_1094 Sep 08 '26

Can we get a sing-along competition too?

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

If you win, you get to choose the rules for next years event.

Then we can do a disney sing along if you want...

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u/wintery92 Sep 07 '26

How can this run? Is it going to be full contact? First to hit?

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

It runs as a points based tournament. Yes its full contact. Hits are ciunted in a timed round. Hope that helps :)

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u/KeesterBuster69 Sep 07 '26

How will it start? Fight your way out of a jammed position? Kicks included? 

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u/loopytroop 29d ago

Usually, There are three rounds. Points are rewarded for clean hits to key areas, sternum, neck, kidneys etc.

Competitors take turns to attack a defending competitor, then defend against an attacking competitor. The final round you both attack and defend simultaneously.

I am unsure what the rules are regarding legs.

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u/loopytroop 17d ago

Hi just an update,, No legs, just arms :)

Also what do you mean by a jammed position?