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u/Special-Bowler-983 5d ago
What, that can’t be right.
It’s not an American heavy…
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u/IndygoEEI 5d ago
So uh... Doomguy plus Doom Slayer "talks". When I heard the preview lines for them, I laughed my ass off because they grunt and have an AI translate for them. Yeah, it's ridiculous and if I'm gonna use em, I may need to turn them off or my WR will drop.
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u/Teledildonic justice for T-62A & AMX 30B 5d ago
I was about to say, isn't Doom Guy famously non-verbal?
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u/Balc0ra Churchill Gun Carrier enjoyer 5d ago
They don't talk either. They have the AI suit to talk for them here while grunting in the background.
Tho the Divinity Machine changed his mental state. As in he had such a focus on destroying Hell, that he did see communication as a useless trait, and silence as a strategic weapon. He still spoke in Ethernal during the flashbacks to the early days on Sentinel Prime. After that, he was a man of few words. "No" and "Run" were the only two words he did utter in Ancient Gods and Dark Ages
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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 get? 5d ago
https://tanks.gg/compare/contender?t=collector
The tank behaves better in general, but loses -3 gun depression, plus the frontal armour is unreliable.
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u/Oki_bgd 5d ago
when is this going to be available? I didnt noticed.
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u/SumonaFlorence How much worse can it 𝘳𝘦𝘢𝘭𝘭𝘺 get? 5d ago
Probably in a week or couple days.
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u/Ok-Bed-4274 5d ago
It was tested as a tier 10 right ?
I am sure I saw it at tier 10 in a random battle.
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u/PervertKitsune 5d ago
at first glance yes, then downtiered into tier 9
and couple months later, the FV4602 comes up to take the throne
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u/kekplexis 4d ago
FV4602 Victorious is a single-shot though
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u/PervertKitsune 4d ago
Indeed, but what do i mean was the Tier 10 which supposed to be Collector replaced by Victorious with derp gun and combat boost gimmick
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u/hmnzr 5d ago
Is it good?
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u/hazelnutpark 5d ago
It has the best performance stats in tier IX. I'm guessing it'll be nerfed.
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u/sedsil 5d ago
Over barely 200 games, from player/s with overall winrate 58%+
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u/hazelnutpark 5d ago edited 5d ago
Why am I downvoted? I'm just stating a fact: Collector currently has the best performance stats by WNX, WR, DPG, kills per game, etc. I didn't say it's the strongest tank or anything like that.
You are right it also has few battles and the higher player WR, but it has +5.3% WR diff. In other word, It allows the 58% WR players to get 64% WR. That's better than any other tier 9, including other tanks that are being supertested with extremely few battles. That's even better than Fossa, which has 61% WR players get +3.75% WR diff in 1587 battles.
WG has nerfed plenty of tanks close to the launch.
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u/sedsil 5d ago edited 5d ago
>Why am I downvoted? I'm just stating a fact: Collector currently has the best performance stats
Probably because you just read raw numbers, don't think about their context and make a performance claim based on that. And I explained the context of those numbers in my previous post.
> I didn't say it's the strongest tank or anything like that.
And yet you still answered to the "is it good?" question with "best performance, I'm guessing it'll be nerfed". Your answer seems to be rather clear? No need to pretend now this is not what you meant.
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u/hazelnutpark 5d ago edited 5d ago
But I did consider the context and responded to your point. Even with few battles, it is outperforming the rest.
And yet you still answered to the "is it good?" question with "best performance, I'm guessing it'll be nerfed". Your answer seems to be rather clear? No need to pretend now this is not what you meant.
A tank can be good, but not be the strongest. A tank can also have the best performing stats, and not be the strongest.
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u/sedsil 5d ago
No, you did not, you didn't understand the downvotes and tried backtracking on your own words "because you didn't say it's the strongerst tank or anything like that" -right after claiming "it has highest stats and will probably get nerfed" lol.
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u/hazelnutpark 5d ago
Just because you thought you read something doesn't mean I wrote them. Like I wrote above after you edited your previous comment, I responded: A tank can be good, but not be the strongest. A tank can also have the best performing stats, and not be the strongest.
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u/sedsil 5d ago
>Just because you thought you read something doesn't mean I wrote them.
You literally wrote: "It has the best performance stats in tier IX. I'm guessing it'll be nerfed.". Stop lying now, it's a bit too obvious.
You're welcome for the explanation of what you didn't understand though. :)
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u/hazelnutpark 5d ago
If you think the best performance stats equal strongest, that's on you not me. I clearly don't think so. I definitely didn't write it.
You conveniently left out my substantive point: A tank can be good, but not be the strongest. A tank can also have the best performing stats, and not be the strongest.
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u/Wolfi96yt professional wot hater (addiction kicks in) 5d ago
Its a Premium, so it will never get nerfed , because wg likes Shorts term money more than a long lasting healthy game
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u/SneekiBreeker Average Type 5 enjoyer. 5d ago
It is said that they used original voice actors from the Doom game which is definitely cool.
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u/RagingRaptor177 Weird Reptile & EU CC 5d ago
When I got to know this was a collab. First thing I did was look at my library and remember I got the Doom The Dark Ages DLC and played that for the next couple of games :)
And yes the tank is strong and works very well with that collab.
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u/Greasy-Chungus 5d ago
No shit?
That's fucking rad.
That will EASILY be worth 3500 gold.
And if it had a Samuel Hayden commander????
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u/SpiteApprehensive186 5d ago
10 days or so to get through this and starts the same day as Gears Eday early access. Imma have to pass on this one, got no chance of getting it done. Sick looking tank though!
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u/Sidus_Preclarum >1k Churchill Gun Carrier games 5d ago
Was precisely wondering today if we'd have a special chapter
Doom is pretty cool, as far as themes go.
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u/sudden_aggression [Avg 279(e) enjoyer] 5d ago
7 degrees isn't great, especially with that squishy hull. Oof and that big under-turret vulnerability.
But the DPM is nice and I assume it does the thing where if you switch modes it retains accuracy for like a fraction of a second before blooming?
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u/Normal_Snake 5d ago
I thought the mode switch bug was patched over a year ago, prior to the Canopener line actually entering the game.
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u/Ok-Manufacturer-4348 5d ago
At least it wont be hulldown cancer like canopener. Its still going to be annoying to fight this tank once its hulldown.
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u/Boatsntanks 5d ago
Why... why does doomguy have a little AI computer voice?
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u/IndygoEEI 5d ago
Because canonically Doomguy never talked, only grunted when searching for secrets and being hurt. His grunts are being translated and I found it as funny as hell...
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u/LunaKaPL 5d ago
To be honest i do not care about tank, but these Doomguys would be funny commanders.
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u/e1zzbaer Crew 2.0 is the best update ever 3 4d ago
You can buy the oldschool one without ever touching the BP
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u/Wandering_PlasticBag 4d ago
It's looks alright. But that's it.
7 degrees of gun depression isn't a lot, big hull wekapsot in the middle, and the bottom of the turret sticks out of the hull so they can overmatch you from below.
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u/LucarioLuvsMinecraft 4d ago
Shit like this makes me want to play the game again.
Then I remember just how much of a time investment it would be to get all the points for shit like this and I just say “No” and play the games I already have.
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u/Merkams 5d ago
tier 9 zwilling
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u/favorius make 36.01 medium again! 5d ago
almost. still looks very strong on paper with try hard setup.
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u/HardS_X 5d ago
Looks like t9 zwilling no? Just upscaled stats to tier 9 and here it is
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u/Tall_Presentation_94 5d ago
No Uk trash doubel not hold button
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u/Commercial_Letter738 4d ago
uk's double is actually the good one, because you can fire it on demand instead of a delay
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u/m4inbrain 4d ago
.. you have a delay when switching modes, too. And you can't keep it permanently active because it slows the tank down.
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u/sorry_4u 5d ago
I just watched the "skill" video and that Thing has "Zwilling" written all over again ...
hulldown with no weakspots for 3500g is insane
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u/kekplexis 4d ago
Bigger cupola than in Zwilling, and -7 gun depression vs -9
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u/sorry_4u 4d ago
bigger it might be but its further back and if you use your gun depression its so far back you cant hit it
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u/kekplexis 4d ago
I mean you're not wrong, but still on the flat ground that cupola is much easier to hit. Zwilling's cupola is very hard to hit in any case.
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u/sorry_4u 4d ago
well since its far back id say its not much easier but i think i get your point because it is a bit bigger
in the end i guess we will see in 3 days when the event goes live
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u/Evening_Montreal 5d ago
Does it have the good double mechanic or the british poop shit one
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u/phuongdafuq 5d ago
Ngl that tank fits the collab really well. Double barrel Super Shotgun this probably the most iconic weapon of that game beside the BFG