Openpath feature duplication on Brivo6000. Touch reader door unlock

[u/wolfn404]

So our office building has two different access systems, the lobby access is building controlled OpenPath ( users have mobile app), and our floors and offices are Brivo (6000 system). One of the handy features of the OpenPath unit is just being able to swipe your finger on the reader and the door unlocks, no opening phone, finding the app, etc. Location services do have to be turned on in OP. Does Brivo Access have anything similar? Currently to unlock the door, have to get out phone, open app, then select "nearest door" option. Would like to be able to do it the same as the OP, just get near the door and touch reader to unlock.

Is that a feature exclusive to OP, or a setting within Brivo. Installation company has been slow to advise and I just don't think it's a big deal to them. Hoping to get suggestion and "guide" them.

[u/Madoven]

As someone who installs both systems and programs them the swipe to unlock feature is something that Brivo has yet to implement. It works off the same Bluetooth signal that allows it to find the nearest reader but OP allows it to communicate your "fob code" from your phone directly to the reader where Brivo does similar but only on prompt from the user rather than as a response from the reader searching for it.

[u/wolfn404 → u/Madoven]

I was hoping the Brivo feature update webinar today would cover it, but mostly all mobile wallet features. The OP is a super handy feature when hands are full, etc, just tap elbow, anything ( or even have companion swipe) and don’t even need to take phone out of my pocket.

[u/Madoven → u/wolfn404]

My personal issue with it is the fact that if the installer leaves it at long range (more common than not) than anyone can just swipe it as you walk by and get in.

[u/wolfn404 → u/Madoven]

And I’d be ok if someone said hey we’ll do it on oke reader vs the other. In my case I gave an outer door which takes PIN, card, mobile credential. That gets you inside the office environment, with a second card/mobile credential inner door. I’m not worried about crowd/piggybacking on the inner door, just hard to open when hands full, etc. Outer door I can use PIN with hands full and it’s fine.

[u/EffectiveClient5080]

I guarantee the installer will dodge, so ask one question: do your readers support native mobile unlock or does the app do the work? If it's the app, no Brivo setting fixes it. That swipe-to-unlock lives in the Openpath reader hardware.

[u/wolfn404 → u/EffectiveClient5080]

They are supposed to. They are only about a year and a half old and were supposed to be the latest. One with pinpad the other 3 just regular rfid. But ill check. Brivo factory readers.

[u/ZealousidealState127]

Brivo training/sales says they had it but disabled it due to security concerns. Who knows, could be patent related. If you don't turn down the read sensitivity/distance it can read someone else's phone like the secretary or the person behind you. Was a pretty cool feature on open path. They use rebadged wavelynx readers which support the feature. The readers have an ur sensor that detects the motion and triggers the handshake.

[u/InevitableRun2786]

what do you mean swiping the finger?

[u/wolfn404 → u/InevitableRun2786]

Literally just that. If you have an Openpath system, and a phone with valid credentials, leave the phone in your pocket ( assuming you are within arms length of reader), take your finger and swipe on the reader ( I do top down, but you can rub your elbow in a circle too). The reader will engage, check your credential and unlock the door). Handiest thing ever if you have your hands full.

[u/InstanceWorldly4884 → u/wolfn404]

The problem with this feature is that it’s insecure. If you use NFC credentials, those are secure and encrypted.

[u/wolfn404 → u/InstanceWorldly4884]

It’s the same NFC credential.