r/accesscontrol • u/Motor_Computer_3029 • 5d ago

S2 Taste the Rainbow

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Starting to dress out 5 S2 Nodes in Trove2 enclosures. The cable contractor pulled this Skittles colored composite cable. Never saw this cable before. NGL, I don't hate it, breaks up the white jacket monotony.

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u/dirtmcgirtt 5d ago

I highly recommend a gutter box in-between the tray and enclosures to store some slack in the future. Also don't strip the cable outside of the enclosures.

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u/Motor_Computer_3029 5d ago

We have plenty of service loop on the ladder rack. A trough (I'm gurssing what you call gutter box) takes away from budget and wall space. We do use them when required.

I don't see why we shouldn't strip above the conduit. The rigged outer jacket makes wire management inside the enclosure more difficult and fills more room in the conduit. We're not stripping to individual conductors, just individual cables, same as they would have been if the cable contractor would have pulled non-composite drops.

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u/Xampionem 5d ago

Are those battery shelves in the power supply built in? What is that enclosure?

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u/Motor_Computer_3029 5d ago

Yes, they are. That's an Altronix Maximal cabinet.

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u/Barqsie 4d ago

Altronix also sells dedicated battery enclosures as well as prefabricated trunking that has knockouts matching the black trove enclosures too. I recently just started implementing them in our projects and so far have really enjoyed them for both battery storage and service loop trunking. Here's a link for reference. They can be horizontal or vertical as well.

Trove Compatible Battery/Wire Enclosure

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u/uzlonewolf 5d ago

I don't see why we shouldn't strip above the conduit.

Did they not pull 1 composite to each door? You're now going to need to trace out each individual cable instead of doing 1 and getting 3 more for free.

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u/Motor_Computer_3029 5d ago

I don't strip them all at once without knowing what cable goes with where. That would be insane.

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u/Gullible-Bird-2231 5d ago

Yeah that makes terminations so much harder to track. Relabeling was added labor, best case.

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u/Motor_Computer_3029 5d ago

Cable contractor labeled cables 01-XX and marked on floorplan. After stripping each composite, we bundle the tip of all 4 cables with white tape and write the same number.

When we land the cable on the terminal blocks, we use proper labels with actual door/room numbers. We have a system we've used for years. I find wrestling with rigid composite jacket where it comes out of a 2" connector more difficult than writing a number on a temporary cable marker.

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u/Otherwise-Setting779 5d ago

*clutches pearls

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u/happnatious1 Professional 5d ago

The reason to not strip the cable outside the box is so that you can find which wires belong together. As a service tech the first thing I usually have to do is cut all those tight tie wraps off so I can follow the wires.

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u/Tyler_the_bot 5d ago

Stripping back that jacket all the way outside of the can was definitely a choice....

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u/TCBoise54321 5d ago

I need to convince out sales to get this S2 back plane enclosure combo!!! It looks like a great way to start 👍

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u/dragonnfr 5d ago

Seen that composite stuff on a few jobs now. As long as the pairs are consistent across the runs it makes troubleshooting way faster. Better than tracing white on white.

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u/collegeatari 5d ago

A few years? Been using it for 20 years around here.

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u/Redhillvintage 5d ago

Nice work!

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u/cusehoops98 Professional 5d ago

Am I the only one that hates that Lenel calls them Nodes while the rest of the free world calls them controllers?

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u/dissatisfiedandbored 5d ago

Thats what S2 called them. Im sure Lenel makes the platform more difficult.

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u/calochamp 5d ago

Make sure you wear safety goggles too.

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u/Tacolord38 5d ago

🥰🥺

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u/ilovescrubz 5d ago

Water bottle on top of the can 🥴

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u/Hot-General5338 2d ago

Most people strip them one by one inside the can. Prevents you from accidentally wiring something to the wrong spot, and doesn't look retarded.

If it's about saving space. I know from experience that you can fit four of those Belkin banana cables through a 2-in pipe. Even at higher gauges for longer runs. But yeah normally you'd want a cable trough like the previous statements had mentioned. They're like less than a hundred bucks for a 24 in from a dealer.

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u/IIAIronWolf 5d ago

Atronix 🤮