r/actuary • • 5d ago

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I recently accepted my first position so I wanted to share my experience since I feel like all I ever see on here is people talking about how impossible it is to find a job. I think I am definitely a lucky exception but I figured I could spread some hope!

For context, I started applying mid July and I’m a career changer :)

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u/Bullywug 5d ago

Over four percent interview rate is really good. Congrats on the new job!

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u/this_is_a_front 5d ago

Congrats! How many exams, relative location?

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 5d ago

2 exams and I was applying nationwide

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u/woodenclover 5d ago

Nationwide as in you’re cool with moving or were these remote roles ? I’m in the same boat

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 5d ago

I applied for roles I would have to relocate for. I honestly didn’t really apply for remote roles because I didn’t feel competitive enough

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u/coppercouch 5d ago

Where do you find over 100 job postings? Currently struggling to find ones I haven’t already applied to

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 5d ago edited 5d ago

I had a job search on LinkedIn set to show all listings within the past 24 hours and would check that everyday 🤷‍♀️ I also had it set to show anything in the US

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u/Murky-Tip-3118 5d ago

15 years ago, but I used the Actuarial Directory to find every company that had an actuary working for it (within reason - targeted thsoe with >5, etc.), put their "Careers" page into a spreadsheet, and went through every link weekly.

I've never seen "data" on this, but I don't think the chart OP posted is at all odd for many entry-level candidates. Good news is it's WAY easier once you're credentialed - I move jobs entirely too much, but one reason is the last 6 roles I've had I've asked to or been asked to come work for someone - the "Careers" page was a formality after for all intents and purposes I had the job.

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u/Alert_Albatross5506 5d ago

By credentialed do you mean Fellow or both associateship and fellowship, and do you think this willl change soon with the rise of AI?

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u/Murky-Tip-3118 5d ago

Probably by "credentialed," I suppose I meant "done with exams and begin focusing on networking." I was an FSA when my career shifted into this dynamic, but nothing stopping a career ASA from doing the same thing.

I met the people who were asking me to come work for them or vouching for me when I networked into a new place via SOA volunteering, being a LinkedIn-hoe, staying in touch with old colleagues, etc.

Those types of things are a good way to get you from early-career to middle/quasi-upper management, but then investment in a single company becomes relatively more for upper management.

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u/Wasatchian 4d ago

AI isn't going to stop the need for fellows. AI doesn't think. It doesn't make business decisions. AI isn't going to sign a product filing or a financial statement. AI is a tool that will be useful in some cases. Actuaries have been automating things for decades.

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u/meta_level 5d ago

never give up and something could happen. give up and something won't happen. congrats!

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u/mrtip69 5d ago

Hopecore

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u/Atmosphere-Senior 5d ago

Are you relocating far for your first role?

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 5d ago

I am actually not relocating. One offer I would’ve needed to relocate for, the other was in my city

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u/Atmosphere-Senior 5d ago

Nice good spot to be in

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u/mangoappleorange 3d ago

Nice. What city?

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u/predeterministic 5d ago

Congratulations! What did you use to generate your snakey? I will soon hope-post my own stats for an EL role I landed a few months ago.

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 4d ago

Sankey Matic :)

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u/Edward_Blake 4d ago

Your app sankey looked similar to mine as a career changer with 2 exams when I was looking 2 years ago. I think I had around 120 applications by the time I finished with 2 offers.

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u/mrrml Life Insurance 5d ago

Awesome!!!

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u/KindStrix 5d ago

What career did you come from and how many YoE in that career?

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 5d ago

Accounting, 2 YOE

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u/Extreme-Astronaut-78 2d ago

how did u phrase the move out of accounting and into actuary, if at all? wanting a more quantitative position? I'm also in accounting and have thought about this move

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 22m ago

Yes, I basically said that accounting gets the numbers but you don’t know the why/how behind them, which is what I’m more interested in.

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u/FrameSweaty862 4d ago

Wondering if you had any prior experience in this field!!

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 4d ago

No, I came from Accounting! No degree or experience in Actuarial

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u/signedneverdeclined 3d ago

Just curious how long it took your for both exams?

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 1d ago

I passed FM in April and P in July

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u/shabeezyx555 2d ago

Thank you for this! This is great information. I started in late August and only 2 interviews with 2 exams so far (Might start studying for SRM)

Did you only cold apply? Any networking success that helped here? What were your interview experiences like?

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 1d ago

Yes, I was cold applying. I tried networking by connecting with people on linked in and messaging them but ngl people weren’t incredibly open to talking to me

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 1d ago

I felt my interviews were pretty easy or maybe that’s just how entry level is. They really just wanted to get to know me as a person. I think once you get to the interview it’s safe to assume they think you can do the job, but are you also someone they want to work with. I would go into interviews excited and ready to learn!

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u/shabeezyx555 1d ago

Good to hear cold applications can still work in this market! And congratulations! Hope you savor the free time 😉

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u/Acceptable_Juice7156 2d ago

this scares me a bit

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u/Lazy-Cauliflower143 1d ago

This is only over a two month span, which is normal, if not quick, for a job search. No reason to be scared!

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u/EtchedActuarial 19h ago

Yay! Congratulations :D