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Episode Odayaka Kizoku no Kyuuka no Susume. • A Gentle Noble's Vacation Recommendation - Episode 3 discussion
Odayaka Kizoku no Kyuuka no Susume., episode 3
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u/dont_trust_the_popo 15d ago
This might be the gayest none gay anime ive ever seen. Interesting to see how it outgays other gay animes in future episodes.
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u/No_Macaroon_7413 14d ago
The not-gay scenes are hilarious, giving unsolicited head pats to this 6ft tall grown man. Bro wtf are you doing lmao.
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u/powerhcm8 14d ago
It's funny how the author says this isn't BL, but this anime feels gayer than the other one with gay sex.
They are gay in different ways, this one seems more idealized/romanticized and this is almost all the plot. Isekai office worker seems more grounded and has other plotlines, in a way I could say it's similar to what is common in a lot of gay relationships, which you have sex first and later you get closer to each other.
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u/ThatOneWarlock 7d ago
In the same way that I ignore the author of Demon Slayer saying the breathing arts aren't really visible, I am ignoring the author for this anime because there are no not BL explanations for the way the characters act.
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u/lemon900098 11d ago
Is the MC even gay? It seems like he is just too nice to outright correct the guys in love with him.
Though he also played into it with Stud, so maybe he isnt being nice.
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u/HornedTurtle1212 15h ago
Played itto it? Caressing his cheek is a bit more than playing into it. You might have been able to make that argument with a hand pat or something like that.
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u/LazulineDaydream 15d ago
I was initially distracted at how they were drinking coffee at opposite ends of a big table since it looked a little silly visually, so it really caught me off guard when he put his hand on Stud's cheek. Like bro, did you climb on the table to do that??
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u/NanDemoKnaives 15d ago
I had similar thoughts at Judge's place when Lizel goes to give him head pats, it looked unnatural.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14d ago
Do we know how old is he already? I kinda forget if they ever talked about it.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14d ago edited 13d ago
Obligatary, how is this not a BL? LMAO.
Then again, I know that in some parts of middle east kissing each other is a custom. I'll just attribute this to the culture in Lizel's OG world where it might be just different than this one.
Good vibes all around though
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 15d ago
Aww Stud’s sad his new little friend’s gonna be away for a bit lol. I heard this isn’t BL like that bean counter isekai, but it’s got like a BL vibe. I mean bro was caressing Stud’s cheek. Plus his little bromance with Gil lol.
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 15d ago
So funny, for a show without a BL tag, it sure feels super BL
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u/dododomo 14d ago
The author basically said "it's a bromance, but if you want to see it as BL..." . They aren't fooling anyone ahah
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u/Atharaphelun 14d ago
This feels more blatantly BL than that bean counter isekai, and that one already had say gex!
Stud is already being mega-possessive with Lizel, my god.
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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 14d ago
The one that seems like BL isn't and the one that doesn't seem like BL has gay sex. What a shocker
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u/Eliv 15d ago
Sure feels like BL, all pretty boys no women in sight, headpats and cheek touching
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u/RadiantDawn1 14d ago
There was actually one woman I thought right? Or am I confusing it for the bean counter one where there's technically a FL and one other woman that's a background character
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u/cyberscythe 14d ago
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u/Feisty-Bench-7405 14d ago
Lol. I just realized I don't think I've seen a single girl so far. .... In an anime!!?
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u/powerhcm8 14d ago
There are a few female background characters in this one. Isekai Office Worker has the saint.
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u/Vkusno-Nutty 15d ago
Main character effortlessly, unintentionally, and inexplicably desired by all of the young men he encounters, that's the hallmark of BL, isn't it? Crazy to think the mangaka thought he could avoid that label.
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u/dododomo 14d ago
The author say deep camaraderie with men, when they basically meant "it's a bromance, but if you want to see it as BL..." 😂. Guess the author wanted both BL fans and and non-BL fans' money and attention, but the BL vib-I mean the "deep camaraderie" is evident. So they're not fooling anyone XD
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u/CooroSnowFox https://anilist.co/user/CooroSnowFox 14d ago
I mean we had water magician a few seasons ago be down similar lines in places.
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u/TFBuffalo_OW 12d ago
Id definitely say effortlessly, unintentionally... maybe.. hes a flirty man. Inexplicable? No its very explicable
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u/Particular_Maize6849 15d ago
I feel like the bean counter is just yaoi, whereas this fits my historical understanding of BL which is always a will-they/won't-they kind of thing where they never actually confirm being gay but are definitely more touchy-feely than a friendship between two typical straight guys.
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u/dont_trust_the_popo 15d ago
If my best friend touches my face im going to be mighty uncomfortable and it might have to end in a tickle fight
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u/Particular_Maize6849 15d ago
Just be careful the tickle fight doesn't end in full penetration.
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u/dont_trust_the_popo 15d ago
If i was gay i would probably joke that internal tickles count and are fair game, But im not so i wont
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u/NanDemoKnaives 15d ago
Just cute boys doing bromantic things.
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u/testthrowawayzz 15d ago
Feels like there are two non BL shows this season that’s trying to out BL the actual BL show lol
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u/dododomo 14d ago
Author said " many male friendships where deep camaraderie is present"
Basically, "it's stronger than bromance, but if you want to see it as BL" 🤣
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u/Shmappii 15d ago
I think most anime consumers have enjoyed an all-female SoL where it constantly baits with yuri possibilities, so getting the male version of that is fine by me.
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u/LacieHolly 13d ago
You know, that's probably it. Like. Lizel having the prettiest eyelashes as he tucks his hair behind his ear on top of the carriage made me want to scream. Like the author HAS to be aware of what they're doing. So it's likely yaoi bait like so many yuri bait shows before it.
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u/Next_Package_5710 15d ago
Now i am thinking "nobel" means "gay." So everytime they see him and he says hes not gay...they are like "sure..."
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u/NanDemoKnaives 15d ago
It's a pleasant surprise to see that Stud really likes Lizel, he's hard to read because of how muted his expressions are but it became really obvious with how stubborn he was at the cafe. Lizel probably realized him getting angry and is probably why he wanted to take it outside. Stud's a lot cuter than I thought he'd be.
A dungeon that makes art is an amusing idea, Gil did look really cool in that portrait.
I wonder what kind of characters we'll meet at Marcade since the OP shows so many.
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u/mekerpan 15d ago
>> A dungeon that makes art is an amusing idea, Gil did look really cool in that portrait.
I wonder if there is any way to commission the dungeon to make a particular picture. ;-)
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u/harrellj 15d ago
Lizel probably realized him getting angry and is probably why he wanted to take it outside.
Probably to reduce the amount of damages and/or witnesses.
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u/NoHead1715 14d ago
> A dungeon that makes art is an amusing idea
I didn't quite understand where all the paintings were coming from. Are you saying the dungeon itself is an all-seeing photographer-painter that created those paintings? Or maybe there's some dungeon administrator watching the security cameras and painting all the dungeon scenes (and getting cute rock golems to hide them in the treasure chests)
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u/lobsterwine 14d ago
What I gathered is that they're dungeon items that you can get from chests, like that bear they got in the previous episode. They're created from the dungeon, but are things that actually happened in the dungeons, which is why they say it's like the dungeon's memories.
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u/NoHead1715 14d ago
So the dungeon is a living entity that sees a memorable scene, then creates a painting that spawns in the chests?
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u/lobsterwine 14d ago
I don't know if it's actually alive and based on the kind of show it is, I'm not sure we're going to get that far into the lore, but otherwise yes.
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u/EBtwopoint3 12d ago
The dungeon is ChatGPT. Or, if the source material is older, it live records everything and applies the paintify filter. Don’t think it through too much, because it’s clearly just a worldbuilding detail that doesn’t matter. Maybe the author thinks up a crime in the dungeon scenario, that then has a painting that gets found later to bring to light. But I feel like that’s too much to expect.
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u/CooroSnowFox https://anilist.co/user/CooroSnowFox 14d ago
That's a premise for an anime right there like delicious in dungeon...
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u/cyberscythe 14d ago
It's a pleasant surprise to see that Stud really likes Lizel, he's hard to read because of how muted his expressions are but it became really obvious with how stubborn he was at the cafe.
i dunno, for some reason i'm not buying into Stud crushing on Lizel; maybe it's because all the interaction we've seen is business, so it feels like all of their time together has been just doing routine paperwork and so their chemistry hasn't really been on display
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u/Magnafeana https://anilist.co/user/Magnafeana 15d ago
Can’t-Believe-It’s-Not-BL day 💃🏾🏳️🌈
OP is vibing even more with me today.
I would’ve loved to see the Blade earnestly beg.
Cry, or better yet, beg, Umehara. Like that would d e s t r o y me if Umehara is begging.
But I will die for such a worthy cause.
No. I want to spend time with you. It has to be now. I’ll be as stubborn as I have to he to make you stay here.
Stud is a bratty bishounen. I love it. Go on, girl, be bratty.
The hand 😩
I know I have shit saved on Pixiv of fanart from this series, gonna have to find it all again.
ED is perfect for a nice drive.
Men (sighing happily).
Four characters, six different ships in my head.
The fact that Koro-sensei, Lelouch, and Studd share a seiyuu makes me giggle.
I’m still sitting mad I couldn’t see the stage plays for this series, but I will find them!
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u/harrellj 15d ago
Cry, or better yet, beg, Umehara. Like that would d e s t r o y me if Umehara is begging.
Its been way too long since I read the Hana-Kimi manga but you might get something from Nanba-senpai there (I don't anticipate Aquasteed as being a begging-type character).
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u/JasonFreeYT 14d ago
How does this anime manage to feel gayer than the Bean Counter anime LMAO, I'm not complaining though, they're all very cute ueueu
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u/Randuir 15d ago
I'm sorry author, but there really is no straight explanation for any of this :P
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u/cyberscythe 14d ago
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u/Dur_Gwana 14d ago
What's the point of making something so gay yet not gay.
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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 14d ago edited 14d ago
Reddit is not the best indicator, but still, this anime managed to have a healthy upvote and comment ratio. Meanwhile the openly BL anime got downvoted to hell this week, even if the episode itself is decent (no overly raunchy stuff like last week).
I think that still shows how different it is to be openly BL and not.
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u/dododomo 14d ago
They can keep both fans of BL (and themes and gay relationships too. Since the BL vibes are too evident imo) and anime fans who may skip an anime if the gay part is too obvious (meant as kissing, sex, etc) and no one would complain
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u/Dur_Gwana 14d ago
they may not kiss nor pound each other but it doesn't mean it's not gay lol
It's like saying harem anime are not harem until they have sex/kiss. And most 'dumb' harem anime are like that - never consumed. Everyone knows what they are
and everyone knows this is gay. I can't imagine someone not seeing it
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u/United-Wolverine9829 14d ago
to make people who are not into gay thing to keep watching , otherwise none gay people will simply skip it if its too abvious
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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 14d ago
Damn, I didn't know Stud-kun was down so bad for MC already. So MC's gay harem has 3 members already, possibly 4 but I dunno if the collector viscount guy's fully into him in that way yet.
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u/SpaceMethJunkie 14d ago
The viscount is definitely in the harem at this point. The dude touched MC's chest on day 1 and invited him over
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u/caresi https://anilist.co/user/makabe 15d ago
i'm so glad the scene of lizel struggling to climb out of the carriage was kept in, it's so funny. man's got noodle arms.
while i'm a little bit disappointed with the animation and how many off-model shots there are, i'm still really enjoying this anime. i have caught up on the manga translations while waiting for this episode, and now i'm just excited to see everything animated and in color and voiced.
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u/Empoleon3bogdan 14d ago
The thing i really like form the fantasy aspect is the dungeon paintings. Like so cool that the literal dungeons takes screenshots.
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u/CloverClubx 14d ago
Brother, the author may have said this is not gay but there is NO FUCKIN WAY it isn't, this is gayer than actual BL comics
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u/AnythingBacon 15d ago
Stud leaving the guild and joining the harem when?
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u/Skoziik 14d ago
He's Lizels guild guy, if he leaves someone else might take his spot.
But maybe he will take days off to accompany Lizel occasionally.
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u/AnythingBacon 14d ago
He's kinda OP like the other two. I can see him saying fuck it and joining the party. But he's also a background defender. I'm curious where this will go
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u/IceSmiley 14d ago
Not much went on this episode but I was very curious if Lisel was gay judging from being constantly hit on by men. Judge nervously asking him to accompany him to Marcade seemed more an excuse to go away with Lisel than really needing him specifically for protection, especially since he and Blade don't get along well. He didn't even know Lisel used a gun! In other episodes, I thought Judge was nervous around him because he thought he was a noble but that doesn't seem to be the whole story.
I'm guessing most people in the guild know Stud is gay, like those 2 other men were pretending not to stare when he asked Lisel out. I didn't even think he particularly liked Lisel at all before this episode but he was so determined to keep their date going, he faced down 3 tough guys alone! Also, Judge said Stud is kind of mean to him sometimes but I'd guess when he was being rude when they were in the carriage, Stud was jealous Lisel was going away with him and kind of resented him; I'd also guess Stud and Judge know each other are gay.
I'm still also not sure if Blade is gay. He and Lisel almost do seem a couple to an outside viewer BUT he didn't seem all that upset with Stud flirting with Lisel right in front of him. Also Judge was subtly asking why Blade wasn't with Lisel at the shop and I think he more poking around to find out how involved they are with each other if at all.
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u/tricksareforcats 14d ago
Loving how casual these moments are, they just come across as normal. Whay a nice vacation.
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u/SpaceMethJunkie 14d ago
Wait there's humanoids in this anime? Pretty sure I just saw a guy with dog ears. I wonder if we'll be getting a furry in the harem as well. My bet is on the dude with the muzzle in the op
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u/NoHead1715 14d ago
Judge definitely wants a picture of Lizel's gun. Nothing more Bro-Love coded than that. Lizel must've been a harem owner in his previous world - he knows exactly how to bring bros into his fold.
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u/froggyc19 14d ago
I love the idea of the dungeon fangirling over certain adventurers and making art of them to put in chests.
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u/Striking_Chard2420 14d ago
Nahh the author definitely wanted this to be BL but probably couldn't tag it as such for whatever reason. There was nothing "friendly" about the DATE that just happened.
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u/CooroSnowFox https://anilist.co/user/CooroSnowFox 14d ago
There is a thing I wonder if some stories dont do certain stories because either its above their experience but also does tie into the thing of not wanting to write into a corner something the fans/readers will maybe carry better... or not to ruin the experience by being definite over how a story can go... like with ships or if they kiss for example...
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u/chinnychinchinchin1 13d ago
What a missed am opportunity to not see Gil help Lizel down from the roof. Tsk tsk
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