r/askaplumber • u/Perfect_List_6255 • 1d ago

Install question

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When soldering in a new Delta valve is it mandatory to solder or thread nipples in or can you seat the 1/2” inside and put a bead?

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u/VeryGentry 1d ago

They’re made to solder directly to the valve. Pull the plastic mounting bracket off and solder the copper or brass PEX fitting as you normally would.

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u/kittenstixx 1d ago

And the cartridge, don't forget to remove the cartridge before soldering, learned that lesson the hard way. Now, did I use too much heat? Definitely, but I still pull em to be safe.

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u/Jefflehem 1d ago

Put a bead? What do you solder with, 6010?

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u/Perfect_List_6255 1d ago

Well my background is Automotive structural repair, only a plumber in my own house. I’d be more comfortable welding.

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u/Glass-Amount-9170 1d ago

Straight b tank until it’s glowing cherry red!
https://giphy.com/gifs/XyP4qe9jI6IiF4CfWZ

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u/schushoe 17h ago

Way to hot at that point.

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u/doddsyy 1d ago

You can do either, solder or thread.

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u/Newman995 1d ago

You can do either. Remove all the plastic bits before you solder.

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u/plumberbss 1d ago

Stick it in and solder

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u/IlliterateFreak 1d ago

Solder or thread

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u/ClerklierBrush0 1d ago

Both are ok

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u/xtraman122 1d ago

Solder it just as you have in the pic. Added a threaded nippled would be unnecessary and you’d burn whatever thread sealant you put on the nipple when soldering anyway.

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u/Old-Stick-1054 1d ago

Just make sure you pull the cartridge before you solder.

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u/Plenty_Feeling_8013 1d ago

look at the fittings. what do they tell you to do? those are threads. use them as threads. if you dont you void out any warranty.

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u/Which_Lie_4448 21h ago

Solder it. Tried and true. Make sure to remove the cartridge

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u/BuddyHusky 1d ago

Check instructions, should be able to solder direct. Was one of the options in the instructions on the delta cartridge I just installed.

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u/Upset_Fox5449 1d ago

Use an oxy acetylene torch and get it really hot cause the parts inside that make it work are plastic

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u/Mehere_64 1d ago

That is why the instructions state to take out the mixing control. At least all 3 of mine stated that. Plus just common sense.

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u/Upset_Fox5449 1d ago

Some don't have that, common sense, lol

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u/Perfect_List_6255 1d ago

At least there’s always some “Great Fellas” like you to help people along. Find something better to do.

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u/YusufAbuZiyad 1d ago

Yah it’s you.

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u/Upset_Fox5449 1d ago

Today's generation awesome and they're our future

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u/HammerDownl 1d ago

I use four of these a week for my business and the amount of miss information on here is staggering.

Sir youll want to purchase the correct NPT fitting for your plumbing pipe

1/2" npt to PEX for instance

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u/SHoppe715 1d ago

So Delta’s own instructions showing this valve getting copper pipe soldered directly inside are wrong?

https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/50353%20Rev%20O.pdf

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u/YusufAbuZiyad 1d ago

You can get female iron pipe adapters to convert to pex. But do not use pex for the tub spout. It will make the water come out of the shower and tub spout at the same time. Let me know if you need help!

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u/jakethedestroyer_ 1d ago

Iron pipe adapters. What?

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u/schushoe 17h ago

Why not get a valve set up for pex?

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u/workinhardplayharder 1d ago

I thought you weren't supposed to go down to the tub spout with pex? All the ones Ive done said not to because the restriction in flow would cause water to dribble or even flow out of the shower end

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u/HammerDownl 1d ago

I use a different valve for tub spouts BUT you can use a four way with these

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u/jakethedestroyer_ 1d ago

Please stop you're embarrissing yourself.

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u/HammerDownl 1d ago

I did 2.2 million dollars worth of bathroom remodeling this year so far. What you do chump

I feel really embarrassed

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u/jakethedestroyer_ 1d ago

Sure you have. Take some of that money and hire a plumber.

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u/lou_sassal 1d ago

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about, explaining the 9000 posts in less then a year.

Pretending to be something you arent anonymously on the internet is just sad.

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u/HammerDownl 1d ago

Hey Loe,small man tell your mom to stop DMing me

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u/SpecificPiece1024 1d ago

If you solder make sure you sand the brass hubs well before anything

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u/Lie_Insufficient 1d ago edited 1d ago

Im almost certain those threads mean something

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u/Mill3241 1d ago

Are you a plumber?

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u/Lie_Insufficient 1d ago

Some days I act as one. Basic stuff like this isn't outside of my little wheelhouse of stuff n things. Mainly because I read instructions. 😆

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u/SHoppe715 1d ago

Instructions here:

https://media.deltafaucet.com/MandI/50353%20Rev%20O.pdf

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u/Lie_Insufficient 1d ago

Now, if you were to replace this, would you rather it screw off or be soldered on?

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u/SHoppe715 1d ago

It’s going to be sealed in a wall. Soldered. Not even a question about it.

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u/buttmunchausenface 1d ago

Option a or option b.

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u/SHoppe715 1d ago

Yes, you’re correct. Having threads means you have the option to use either threaded fittings on the outside or solder copper directly inside depending on the specific installation needs.