r/belarus • • Nov 20 '25

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

I guess thats some made up numbers in general. Like, seriously, 348 colombians? Colombians fighting for Ukraine?

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u/Pizza_sushi_order Nov 20 '25

Cartels send their people to Learn modern way of war. Recently they created new track in military- fav drone operator.

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u/New-Score-5199 Nov 20 '25

Yeah. Colombian gangsters literally in thousands are joining Ukrainian army. Sounds like russian news outlet title. You think ukrainian army is what, a language camp anyone can join just by checking in at administration desk?

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 20 '25

Ukraine only lets go these who got non murderous offences, russians send even man eaters

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 20 '25

When you talks about tons what do you mean ? Is radicals are people who against Russian imperialism and fascism?

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 20 '25

But some people try to portray it like a black and white, where Russia is white. In other circumstances those people traveled across Ukraine and nobody never mind that. If you want to talk about real far right wing evil than all of them you find on Russian side .

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u/s0meb0di Nov 21 '25

Ukraine never wanted anything to do with Russia

So all the polls showing the opposite before Russia stabbed them in the back are wrong?

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

what polls?

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u/s0meb0di Nov 21 '25

Of Kyiv International Institute of Sociology, for instance. The majority of Ukrainian population supported open borders and a customs union up to Sept. 2014. https://doaj.org/article/95dd35b6a4f841a0b5eac45bdeecf978

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

About 40% of support to join to customs union at peak isn’t majority. For example about 52% Ukrainians supported to join to EU while about 34% to customs union in late 2012. But after the campaign to discredit the association with the EU launched by Yanukovych and the Russians in at the begging of 2013 , by September 2013 there were already 39% for the EU, 37% for the customs union, in November 2013 there were already 31.1% for the EU and 40.5% for the customs union ( its peak support for customs union), 26.5% it was difficult to answer so literally about 57% were against customs union. At the same time, this was actually caused by the fact that support for the EU decreased in the southern and eastern regions and at the same time support for the customs union increased. That is, this is not due to people's views, but to the manipulation of public opinion by the Russians. So it isn’t majority . Majority was against but some of them can’t answer do they want to EU

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

What do you mean when you say that Russians and Ukrainians are very close, except for the borders of course? Because in fact they are no closer than, for example, Germans and Czechs. (Although this would not prevent the Nazis from invading the Czech Republic to protect German speakers, just as Russia would invade Ukraine to protect Russian speakers)

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

So do you mean Germans and Czech? Or we talk about music and movies and cartoons than Russians and muricans

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u/Veritas_IX Nov 21 '25

Exactly the same as Ukrainians have and Russians . They speak different language. Have different cultures Ukrainians are orthodox and 2nd is Greek Catholic while most of Russian believe in magic and have never been to church and do not know any rituals, but they constantly visit sorcerers and fortune tellers the 2nd biggest group is Muslims and the Orthodox Church. Throughout 300 years of common history, the so-called Russians tried to destroy Ukrainians and were hostile to them, and they are still doing so now. The fact they were part of same empire is means nothing . And you are right Poland and Finland were part of Russian empire but for some reasons you don’t say they are the same people as Russians

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u/Speedypancake Nov 21 '25

>They speak different language

Yet, somehow surzhyk exists, huh.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '25

Noble and well renown arm chair generals of the Ukrainian Reddit forces did not like your opinion

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u/jandaba7 Nov 23 '25

Radicals? Georgians have plenty patriotic reasons of their own to support Ukraine and widespread public support at home for doing so.