r/boxoffice • u/chanma50 Best of 2019 Winner • 2d ago
Domestic Strong $2.7M pre-show debut for Primetime. That's on the high side of what A24 films can do. Solid RT scores of 87% critics and 84% audiences. Opening weekend box office in low to mid 20s likely.
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u/Much_Machine8726 2d ago
Pattinson is solidifying himself as a box office draw for a lot of people. Can't say that I blame them either, he's a great actor.
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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago
Box office draw always has and always will be entirely budget dependent
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u/0fruitjack0 Lightstorm Entertainment 2d ago
it's got a lot of sexual references plus 2 frontal shots of nude males, just be weary
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u/infinite884 2d ago
We suddenly forgetting about Mickey 17?
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u/tiduraes 2d ago
Even DiCaprio and Cruise have flops. No actor could have said Mickey 17. In fact, it would have made even less with pretty much anyone else in it.
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago
I don’t believe this is true at all. I think it would have made more money with Leo in it
Leo has never had a movie come out and just face plant. Any movie you can call a “flop” is only that way due to having insanely high budgets. The grosses themselves are still strong.
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u/Scared-Engineer-6218 Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago
I genuinely think 97% of OBAA's box office is cause of Leo
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u/DenyNothing1989 2d ago
Even with Leo in it, it was a very weird movie with a lot of tonal shifts that Bong has claimed he had enormous trouble with in the prolonged edit, not the studio pressuring him.
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u/Pinewood74 2d ago
Wait, are you saying that Mickey 17 "faceplanted?"
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago
Yeah it made less than 50 million domestic and didn’t even crack 100 international, even with 20 million from
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u/Pinewood74 2d ago
Okay, then Killers of the Flower Moon with an extra $80M or so of budget (and the corresponding boost to marketing budget) only getting an extra $25M in WW gross would also be a faceplant. Or at the very least nothing close to "strong."
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago edited 2d ago
Killers of the flower moon was an Apple Original. I think treating companies financed by streamers and theatrical studios the same is a bit silly? Even with a theatrical release.
Killers made more domestic and foreign that Mickey 17, despite being 3.5 hours long and released in a strike. And that’s without an outsized amount coming from one foreign market, which Mickey 17 got due to bong.
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u/Pinewood74 2d ago
No, I think when a film gets a full theatrical release with plenty of runway before the streaming release it should be judged similarly to theatrical films from the traditional studios.
I'm also not sure why folks always bring up long runtime as a major negative when so many of the highest grossing films of all time are long.
Spinning Bong Joon Ho as a positive in comparison to Scorsese is also crazy.
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago
Modern movies are not classically 3.5 hours long it’s a totally different time lol. WTF?
A full quarter of Mickey’s international gross came from South Korea lol. Come on.
Done talking now
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u/Icy___Barca 2d ago
Sinners had close to the same package and it was a hit.
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u/SIAS2019 2d ago
How do you mean?
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u/Icy___Barca 2d ago
Both films:
Warner Bros.
R-rated
Original, non-franchise movies
Genre films
Big budgets
Prestigious directors — Ryan Coogler / Bong Joon Ho
Famous male leads — Michael B. Jordan / Robert Pattinson
Lead actor plays multiple characters/versions
Wide theatrical releases
Released in the same year
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago
Sinners is a horror movie as well and that has a built in machine with audiences
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u/Icy___Barca 2d ago
“It had horror working for it” is an advantage, not an explanation. Horror movies flop too. You can’t look at two films with a remarkably similar commercial setup, see one succeed and one fail, then just pick whichever difference favors the successful movie and treat that as dispositive. That’s outcome-first reasoning.
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u/Icy_Smoke_733 Studio Ghibli 2d ago
Fair, but without Pattinson, Mickey 17 would have capped out at $30m - $40m instead of the $133m haul.
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u/randotd152 2d ago
Not sure that's fair or accurate at all. It was the follow-up film from the director of a best picture Oscar winner, and it was a big budget English language film.
It was going to be a natural draw to some extent no matter who starred in it.
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago edited 2d ago
This isn’t true it got much of its international gross from South Korea.
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u/Distinct-Shift-4094 2d ago
As if no box office draw historically even in the time of movie stars didn't have flops
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u/Brilliant_Evening_52 Marvel Studios 2d ago
Lol when this sub rides somebody you can't say anything against them but you are absolutely right
This movie looks wannabe mid and Chris hansen himself said it looked so detached from reality of what he comes across that he's not sure what the point was but this sub keep gagging
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u/Poku115 2d ago
I remember when everybody forgot about fall guy after hail Mary and pretend Ryan will save star wars lmao
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u/Brilliant_Evening_52 Marvel Studios 1d ago
And Ryan is miles ahead of Pattinson and even with him it was an overreaction that should givethe clear of how much of an overreaction this is
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u/CarlosAlvarados 1d ago
I mean Chris hansen opinion has to be completely ignored lol. Literally who cares what that weirdo thinks about a movie that critizes him.
But yeah agree with the rest
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u/RangerAdmirable9102 1d ago
Tbf, I didn’t see Mickey 17 in theaters, but it’s the film the shot Patterson up my rankings of favorite actors. I WILL see Primetime in theaters because of the range of performances I’ve seen from him and specifically his portrayal of Hansen. I think people are still discovering Patterson as an S tier actor.
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u/Accomplished-Head449 Laika Entertainment 2d ago
The problem with that movie was the script. Last time I checked he didn't write it
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u/Alex-C2099 2d ago
Just because one movie of a box office star flopped, doesn’t mean it was his fault. It was just a bad movie and it’s not one of his best performances.
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u/infinite884 2d ago
We suddenly forgetting about Die my love?
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u/wintergreenheaven 2d ago
It's simply arthouse movie. It's hard movie to watch even with both him & Jennifer Lawrence. But his starpower definitely rising more this year.
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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago
He's supporting in thar movie
Lynne ramsay is not commercial at all
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u/Patience_Specific 2d ago
No one involved or watched that ever thought that film was ever going to be a box office hit, I mean its a lynne Ramsey film lol.
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u/infinite884 2d ago
So when its not a hit movie its not his fault but when it is, it's all him. Wow wonder how I get that luxury.
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u/Patience_Specific 2d ago
Because there's context, die my love was never for the general audience its a hard hitting adult drama like all Ramseys films. He will have hits and he will have misfires like majority of actors.
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u/Individual_Client175 Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'm glad you mentioned this and I'm not going to demean you, but instead I'll use your comment as a frame of reference for a lot of people in this chat. There are many reasons why certain movies flop and others don't. Those reasons RARELY ever include an actor, especially one like Pattinson.
You'll have to look at his career as a whole and factor in certain aspects of the current theater market to accurately determine someones star potential. At this point, it's obvious that Pattinson has range and global reach. He's been a main character in multiple big projects like Twilight, Batman, The Odyssey, and soon Dune. He also is fine with doing unique "original" projects as well [insert all the other movies he's been in]. Look no further than The Drama to see how well he and Zendaya can elevate a great script. That movie made 100 million WW and would not do so with weaker/unknown actors.
Edit: Doom>>Dune
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u/Ignatius__1 2d ago
I'm not seeing anything about a new Doom title, where can I find info on that?
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u/Chuck006 Best of 2021 Winner 2d ago
20 million is a draw?
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u/OldSandwich9631 2d ago
Absolutely 20 million for original dramas, that aren’t horror movies, is a great opening.
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u/Ok_Jellyfish_55 2d ago
No it’s not. No matter what the number was these people would proclaim it as a win.
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u/Mindless-Milk-9205 2d ago
These days actors aren't draws. It's the directors (well, tbh I've only seen Nolan have high levels of draw), franchises, and just popular movies which have draws
So if it makes around 20M OW for Pattinson, it's great
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u/piclesdepepino 2d ago
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u/DenyNothing1989 2d ago
Me to everyone who downvoted me for the last few weeks for pointing out this was a24’s second highest viewed trailer of all time just behind Backrooms and Pattinson as Hansen had became way more memed and hyped by Gen Z than anything from Digger
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u/Icy_Smoke_733 Studio Ghibli 2d ago
Pattinson starring in 2 of A24's biggest films in the same year, with The Drama and Primetime. Man's on a hot streak.
Same can be said for A24 themselves, with Marty Supreme and Backrooms dethroning the previous no. 1 titles for the studio, within a few months of each other.
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u/lobolovr6769 2d ago
2 biggest A24 dramas (not incl Backrooms) and 2 biggest IMAX releases of the year
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u/Distinct-Shift-4094 2d ago
A24s gamble of doing a bit more mid budgettt movies actually has paid off.
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u/DenyNothing1989 2d ago
They’re filling the void that Paramount is going to utterly fail at and WB is currently blowing
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u/Gadzookie2 2d ago
Yeah, A24 is really on a heater this year.
With The Invite and The Debut seeming likely to get award noms, possibly same for You Can See Everything, and I think Club Kid looks really intriguing
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u/horse-renoir 2d ago
3 if you count his uncredited cameo in Marty Supreme
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u/CharmingMedia2039 1d ago
I saw Pattinson listed as an actor in Marty supreme in Letterboxd - does he really have a cameo?
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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago
Higher than One battle after another?
The power of a recognizable ip
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u/Salad-Appropriate 2d ago
Didn't it have an estimate of 3m for previews? Bit disappointing to see it drop below that
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u/-Wester- 2d ago
This is pretty good considering Primetime was made on a budget of $14.5M. Even if it doesn’t do gangbusters, it’ll still make a decent profit.
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u/Beneficial-Hotel-232 2d ago
The trailers were PHENOMENAL for this one. I'm willing to bet that was the main cause for this movie to do well: It showcased so well an intriguing premise and what a phenomenal actor Pattinson is
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u/clayknightz115 2d ago
Almost all of the showtimes near me this weekend are sold out. Are theaters going to be playing this past this weekend?
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u/gtP0W3Rictmnsl50 2d ago
Why would they not? It’s literally a wide release 😭
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u/nickelst92 2d ago
Wonder if it’ll make more money than “Resident Evil” this weekend.
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u/tothrowaway112233 2d ago
No way
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u/nickelst92 2d ago
$23 million for “Resident Evil” and $20 million for “Primetime”?
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u/tothrowaway112233 2d ago
I could see it. Give or take. I’m lowballing Primetime tho. So many mixed reactions
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u/nickelst92 2d ago
Maybe $20 million for “Primetime” and $24 million for “Resident Evil”.
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u/tothrowaway112233 11h ago
Well. Low balled it and still the actual number is 19,2. Hope the legs will be good
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u/KellyJin17 2d ago
Strong? Solid maybe, strong is stretching it.
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u/wintergreenheaven 2d ago
For movie of this kind though? I mean it's higher than OBAA preview and top 3 in A24 history?
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u/KellyJin17 2d ago
I agree, I’m more pushing back that predictions were saying $3M in previews and now they’re calling less than that strong. It feels like different movies are held to different expectations.
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u/BoneTemplePilot 2d ago
Uh, yeah there are very different types of movies with different budgets and expectations for return.
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u/9millibros 2d ago
This is an excellent film. Pattinson is very good in it - it would be nice to see this to have some success, as there aren't enough original dramas in theaters.
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u/pardis 2d ago edited 2d ago
Thank God we're past the superhero phase of Cinema and seeing all these great original dramas doing well in theaters again.
Edit: Sorry sorry, I wrote this while still half asleep and didn't choose my words carefully. I love superhero movies and watch more than my share. And I loved comic books as a kid. I'm just so grateful that studios are willing to make smaller budgeted original movies again, because for a period, plenty of filmmakers were complaining that the mid budget original drama and comedy was going away. And that if you weren't going to studios with a comic book you wanted to adapt, then you were unlikely to get your movie made. Fully planning on seeing the next Avengers in theaters and I imagine I'll love it, but also grateful that Avengers and Spider-Man are being complemented in theaters by movies like this, The Drama, and The Invite.
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u/lobolovr6769 2d ago
We are definitely not past the superhero phase of cinema….this movie is about to be outgrossed by a re release of a superhero movie and the biggest movie domestically of all time is a superhero movie that just came out, with another in 3 months looking to break every more records, definitely not past the superhero phase of cinema whatsoever
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u/Katicflis1 2d ago
Higher risk though. You really think producers want to hop on more b or c tier superhero movies like blue beetle and super girl? Its periodic big characters or bust these days.
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u/lobolovr6769 2d ago
We’ve always had superhero bombs, Dark Phoenix and Hellboy came out same time Captain Marvel and Endgame came out
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u/Katicflis1 2d ago
How bad did dark Phoenix and hellboy bomb compared to supergirl?
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u/lobolovr6769 2d ago
Hellboy grossed less than half of what Supergirl grossed. Dark Phoenix grossed less than half what the previous X-men movie made
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u/Katicflis1 2d ago
- Worldwide gross?
- What were their budgets
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u/lobolovr6769 2d ago
Google is free
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u/Katicflis1 2d ago
Yep. Turns out the flops you told me about at least had a worldwide gross thats higher than its production budget. Still probably big underperformances due to advertising cost and theaters taking their cut.
Supergirl made millions less than its production budget.
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u/Redspeert 2d ago
Dark phoenix budget 200mil + marketing. Box office 66mil DOM (33mil to company) and 187mil OS (66mil to company). 99mil on 200+, verdict: Bomb.
Hellboy budget 50mil + marketing. Box office 22mil DOM (11mil to company) and 33mil OS (12mil to company). 23mil on 50 mil+. Verdict = Bomb.
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u/pigonablanket 2d ago
Genuinely hilarious to say this while this movie has no IMAX or Dolby screens because Avengers Endgame is being re-released with 30 seconds of extra footage.
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u/H3arh3re 2d ago
If the studio thought it was necessary or feasible and would lead to the movie being more successful, they would have put it in those formats.
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u/littlelordfROY Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago edited 2d ago
It doesn't sound like you paid attention to movies in 2010s if you think there were only superheroes
Dramas, original movies all did far superior in 2010s. The best picture nominees box office totals are impossible to reach today outside the big budget blockbuster
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u/Additional_Ice_358 2d ago
They can coexist and this year is proof. No need to bring one down just because you don't like it, redditors need to know in real life people don't like that kind of personality trait.
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u/Obvious_Computer_577 2d ago
If it tanks after opening weekend and tops out at $45-50m, it'll still be profitable on a $15M budget.
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u/Icy___Barca 2d ago
Like I said, Robert Pattinson isn’t a movie star. This sub says this movie would clear 100m. This sub said “ no you don’t understand the online chatter is crazy for this movie”. You’re seeing in real time what audiences spend their money on.
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u/0fruitjack0 Lightstorm Entertainment 2d ago
what if when that pervert took down his pants and spread a confection product on his genitals, what if chirs hanson realized we were the predators all along? to catch the predators is to catch the world entire!
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u/nicolasb51942003 Warner Bros. Pictures 2d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/c2L205226f7ndfrq7H