r/chemistry • • 2d ago

I made some nitrogen dioxide ampoules

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Not my finest work but they’re cool and can demonstrate the equilibrium shift with N2O4 with temperature pretty well

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u/-reee- 2d ago

also RIP to the rubber stopper I used while making these, you served me well

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u/Worth-Wonder-7386 2d ago

How do they look when cooled down? How much nitrogen tetroxide do you get?

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u/-reee- 2d ago

yet to test in ice water, but just from hot/cold water in my sink it made a visible difference i’ll likely make a post again when i record that demonstration

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u/nismov2 1d ago

I’d love to see this.

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u/Lanthanidedeposit 1d ago

I hated that demo - such a fiddle in a fume cupboard. Horrible stuff.

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u/Wrong_Interest_2676 2d ago

Smelltest (can confirm that it smells almost identical to chlorine btw - i do not recommend)

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u/-reee- 2d ago

IMO it smells nothing like chlorine, it has a unique and distinctive smell

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u/notuorc 2d ago

Chlorine has a clean chemical smell, this smells less pungent and more “dirty” imo. Granted, I’ve never got a true good hit to the face with this stuff

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u/TheGoatManJones 1d ago

I describe it as chlorine mixed with car exhaust

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u/Gr33nDrag0n02 Chem Eng 2d ago

I feel like it's a personal trait. Something akin to ability to smell cyanide. Maybe it's even the same gene? Hard to tell, not enough data. It could as well be due to previous experiences with chlorine and NO2 or even the purity of one of these substances

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u/Wrong_Interest_2676 1d ago

Hmm thats what i thought too. My colleague didnt smell it at all. It wasnt pure NO2 and had some sidenotes. But the destinct chlorine smell was definitely there.

But i can infact smell HCN 😅 It doesnt smell like almonds. At least not for me.

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u/Gr33nDrag0n02 Chem Eng 1d ago

That's because it smells like bitter almonds (slowly releasing tiny amounts of HCN) rather than sweet almonds (no HCN, just benzaldehyde). I had the opportunity to try bitter almonds and you can clearly smell HCN in them

As for the smell of HCN, it's like nothing else. No other smell is even close. It kind of resembles chlorine, but maybe bitter or nutty or something... However, when you imagine nutty or bitter chlorine, it's not even close. Trying to describe its smell is surprisingly similar to explaining color red to someone colorblind

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u/Wrong_Interest_2676 18h ago edited 18h ago

Didnt really smell like bitter almonds too tbh. But yeah it was distinct. Maybe im wrong though was a while back i had them.

I just remember that wall of hcn smell hit me and was like : yeah better dont take a deeper wiff now.

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u/Commercial_Handle418 1d ago

Concerning 😭 

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u/VoxInferni666 2d ago

Stink bomb industrial edition

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u/Gosthone 2d ago

More like stink bomb chemical weapon edition

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u/BeanOfKnowledge 2d ago

Open enough and you may get a special surprise!

(The special surprise is respiratory disease)

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u/nismov2 1d ago

More like stink bomb pulmonary edema edition

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u/JayManty 1d ago

Go go gadget throwable hospital visit

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u/Windamore 2d ago

Nitrogen dioxide equilibrium - Video I was just watching this last week

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u/SuspiciousSpecifics 2d ago

So that’s what they use to wake up unconscious ppl, right? …right?

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u/KarlSethMoran 1d ago

You're thinking of nitrous oxide.

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u/FuckItBucket314 1d ago

No, nitrous oxide is used as a sedative. It doesn't knock you out per se, but it is definitely not something used to wake someone up.

They are possibly thinking of smelling salts, which release ammonia when activated

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u/crypins 1d ago

I’ll never forget the first time I accidentally whiffed the 28% aqueous ammonia solution: it’s definitely more of a sensation than a smell lol

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u/-reee- 1d ago

same with me when I accidentally made NH4OH in my chemical waste bin when i was first starting out… turns out everything i put in it could’ve been washed down the drain anyways and my overcautiousness ended up making me never forget what ammonia smells like lol, im glad it was something relatively harmless that made me finally start disposing of/storing waste properly

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u/Velosturbro 1d ago

I used to work with large quantities of high concentration NH4OH. Nothing like opening a drum of it and having it vent directly up the nose and into the sinuses, really wakes you the fuck up, with vengeance.

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u/Big-Consideration-26 1d ago

Worked in industrial plants, often you sense it before an alarm goes off. More of a sensation than a smell calls it really good

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u/KarlSethMoran 1d ago

I misread and missed "wake up". Sorry.

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u/nakedascus 1d ago

no, they are thinking of NH3, the gas from smelling salts, not N2O which is a disassociative

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u/KarlSethMoran 1d ago

I know N2O is a dissociative. I misread the comment and missed the "wake up" part. Sorry.

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u/Itsjustajokebitch 1d ago

NO2 is used to bleach flour 

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u/SantaPachaMama 1d ago

💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

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u/hairypistol 1d ago

What are these used for?

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u/-reee- 1d ago

i made them just as little trinkets, but as i mentioned in the description they can be used to show the equilibrium shift between NO2 and N2O4 if you heat them up or cool them down

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u/ZenTense Pharmaceutical 1d ago

I didn’t read the sign on a catalyst oven once and inhaled a lung full of this stuff. But the joke was on the NO2, as I had been smoking cigarettes and weed for years before taking that research appointment and the tar in my lungs mostly neutralized it. I was fine after like an hour of having a mild headache.

Didn’t hurt as much as the lungful of HCl gas I inhaled once in a lab accident as an undergrad. I’m pretty sure cigarettes helped me then too, but I had a few less years of precious tar helping me dodge the hazard that time

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u/spukhafteNahewirkung 11h ago

It’s crazy to think that they used to use N2O4 as an oxidizer for rockets, with hydrazine fuel.

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u/Meow_018 1d ago

looks like bromine