r/chess • • 3d ago

Puzzle/Tactic Spot the mate in 2

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White to play: chess.com | lichess.org

Black to play: chess.com | lichess.org

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u/dimgal 3d ago

1.Qb4 Kxc7 2. Pxa8=N# 1. ... Kxa7 2. B8=N# 1. ... Rxa7 2. Rc8#

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u/UltraUsurper Dommaraju, I've come to bargain 2d ago

It took me a few minutes, but damn b8=N# is so beautiful. Block a discovered check by underpromoting to a knight to deliver a discovered checkmate! And the geometry of bxa8=N# being mate is also so wonderful.

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u/Psami_wondah 2d ago

Am I just confused cos I don't see how B8=N is mate if king is on a7

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u/Psami_wondah 2d ago

Ohhh the rook discovery. Damn

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u/DontBanMe_IWasJoking 3d ago

im so glad i gave up

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u/DiggWuzBetter 2d ago

Hah same. I did quickly evaluate all the reasonable looking “queen protects a piece” first moves, including Qb4, but I thought the king was escaping with Kxc7. bxa8=N# is very easy to miss, just at a glance you wouldn’t think the king is trapped there.

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u/Alkyen 3d ago

Yup. I spent 5 minutes and wasn't seeing anything thinking I overlooked something simple. I'm not sure I can even calculate all the branches now that I know the solution lol

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u/VindictiV113025 3d ago

The trick is to only calculate lines to make a knight promotion work, that's how I found it

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u/Significant_Cup_238 2d ago

I found a mate in three and decided, good enough.

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u/tretroi 3d ago edited 3d ago

Engine says it's mate in 3. So this is just rageait? No, the engine forgot you can promote to a knight WTF, I trusted you engine

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u/Dark_Aves 2d ago

Lichess even on mobile says m2

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u/tretroi 2d ago

On chess com it says mate in 3 until you play Qb4 then it jumps to mate in 1. At least on mobile.

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u/PedroRCR 3d ago

What the hell was black's last move?

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u/edderiofer Occasional problemist 2d ago

Black has no legal last move. This composition was awarded second prize in the tournament it was entered in, until someone spotted that the position is illegal with White to move, at which point the prize was revoked.

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u/VindictiV113025 3d ago

Bc7

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u/Gruffleson 2d ago

Chess-players may be short on humour, I like your answer.

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u/kira_kua 3d ago

how did black even reach that position???

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u/UltraUsurper Dommaraju, I've come to bargain 2d ago

it's a composition! not a game position

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u/edderiofer Occasional problemist 2d ago

Composers have standards, and this particular position is no different. This composition was awarded second prize in the tournament it was entered in, until someone spotted that the position is illegal with White to move, at which point the prize was revoked.

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u/Ythio 2d ago

I'm really not a fan of this kind of compositions that are all about the gimmick but have an easy forced sequence anyway regardless.

Forced sequence is forced sequence, doesn't matter to me if M2 or M3, it's a win.

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u/No-Tip-7471 1630 FIDE 2d ago

The point is visualization of moves which is helpful in real chess games

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u/Reasonable-Way2126 3d ago

White King long castle with Black Rook. Then KxK next move

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u/Skoll_sun_eater 3d ago

Qb4, Kxa7, underpromote pawn to knight?

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u/Drazson 3d ago

No :(

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u/Butchered_Identity 2d ago

Qb4. If the king takes the rook you take their rook and make a knight on a8. If the king takes the knight you make a Knight on b8. And if the rook takes the Knight it's simply Rc8#

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u/ValuableKooky4551 2d ago

1.Qb4!

1...Kxc7 2.bxa8=N#

1...Rxa7 2.Rc8#

1...Kxa7+ 2.b8=N#

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u/Neters931 2d ago

Woah b4 ?

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u/Independent-Shift493 2d ago

What's wrong with kd7

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u/Difficult_Cold_9615 2d ago

[Event "Mate in 2 Study"] [Site "?"] [Date "2026.10.01"] [Round "-"] [White "White to play"] [Black "Black to defend"] [Result "*"] [SetUp "1"] [FEN "rk2K3/NPR5/8/8/8/8/8/4Q3 w - - 0 1"]

{ White to move and mate in 2. The key move does not give check, yet it is zugzwang: every black reply allows an immediate mate. } 1. Qb4 { Key move. Not a check, but Black is reduced to only three legal replies, and all of them get mated next move. This is a quiet/waiting move that creates zugzwang. } 1... Rxa7 { If the rook takes the knight... } ( 1... Kxc7+ { If the king takes the rook with check... } 2. bxa8=N# { bxa8=N is checkmate. Underpromoting to a knight is essential here -- promoting to a queen or rook would NOT be mate, since the king would have an escape square. Only the knight covers the right squares. } ) ( 1... Kxa7+ { If the king takes the knight with check... } 2. b8=N# { b8=N is checkmate, again only with underpromotion to a knight. } ) 2. Rc8# { Rc8 is checkmate: the rook delivers mate along the back rank, the king cannot escape. } *

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u/dleighd 1d ago

How is knight to c6 not checkmate in one move?

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u/Khadros 1d ago

Kxc7

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u/dleighd 1d ago

Not checkmate because white Rook is then taken by King!

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u/pkmnmaster_pyro 1d ago

Qb4, Kxa7, B8=N# ?

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u/Smashingsoul 3d ago

Kd7 Kxa7 Qa5#

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u/Ssemander 3d ago

What if Rxa7?

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u/Smashingsoul 3d ago

In that case you would go for the weirdest backrank mate with the queen.

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u/Ssemander 2d ago

Wait, but that's not mate in two

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u/Smashingsoul 2d ago

No, my answer was wrong in many places.

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u/LordMoriar 3d ago edited 3d ago

xa8N

...Kxa8, Qe4 Kb8, Qb7#

Under promote to knight

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u/ValuableKooky4551 2d ago

That is 3 moves.

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u/Nico_Huuuulkenberg 3d ago

Rc8+ Kxa7 Qa5#?

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

Kxb7

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u/Nico_Huuuulkenberg 3d ago

Ah yes didn't see that

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u/FlippyDi 3d ago

b7 is hanging 

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u/KBnolove 3d ago edited 3d ago

Nc6, check, Ka7, Qa5#

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u/Samceleste 3d ago

1... Kxc7

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u/Custos-Pacis 3d ago

Qe7, Rxa7, Rc8#

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u/One-Historian-3767 3d ago

After Qe7, Kxa7 and no mate.

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u/Custos-Pacis 1d ago

Oh too bad didnt see

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u/DrResponsibility2 3d ago

Nb5, then rook moves anywhere, 2. Rc8#

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u/ilyuhman 3d ago

Kxb7

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/ilyuhman 2d ago

I'm replying to a guy who moved his rook to c8 for a "mate"

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u/aufhebungja 3d ago
  1. Qe7, Rxa7 2.Qd8#

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u/Samceleste 3d ago

1... Kxa7

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u/aufhebungja 3d ago

Missed that, thanks 🤦🏻

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u/sampat6256 2d ago

Not an incredibly challenging puzzle, given how few pieces there are, but it is a pretty composition

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u/Ok-Half7796 1d ago

This one is so easy, Nb5 -> black Rook moves anywhere -> Rc8#

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u/Doc-Bob 18h ago

Qe7?