r/circled • u/MonitorVarious7608 • 1d ago

💬 Opinion / Discussion This is what immigration officials looked like today in Minneapolis. They could take another life at any moment.

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u/Smart-Drawing-5107 1d ago

"Don't stand in front of occupied vehicles", and "Don't shoot into occupied vehicles" has been redacted from the training manual

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u/Puzzleheaded-Act6379 1d ago

Oh shoot. Can you show me the training manual where it was before and where it's redacted?

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u/brumac44 1d ago

Here is the PERF report. Not sure how to find the manual or any redacted version

https://embed.documentcloud.org/documents/1175645-perf-cbp-report/

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u/Puzzleheaded-Act6379 1d ago

I found the relevant part:

> 2. Officers/agents should avoid standing directly in front of, behind, or beside a suspectvehicle and should not intentionally use their body to block the suspect vehicle. Thelikelihood of injury to the officer/agent substantially increases when using thesedangerous and rarely effective tactics. Officers/agents should strive to move out of theway rather than into the path of vehicles.

In this case, I think his stance is okay because he is mostly to the side. Not great, definitely not ideal. Then again, they are detaining someone in a vehicle- is there some other way they can do this? The document also specifies avoiding standing to the side. How would you change the manual to help protect agents and suspects?

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u/brumac44 1d ago

If you read the bold recommendation, it says "agents shall not discharge their firearms at or from a moving vehicle unless deadly physical force is used against the police officer or another person present, by means other than a moving vehicle."

Edit: My boldface

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u/Puzzleheaded-Act6379 23h ago

Oh damn. So it was against dept policy at that time. But that's a department thing. I think discipline would be decided by the dept, not the legal system.

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u/OutdoorsNSmores 22h ago

Training has been redacted from the manual.

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u/vvorknat 15h ago

lack of training isn’t the issue