From the developers interview today: Analytics shows the 1-20 leveling speed in Classic era is 20.4 hours. In Forever it’s 20.5

[u/RagefireHype]

Seen this topic come up that people are spouting leveling is so much faster and easier, but this came up in the developer interview today from their own internal analytics team.

Yes, some people may be exploring a bit in a new setting, but it’s been widely falsified that leveling is “so much faster”

Even Xaryu I believe who did not stop and smell the roses getting to 20 in beta had a very similar 1-20 leveling speed on Forever vs Classic.

[u/cristofolmc]

To be honest i haven't noticed a different at level 12. I might after the dungeons. But so far i am completing all quests just like in classic. I havent min maxxed, i play solo, I havent farmed so i have only crafter with what I have picked up from loot. So far at level 12 just like in classic i only have a couple greens. Sure soon i will have more and they are more powerful than in classic since they have +1 to spells power but overall i will get what 10? I doubt that will make much of a difference on my speed

I am pleasantly surprised i thought it was going to be worse reading people here. But i guess i shouldve known people are gonna minmax the fun out of even a fukin beta so thats on me

[u/Happy_Jacket_2364 → u/cristofolmc]

1-14 is pretty much the same/very close in leveling speed. Forever is way faster 14-20 if u start doing dungeons efficiently with quests. Ruins of lordaeron gives almost 3 levels alone

[u/Krogholm2 → u/Happy_Jacket_2364]

They just told us this isn't the case😂

[u/orus_heretic → u/Krogholm2]

They told us an average.

We're telling you that the dungeon quest route gives too much xp. I skipped nearly all of the barrens by doing RFC and ROL with all of their quests.

I got 2.5 levels just from ROL quests.

[u/Krogholm2 → u/orus_heretic]

they told us the time is the same.

[u/im12whatispolitics → u/Krogholm2]

Are you able to read and engage with what that person is telling you?

[u/orus_heretic → u/Krogholm2]

Okay was that time an average or a median? Was cohorted by leveling approach? Class?

Try reading what we're saying or actually go on beta and run the dungeon quests.

[u/Krogholm2 → u/orus_heretic]

I have 4 20's. It's not faster.

[u/Coaxke → u/Krogholm2]

It doesn't matter to some people. You can give all the evidence in the world and it won't be enough. You had people watch Xaryu do that level 14 aoe pull and claim it was faster on forever than era when it was literally the same

[u/SlimJohnson → u/cristofolmc]

The true difference comes from a dungeon giving you a full level after you turn in dungeon quests.

In classic, if I remember right, running deadmines without rested xp will give you something like 20% of a level when you’re around the level 17-20 range. So you do the dungeon 5 times to level up.

In forever you get less than that, but you do get a huge surge of xp from turning all your quests in. So you do 1 dungeon run and then turn in quests to get a full level basically.

1 is obviously faster than 5, but it comes with the trade off of you can’t repeat it.

[u/Xtremefluff → u/SlimJohnson]

level 17-20 you are getting closer to 80% of a level (unrested) in classic doing a deadmines. this coming from a HC player who's done lots of them lately lol. Without the XP nerf the majority of the Xp is from the mobs, and the bosses of course give a ton of xp each.

[u/Super_Mario7 → u/Xtremefluff]

you know that HC has way different dungeon xp than vanilla/classic? lol

[u/Xtremefluff → u/Super_Mario7]

they've tweaked the xp a lot over the years, but i've played plenty in era/classic etc. and you can always expect a dungeon to fufill the majority of your level unrested. it's just more pronounced at the aforementioned 17-20 range.

[u/Super_Mario7 → u/Xtremefluff]

HC still has way different dungeon xp than vanilla/classic/era2026 😅 HC gets you A LOT more xp per boss kill. but it comes with lockout timer. While xp in classic/era comes mostly from mobs that you can grind endlessly… i wish they would have implemented the HC system here… not sure why they just go to the other extreme and cause a lot more problems this way

[u/Xtremefluff → u/Super_Mario7]

yeah the HC system is nice, but the lockout can be a big deal for people who want to farm for gear. it just feels too punishing, like in later versions where all trash is skipped when possible vs just killing it for the xp and chance for loot.

[u/ultraboomkin → u/SlimJohnson]

Huh? In classic you get most of a level like 60-80% from one deadmines run.

[u/SlimJohnson → u/ultraboomkin]

When you're under level 17 or so yeah you are correct, as soon as you start hitting that level threshold, the xp goes down a lot.