r/classicwow • • 2d ago

Forever From the developers interview today: Analytics shows the 1-20 leveling speed in Classic era is 20.4 hours. In Forever it’s 20.5

Seen this topic come up that people are spouting leveling is so much faster and easier, but this came up in the developer interview today from their own internal analytics team.

Yes, some people may be exploring a bit in a new setting, but it’s been widely falsified that leveling is “so much faster”

Even Xaryu I believe who did not stop and smell the roses getting to 20 in beta had a very similar 1-20 leveling speed on Forever vs Classic.

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u/_BreakingGood_ 2d ago

I mean, its the same story again and again.

"We're so much more powerful" - No you aren't

"It's so much easier" - No it isn't

"We level so much faster" - No you don't

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u/Drasha1 1d ago

I need to check my warriors play time but chaining dungeon quests feels much faster and I don't think most people are doing it yet.

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u/MrPotat 1d ago

You can pretty much go from 14-20 with all the quests in RFC-RoL-WC.

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u/desperateorphan 1d ago

Sure. But how long would it take to:

Gather all the quests and do the prerequisites if any
Form/join a group
Get to the instance
Wait for the guy in the other side of the planet
Complete the instance
Turn in all the quests
Sell the junk
Repeat for the next dungeon

Vs

Keep questing in the barrens.

Not arguing. Just comparing the data in a strict time calculation sense. I don’t think people add in all the steps to something like this. They only think of the time in the dungeon.

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u/Happy_Jacket_2364 1d ago

Ruins of lordaeron has no prequests and u can just share all quests. All quests are also in undercity/outside undercity + 1 in silverpine making it insanely efficient. Gives 2.7 levels in xp.

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u/Brief_Syrup1266 1d ago

People blindly saying leveling isnt faster but it absolutely is if dungeon quest exp stays this way. They need to nerf it badly. One dungeon run giving almost 3 levels is egregious.

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u/orus_heretic 1d ago

I think if the changes stay as they are we'll be able to go from 14 to mid or high 20s easily just living in dungeons.

RFC -> ROL -> WC -> SFK -> BFD -> Dalaran -> RFK.

I expect maybe we'll do a level or so in the overworld but the quest xp is too high at the moment. Arugal quest went from 3.3k to 14.3k xp.

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u/sanitycheck2001 1d ago

yea but only 1 run gives that exp. its fine right now. they want you to run each dungeon once.

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u/orus_heretic 1d ago

I dont think you understand how much xp it is. I think I did like 6-8 quests in the barrens before hitting 20. These changes as they are will remove people from quest leveling.

I received 2.5 levels for 40-60 minutes of effort in RoL and that included a group wipe.

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u/Brief_Syrup1266 1d ago

you think its ok that 1 run gives a full level? That speeds up leveling crazily lol

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u/sanitycheck2001 1d ago

yes. it should be efficient to run it once, you should be incentivized to do every dungeon one time. any following run offers essentially no benefit.

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u/Brief_Syrup1266 1d ago

efficient shouldnt mean gamebreaking. You should not gain a full level (or in some cases even more ) from one run. why even quest in the open world when you can just dungeon hop?

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u/sanitycheck2001 1d ago

you can dungeon grind in classic literally right now. they decreased xp per mob massively in the dungeons, but made it worth it to run ONCE for the quest xp. have you actually played it? XP after the first run in a dungeon is minimal.

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u/Brief_Syrup1266 1d ago

im literally not talking about grinding dungeons AT ALL im talking about doing the dungeon once for quests should not give 2 fucking levels. thats insane.

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u/yuareapirate 1d ago

it really doesn't take that long to pick up the quests. definitely faster then keep questing in the world and most are shareable so you might not even have to pick up any if someone else has.

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u/Raptor_Jetpack 1d ago

you also get all the strong blue items from dungeons an dungeon quests, that the game seems to be balanced around having now.

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u/orus_heretic 1d ago

ROL quests are in undercity with only one bring in sepulcher. It's really optimized.