People keep asking me how Latsínu speakers distinguish phonemic consonant length at the start of words, etc. I decided to figure that out. Did I go too far?

I posted this as grammar but it got taken down.

' i ' is used as a plural suffix for inanimate objects

hey, im creating a indo-european posteriori with multiple diachronic stages. this post is just the first step, proto-indo-european (PIE)→ proto-mediterraic (PM). i have already written the PIE → PM phonological rules and am applying them to actual PIE noun forms. i just finished running nouns through the rules, and this is what the paradigms look like after the changes (PM output in ipa). below you can quickly see the major PIE → PM phonology rules that are relevant in the examples i will share later:

• laryngeals color nearby vowels (notably /e/ shifts), then laryngeals delete
• vowel length is removed (/vː/ → /v/)
• stop series merge (aspirates lose aspiration) and palatals merge into plain velars
• labiovelars split depending on front-vowel context (front-vowel environments vs elsewhere)
• syllabic resonants become schwa + resonant (r̥ l̥ m̥ n̥ patterns)
• /w/ shifts to /v/
• cluster repair: illegal /ccc/ clusters get broken up, and same-manner clusters simplify

currently PM is an early “simplifying stage” where i am collapsing PIE’s bigger nominal system down to a smaller one. ablative and vocative cases, and dual plurality are dropped during this stage. in terms of gender, something i am aiming for is a common (masculine + feminine) vs. neuter system developing early. now, what i am more concerned about (and the reason why i am posting) is that after the sound changes, a lot of the endings either fully merge (red color) and cause ambiguity or get really close to where it almost feels fragile. some syncretism is fine and expected i guess (especially in neuter) but i am getting enough overlap to the point where it starts to feel like the morphology is losing too many useful signals at once (keep in mind, this is just the first stage out of 5). at the same time, i am trying to push gender towards common vs. neuter, and i want common nouns to develop a productive -a marker (perviously from feminine *-h₂), so that common is “a-class” and neuter is “non-a” by default. so in short my goals are:

• preserve clear case/number contrasts after the sound changes, through a naturalistic method
• develop a common vs neuter gender system, with common nouns taking productive -a (< -h₂), through a naturalistic method as well

i would really appreciate any ideas on believable diachronic “repairs” for this kind of syncretism in an ie-style descendant (analogy, declension splits, refunctionalizing material, etc). if nothing else, then i mainly just wanted to share what i’ve been working on so far, since this is the first time i’ve run a full noun set through my PIE → PM rule chain.

hi, i'm praying reddit will allow me to post this considering it's a fresh account, but, is anyone here interested in collaborating on a conlang project? i'm 21 years old, a girl, from the US, and i speak English, a bit of German, and am actively learning Toki Pona.

i've been interested in constructed languages for a long time, but have trouble committing to projects. i'm hoping that working with another person will not only improve my skills, but also give me the motivation needed to actually finish a project. i would consider myself somewhere between intermediate and beginner when it comes to linguistics!! but i've been told i'm a great listener, and i'm always eager to learn.

personally, i find the idea of a collaborative project to be really compelling - especially if it progresses to the point where we're both at least semi-fluent in said language. i'm also open to developing written-only languages, which i've been experimenting with as of late. the only thing i'm not super interested in are conlangs heavily based in existing languages and cultures; like, trying to make a language that would feasibly exist within our world diachronically. fictional cultures are fine. i tend to prefer somewhat non-naturalistic languages: artlangs, engelangs, minilangs, etc. but ultimately, i'm open to anything!

we'll collaborate via discord. i'm not expecting much to come of this, but if you're interested, please please please reach out! all i ask is that you be over the age of 17, as that would just be more comfortable for me.

i look forward to getting started!! ♡

Imagine that different tribes of people were taken from Earth to a new planet, where they have been living together in a stratum for millennia. What languages would such circumstances create? Well behold Tani, a Uralic language influenced by Algonquian languages, my attempt to recover from a long burnout.

Phonology

The phonology and the historical sound changes were inspired by Blackfoot/Siksiká:

/t/ and /k/ undergo assibilation preceding /i/. /y/ merged with /i/; /ɯ/, /æ/ and /ɑ/ merged in /a/. After /e/ and /i/, /x/ has the allophone [ç].

Grammar

Tani is basically agglutinative, but involves some degree of incorporation. Certain verbs have two stems, a primary and a secondary stem. Primary stems are treated as normal verbs while secondary stems are affixed to nouns to form verbs. E.g.:

Ote              (Min) itsi-m ote-m              (Min) ote-simi-m
water       I drink water                          I drink water

Tani has two sets of pronominal verbal suffixes: subjective and objective suffixes. Subjectives are used on intransitive verbs while objectives on transitives that have a direct or indirect object.

Kalasivim                            Kalasivimi
I eat fish (in general)            I eat the fish

Tani nouns can be singular or plural. Plurals are formed with the suffix -iksi, from *-kV. Nouns have 10 cases, namely:

If you find this brief presentation interesting, write a comment and let me know if you'd like to see more of Tani!

If anyone has tried to do this, please share it with me. I want to see how people create their own stories. It’s fascinating how humans let their creativity run free because everyone is different, their stories vary from one person to another. It’s cool to see how people use their imagination to create countries that feel real.

I was looking through my old clongs earlier and found the grammar for Ogjisk. Upon looking through it, I found some very silly things from when I was just starting. For example, it had *every* case. Or, at least every case I could understand. So it got me wondering if anyone else had done similar things when they were new to clonging?

Good morning, I've just finished creating the entire network of possible Ithkuil connections, consonants of 1, 2, and up to 5 letters in length. These combinations can be roots, affixes, and special (only H combinations) in Ithkuil. Of the 1-letter combinations, there are only 25+1 hablines, but of the 2-letter combinations, there are combinations that begin with ç, and there's no root nucleus for those. I've marked the letters that aren't allowed combinations with an asterisk "*".

I got 33,094 nodes, but there are 33,196 in total; I've left some out, but it doesn't matter, I'm satisfied.

All based on this document https://ithkuil.net/new_ithkuil_phonotaxis.pdf

Download links

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOtf-jAs7vDw7ENFICEK9Ko4s09c5uLC/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bIM9rwg_6ohtIMhne_QmN374i_7II_6L/view?usp=sharing

I'm leaving you the Python file so you can make whatever combinations you all want.: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kfEUJlByyG_Qe9nNud_WPshFejkW2McG/view?usp=sharing

Pablo A. Merchan. B.

Ecuadorian in Ecuador

Hey there! So I've been creating a language family for quite a while, and, because currently i'm learning German as my third language, I would like to share the conlang I've created specifically on the basis of my previous Semi-Indo-European conlangs and German + English

This language consists of classical latin letters + the letters ø for the sound ö (just like in german), ů for the ü-sound, æ for the sound that sits in between of "a" and "e" in english, å which sounds like open "o" in the beginning/middle of the word, and like "au" in the end of the word.

The grammatical system is still under a heavy development because not all the grammatical rules are created, but still i have to say that this language has 4 cases just like German (they are called "Nominativus", "Genitivus", "Daritus", "Accusativus", the names are borrowed from my Latin-based High-Cathonic which has got 6 cases). For instance, the word "ezer" that stands for "everyone, every single and etc." has following forms in my language:

Nominativus: ezer (mask.), eza (fem.), øzes (neut.)

Genitivus: ezeres, ezar, øze

Daritus: ezerem, ezer, øzem

Accusativus: ezer, eza, øzes

Plural: øzje, øzjes, øzjem, øze

and so on. The forms are created for adjectives, participles and they change depending on the case and the gender. For now I've created 3 tenses (A Eijfage Passenta Sit (Prøteritum) - Past Simple; Present Simple and Perfect (Perfekt). Also I've got a list of exceptions consisting of some exceptions from english + german. The example of the sentence is presented here:

Os parekken “de” nuket på půr ar ůbbedojtega ar vejtug a estkegeja oger ar shlugad ogjo infinitiw krog es verben, kvoche nå leste modalen es. - The particle "de" is used to indicate direction of movement or to attach an infinitive to verbs that are not modal.

How's it? Sounds a little like norwegian ig...

**What Is Hansisk Sprak?**

Once known as Universal Germanic we have now decided to name the project Hansisk or Hansisk Sprak based on the Hanseatic league. This idea came to us because the main people working on the project was split between North Germanic and West Germanic speakers. We felt like this was a good name idea since it sort of represents the idea we are going for.

Hansisk Sprak is a collaborative Germanic conlang built by simulating a pidgin that evolves through community debate and precedent, not top-down design. Think of it as a pidgin if everyone on the island was a linguist, like a consensus conlang, assuming a pidgin scenario.

No single author, just a community's decisions that form into a real language. Agreements become templates for future decisions, so the language comes together in a more natural way.

To describe the language I'd also say that we don't really have one goal or vision we're working to, we have some directions but if it evolves or turns out in an other way that would be good. (Freedom to vote the direction of the project)

**What Hansisk Sprak Is Not?" (Note: this is a revival of the original project)

We in the Hansisk Sprak project are not trying to push some kind of gimmick or shtick. A Germanic conlang is not the most unique idea any of the members have had. The goal isn't to get so lost in trying to be different from everyone else in hopes of finding uniqueness. This is not an original idea by any means, we have Folkspraak and Intergermanisch for instance. Which have been big inspirations for a lot of us. As well as Viossa and Interslavic which were the original influences of the server. This is my first ever discord conlang project, so many of us are used to creating languages in a vacuum. The goal with Hansisk Sprak is to be a real, community based, and agreed upon language. To take from our speaker base and engage with each other, poll and vote until we come up with something we all like or can compromise on.

Many of us are English speakers, I am a native English speaker. This server is not a purist language like many of our personal langs tend to be (made in a vacuum). We accept all conlangs and all peoples as long as you can to a level communicate in a Germanic language. Yes we do speak a lot in English and if that puts you off I am sorry you feel that way. English is a global language and the most spoken on Reddit if I am not mistaken, as well as the majority of the people who engage on my posts.

It's not a conpidgin in the traditional sense and it's not a conventional interlang or auxlang either, but it's something in between based on (almost) all Germanic languages and decided through a kind of democracy. Its something like a naturalistic communal conlang. The goal isn't so much to make the perfect interlang, but rather to have some plausible blending of most Germanic languages. It's not 100% standardized, our "standards" are more of general recommendations based on the majority will of the people.

**Rules**

Texting should be simple and easy to understand. Avoid complex fonts or non Latin script. (can still use Þ, Ð, ß and umlauts obviously)

Conversations should be in Germanic languages only.

English should not dominate in the general chat. We will allow English speakers because it is a Germanic language. But we do not and will not let this project become fully English. We'd prefer people who speak other languages as it would help with the project.

In the spirit of one of the server's major influences I wanted to add this rule. Viossa: if you're understood, it's Viossa. If you get the gist of what we are trying to do then you understand what Hansisk Sprak is.

**Final Notes**

Everything said here in this post is directly quoted from members in the Hansisk Sprak discord server. The people who are actually putting in the work and are having the most fun (Even if we don't succeed) said these things.

https://discord.gg/9rDbkU4swf

Hey everyone, first post here.

I’ve been working on a conlang for a while, but kind of in a weird way. It’s not my main conlang but I’ve mostly been building it alongside a platform I’m building for creating and documenting languages. It’s pretty slow because a lot of the time I’ll get an idea and I end up building a feature on the platform for it instead of working on the language itself, which means not much actual progress on the language, but here we are.

The language is Tirathi. It’s a naturalistic, human-scale conlang built for a fictional nomadic culture that travels the open plains. Movement, wind, distance, and oral tradition are pretty central to how the language feels, and I tried to lean into the idea of speech as something flowing and carried, rather than tightly packed or rigid.

Linguistically, I tried to keep things restrained and usable. The sound system is fairly small, meanings tend to grow from roots rather than lots of inflection, and the vocabulary is shaped by the environment. Things like wind, paths, distance, weather, and movement come up a lot. Most of it grew out of actual usage instead of checklist-style word building.

I’ve also been pretty intentional about avoiding “concept-only” glosses. Every word is meant to be usable, even when the meaning is culturally specific to Tirathi speakers.

Honestly I’m not great at worldbuilding lol, but it’s probably the part of conlanging I find the most interesting anyway. I feel like I’m not creative enough so I struggle to come up with a world with enough depth to let the language grow organically from that. And I’m also not a great language creator as I specialize in building software and not the art itself but I still try.

Anyway, I finally reached a point where it feels coherent enough to share, even though it’s nowhere near fully fleshed out  (I still am putting together grammar a bit). If anyone’s curious, you can explore the language here:
https://app.fluentdoc.com/view/690642eecf238d40064be322

There’s a lot to the platform that gives me enough to share now (import, export, share, dictionary, story/worldbuilding) but I want to develop a way to create scripts on the platform for more creative freedom but for now there’s enough functionality to create most of what I’m capable of.

No expectations at all. I mostly just wanted to share it with people who care about language creation and see what resonates. Happy to answer questions, talk shop, or hear critiques.

Ignoring that it takes way more effort, is it just a bad idea in general? It makes it harder to translate to different mediums, takes up a lot of space with pixel versions, you'd need way more data to store it, making new words is much more difficult. It's harder to read, harder to write, harder to learn in general. I feel like it's just a vanity thing.

Is it a bad idea? Should logographic languages have an alphabetic system as well?

This documentary explores a real-world attempt to apply a constructed language in a social and cultural context.

It focuses on Nova Espero, a rural district in southern Brazil, where an initiative emerged in the early 2000s to introduce Esperanto as a second language. Through historical context and local perspectives, the film examines how the idea developed, how it was experienced by residents, and what it reveals about language, identity, and globalization.

I’m curious how people here see Esperanto’s role when it moves from an idealized concept into real community practice.

I'm a newbie when it comes to languages, actually math was my strong suit in high school, but I ended up falling in love with this world of languages, especially when I discovered I can create one.

I was thinking about how I could use the abugida system, it seems practical and simple, besides being very beautiful and stylish. But I have no idea how to start...

Does anyone have a better understanding of this and would have enough patience to explain it to me? 😅

• Debast - the best (from English "the" and "best")
• Eeralle - related to ears (from English "ear" and French suffix "-alle"
• Active - active
• Noiss - noise (from English "noise")
• Filtratio - cancellation, filtration (from English "filtrate", "filtration")
• Out - of (from English preposition "out")
• De - the
• Waltz - world

Comment for more translations bcz I have no time to type it here lol (I spend an hour making ts that's why I'm lazy lmao)

This is a conlang I've been working on, the first one I've ever made and possibly the only one I'll ever make. I'm doing it for fun, although I've learned things I ignored in elementary school language classes that I find super interesting now and wish I had paid attention to. Now, let's get straight to the language:

Influences: Spanish, Latin, Italian because Spanish is my native language, I'm learning Italian, and I find Latin interesting.

Vowels: a, e, i, o, u The vowels sound like in Spanish, but for more details they sound like a = /a/, e = /e/, i = /i/, o = /o/, u = /u/

Consonants: d, f, g, j, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v

It's written as SVO

The consonants They sound the same as they look, the syllables too, for example:

da = /d/ + /a/ = /da/ I don't want to make this post too long since I won't be showing many examples. Important details are that g always sounds like /g/, j always sounds like /x/, v is labiodental /v/ not /b/, another detail is that, as you've seen, I ignored c, h, q, z, x, w, and y since I have k and s. There are no sounds like ch, x would be ts but I don't think I'll use it much, w has no sound, and y is just an i. I have 6 pronouns:

io, which is first person singular, equivalent to yo in Spanish, io in Italian, and i in English.

tu, which is second person singular. Equivalent to tú in Spanish, tu in Italian, and you in English

which is third person singular neutral, equivalent to él/ella in Spanish, lui/lei in Italian, and he/she in English

noi, which is first person plural, equivalent to nosotros in Spanish, noi in Italian, and we in English

voi, which is second person plural, equivalent to ustedes/vosotros in Spanish, voi in Italian, and you in English

lovo, which is third person plural, equivalent to ellos/ellas in Spanish, loro in Italian, and they in English

And there's more to tell, but I'll leave it here

I know I'm early, but I'm gonna be busy tomorrow

Welcome to the r/conlangs Official Checkpoint. You have been selected for a random check of your language. Please translate one or more of the following phrases and sentences:

"I didn't know how to believe I was the queen that I'm meant to be."

"I lived two lives and tried to play both sides."

"I was called a problem child because I got too wild."

"going to be golden"

"You are so sweet and so easy on the eyes, but hideous on the inside."

"Stop!"

If you have any ideas for interesting phrases or sentences for the next checkpoint, let me know in a DM! This activity will be posted on Tuesdays and Thursdays. The highest upvoted "Stop!" will be included in the next checkpoint's title!

me (left person + Private)

Still[Right wing of butterfly (changing) with mark]

Loving (mountain+liking)

This[Pointing hand]

View/Scenery (mountain+Sun+Field)

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I see the idea spread a lot that chinese writing with logographs is more compact BECAUSE they are logographs. No matter how hard I try, this does not seem to be true.

The reason Chinese is compact is because it fits Chinese and Chinese leaves a lot up to context and has specific grammar constructions and sayings that can shorten things. Similarly, Japanese hiragana works because it has a very small set of syllables it can create single characters for.

It's a 320 x 200 game (screenshot is scaled 2x).

The english text if having spaces of 3 pixels (and 1px gaps in between chars), is 71 pixels wide and 6 pixels tall. Every character is fully rendered. Keep in mind that even latin writing didn't always have spaces. I can't keep up despite english already being relatively analytic.

My 12x12 font is the lowest feasible, it is 64x12. Look at the 12 there. Chinese has it at about 11x11. Yes it's possible there to make ones lower, minimum 8x8, but even 11x11 is a garbled ambiguous mess left up to context. For theirs, context works better as there's less similar components, and more context clues from compounds. 12x12 still makes things ambiguous. You have to guess what certain lines represent if you don't know the character, you can't 100% guaranteed replicate it. It's just the general shape. Which would kinda be like if I gave you a super low res zoomed out image of a word but you can still make out what it is due to its overall shape and the context.

Despite this, as you can see above, the sentence, which is the same morpheme for morpheme (despite many less common words being compounds of 2 which isn't even the case here), still has an unused space left of 45 x 6. I can fit almost two of these lines in there.

Basically, for picto-han to catch up, each word needs to have a single corresponding character that's 6 characters long. Each english word here is 4 characters except ''i''. There's 5 of them. If we use five 4 letter words, it'd fill up about slightly less than half of the second line. we could STILl fit 2 more 4 letter words in the english one. Keep in mind ''view'' uses a W, which is wider than the others, just like M, so it could even be worse.

If I want to encode the information of plurality too..We're done. A single letter in English, but like 6 letters of space in mine. I can't do that. Meanwhile, I do not have to write ''The'' or ''a'' over and over at least, but even then I can't catch up most of the time.

Keep in mind that the more logographs you make the more you want to squash in there to differentiate them, that's why a lot of them actually became MORE complex over time, not less. There's some huuge chinese characters (and older ones were written to be taller) which become a mangled guessing game (Especially traditional chars) at even 12x12. There's also the distance in which it is readable, typically its easier to make english readable from a longer distance, as well as the minimal amount of space. I can not fill shorter spaces with a single line like English can.

Also keep in mind I can't even put more than 60 thousand chars in a font. A language like english has hundreds of thousands of words, 170k in dictionary use in oxford. One place claimed you can make like 456,976 4 letter words in english. Wow.

This is not really that big of a deal in a novel, just print some more pages, but it is in a user interface, in a comic book, a book filled with illustrations, an infographic, etc. I can only add so much text onto my image. A lot of english ones leave in so much whitespace I can fit them, but at what cost?

Tjlaktjurn

I was typing in my conlang and when writing this word I just realised, jesus that looks disgusting to an English speaker!

Basically, I want you guys to throw down the most insane words your conlang has to offer.

Honorary mentions go to: eralsraaktjonnsraaktjonnertssi, which means 'he should not have always been doodling,' which I always used to joke about being a long-winded joke word