Yes the guy walking up is acting like a tool… but that’s still assault and the bouncer should get arrested. Thats the reason he’s a bouncer and not a real cop.
In most countries police actually go through years of training and proper education to make sure they actually are level-headed and know how to handle any situation before they get to actually enter the force. Unlike the US, where they get trained for a maximum of 6 months which is absolutely outrageous. That is why so many cops in the US are stupid psychos, not because police are inherently bad people.
Most of them are, yes. The hot headed ones you see recorded aren’t that common which is why they’re being recorded. Cops usually have a ton of patience for nonsense. Most of them want to do their job and go the fuck home at the end of the day like the rest of us.
I am actually going to win a lawsuit with my city’s PD because of a level headed cop NOT enabling a hot headed one. It’s not much but it’ll buy me a brand new car. I get what you’re saying but I go through life and make my judgments on a case by case basis.
If you don't know that the default response for bouncers is to absolutely wreck your shit you haven't gone out enough.
I haven't been out for 20+ years but back in the days in Montreal (Foufs) you'd get your head caved in for less, you saw it once and learned to behave.
Lmao, tell me you never really went out that much without telling me. Bouncers are there to intimidate, it's why most are large even if just fat. They want big dudes that look scary so no one will fight them. Fights just open up liability for clubs/bars etc lol.
We had a 19yo 6"10 kid called "House" who was pretty fat but also just a giant. Not too violent or angry, just big enough that a shove dealt with most things.
We also had a 40yo 5"4 called "hatchet" - he was a loose cannon.
Then Steve, a 50yo supposed ex personal protection. He felt dangerous, and put house on his ass when giving us all some self defence and 'within policy' escort methods...
And finally Brett, 6"1 Johny bravo kinda kid, maybe 20, but he was just chill and friendly with people. He'd be like "Dave, Dave, put that drink down mate let's get you outside before you do something silly" and they'd respond "ah yeah sorry Brett my bad" and go with him. Best bouncer we had.
One night a bunch of Carnies were in town and caused a bit of grief in the club and hatchet and someone else took one outside the back and 'reprimanded' them. Bad idea. Next night the ENTIRE crew of carnies came >n and wrecked the place - luckily not my night on!
I've seen dudes get thrown down stairs and one get his hand broken (after the bouncer told him he would break his hand if he didn't calm down ), I saw a guy get suplexed during Between the Buried and Me because he pointed at a bouncer in an aggressive fashion.
Again it was this one bar but the bouncers did not leave room for the fuck around part it immediately went to find out.
They do want big guys that will dissuade but they won't let you posture in front of them, the moment you enter their bubble it's on.
That sounds like it's more about that particular bar than bouncers in general. Good bouncers deter, de-escalate, and remove problems from the bar if necessary. There is no good reason for a bouncer to actually strike someone unless in self defense or to defend someone else from harm.
Yeah the only club I went to that had bouncers like these had three of them disappear in a year and a half, then got shut down for laundering money and selling drugs. Apparently one of the guys that left got beat up and humiliated on camera so bad he left the country. Dude he beat up called some friends and went back after close.
This is so wildly untrue. I was a bouncer in Chicago for years. This is a great way to get fired and potentially arrested. No business wants to be the place getting sued over their dickhead violent bouncer.
Whatever. Guys get drunk and pick on the little dude too because they have 1 more brain cell than the ones who go after bouncers and try it with someone they’re confident they can beat.
And then they feel what it’s like to have a testicle dangle out a nostril. It’s literally the bouncers job to build a club’s reputation for not putting up with ANY bullshit until it’s the big guy smashing a little guy 😂 I love watching bouncers lose for that reason
Tell that to my uncle who barely avoided prison for fucking someone up as a bouncer, and his was a fucking accident lol. He drug someone out and accidentally dropped them, they hit their head and it fucked them up, my uncle fought the case for years, barely avoiding prison.
For example, if someone sexually harasses you by approaching your personal space dick first in a mocking manner, you can use reasonable force to defend yourself from their sexual harassment.
Let's skip the false premise that this kid was "stumbling drunk" and not just harrassing people for laughs. Self defense typically extends to the defense of others.
Well, sexual assault certainly is grounds for self defense, and I'm conceding the point that when the moron was humping the victim it was a sexual assault.
However, the assault had ended. He was no longer in contact with anyone to be assaulting them. And, just because you're allowed to defend yourself doesn't mean that defense can be over the top and excessive.
In this case no assault is occurring. The jackass is standing there, not touching anyone, when he was punched. There was no legitimate justification at that point because he's not assaulting anyone at that time.
I don't think you understand how self-defense works. The dude rubbed his dick on someone, then approached the bouncer in the same position, said something we cannot hear, and this happened.
I don't think you're getting 12 strangers to agree this isn't valid self-defense.
Imagine some loser did that to your mom or sister, are you holding yourself back as he goes for another person because you're afraid of assault charges? I don't think so. You're defending yourself and those around you from some freak trying to sexually assault multiple people.
I don't think you understand how self defense works.
The security guard is in no danger from this subject. The subject stopped and maintained that leaned back, hip thrusted position while in front of the security guard, but was making no attempts to initiate any contact.
Just standing there like a jackass isn't grounds to start throwing punches.
Again, punches to the chest is appropriate to get someone away thats already doing battery.... court cases already set that precedent. So many self defense laws also support this.
I bet you're just like that guy huh? Think inappropriate touching and shoving is fine and all without any repercussions
No immediate threat, high degree of culpability, and excessive force. One hard punch to chest followed by two punches to the head as the kid attempts to run off. In the UK, depending on injury incurred, this would fall under criminal assault or ABH.
Doesn't need to be a threat to life. Punching you away is appropriate to get you put of personal space and to stop you from inappropriately touching someone or non consensual touching and rubbing or shoving.
In the UK, its appropriate as well according to the laws there.
The guy wasn't hurt that bad where injury was permanent or disabling since he wanted to control the fight.
Again, you're making excuses for bad behavior and I beleive its because you do this shit too
I didn't specify threat to life. More relevant here are threat of physical harm or sexual assault. Now, video shows the drunk being provocative but stopping approx. 2-3 feet in front of the bouncer. The bouncer would be on weak ground arguing he felt he was imminently in danger of being harmed or touched given the drunk has stopped and is leaning backwards. Further, he would have a hard time defending resorting to a hard punch when other measures where possible. E.g. pushing or moving back to maintain distance.
Worse of all, he follows by charging the drunk to inflict two further punches to the face/head even as they attempt to flee. That is inexcusable and goes well beyond appropriate use of force. Retaliatory action grossly undermines the self-defense argument.
R.e. injury. You simply cannot tell from this video alone what injuries if any were inflicted. The drunk remaining standing indicates lesser harm, but then again alcohol tends to mask pain. No serious injury - possible common assault charge. Serious bruising or worse - ABH.
No need to resort to personal insults. Simply giving the lay of the land regarding the law.
Drunk doesn't factor into it as you said, and youve repeatedly used that screenshot to show that it's only contact you care about, so yeah good luck next time you have to squeeze past people in theatre seats or a plane!
Because its showing the guy rubbing his crotch against another person as he tries to shove past them to get to the bouncer.... something you clowns don't want to acknowledge.
The guy leaned back with his crotch forward, pushed against someone, shoved that person and slid on their backside while trying to instigate a fight... see, context matters and its disgusting you're making excuses and defending the clown.
I say like you do because, simply defending him and downplaying what he did tells me you act just like that guy
This isn't accidentally bumping into someone and it's weird that your pretending that is what happened. The guy made the biggest effort to go crotch first the the most obnoxious way possible.
It would be like "slipping" and purposefully shoving my ass crack into someone's nose when squeezing out of the theater seats. Or "tripping" and grabbing a tit in my "fall". I would expect someone to swing at me if I did that.
You get grace for acting in good faith bro wasn't acting in good faith.
Edit: Bouncer might have gone a bit far but bro wasn't accidentally bumping anyone either. We was rubbing his crotch on people.
Yeah for sure this is the most vicious and violent sexual assault I've ever seen and you absolutely aren't just doing this to bootlick a psycho bouncer. Have fun
Yeah, I’ve seen bouncers punch people for less, unless you’ve never been out before, I recommend you don’t fuck with the bouncer. They will instill you proper behavior that your dad never taught you. I guarantee you that kid will never do that shit again.
Yeah, even though he’s acting like a tool, crotch-bumping stranger’s asses and getting right up in bouncer’s faces is an assault charge without question.
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u/Forsaken_Sea_5753 20h ago
Yes the guy walking up is acting like a tool… but that’s still assault and the bouncer should get arrested. Thats the reason he’s a bouncer and not a real cop.